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Originally posted by B-Good Come on in and give your opinion on the subject. I find that I get so bored of the "usual" trance tracks these days. Now Im find my self looking more and more towards progressive and house sounds. But who to listen to. Please post your recommendations on who to check out and which sets or productions to listen to. Cheers

That's what you get for expecting one narrow sub-genre to last intensive scrutiny forever.

You need to look into prog breaks, and some trancier more melodic and atmospheric prog stuff...like...

Digital Witchcraft - Fingerpaint
Opencloud - Life (Clublife Remix)
Retroid - Forbidden World, Shining Path, Snowdrop
Jay Lumen - Lima, Inner Tour, Perpetual Drifting
Snake Sedrick - Circular, Friction, Only One Way, Fields, Balanced, Effulgence, The Beginning
Seven Senses - Atilla, Southern Cross
Basic Perspective - Small Step On The Other Side, Chroma (Gabriel & Arthur's Eye Level Mix)
Benz & MD - Sound 84 (Subsky Mix), Oneric, Unconditional, Mar del Plata (Dousk Mix), Spiagia
Boom Jinx - Come Play Perfect, Too Free To Follow
Cassino & Laben - Unsound, Unit 5, Leaving Panic Behind
Darioef - Sophie, Near U, Conversation
Brahma & Drew Nichols - Submerged
Drew Nichols - Mar Di Voci (Original/Breaks Mix)
Jordan Daniel - Athena, Sparta, Troy, Plastic Revolution, Porcelain
Off Mind - Eternal Night (Snake Sedrick's Naturally Clear Remix)
Andrew K & Simuck - Mar de Oro (Original/DJ Tarkan & Mert Medeni Remix)
Pinkbox Special - Nice Guys Finish Last, Simple, The French Don't Cry
Derek Howell - Funk It, Western High, Strung Up

Yeah it might not be all the most energetic stuff but it's a nice change of pace if your tired of all the big trance anthems and the really full on stuff yet still enjoy melodic music that is emotive like trance. A bit deeper, more atmospheric, but still melodic and danceable (some more so than others).

^ excellent list

I havent noticed anyone mention Chris Meehan and Kasey Taylor some of the best prog if your in the mood.

Lets hear some more progressive tracks and mixes!

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Originally posted by B-Good ^ excellent list I havent noticed anyone mention Chris Meehan and Kasey Taylor some of the best prog if your in the mood. Lets hear some more progressive tracks and mixes!

Thanks, these are some of the tracks i've really been into since January when I discovered more melodic prog that is more similar to trance. I don't know if it's exactly "progressive trance" since most people refer to this stuff as either just "progressive" or "prog house" but it has a lot of similarities to trance music as far as the way it builds and uses the melodies, so it's a good step from someone into trance for a good number of years. It's different than all that super rhythmic and chugging or percussive prog, which is great but I think it's easier to get into music with more of a melody to it, well for me at least or others who were into melodic trance (and still are but the more progressive variety like a lot of this stuff).

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Originally posted by Spirit5 Thanks, these are some of the tracks i've really been into since January when I discovered more melodic prog that is more similar to trance. I don't know if it's exactly "progressive trance" since most people refer to this stuff as either just "progressive" or "prog house" but it has a lot of similarities to trance music as far as the way it builds and uses the melodies, so it's a good step from someone into trance for a good number of years. It's different than all that super rhythmic and chugging or percussive prog, which is great but I think it's easier to get into music with more of a melody to it, well for me at least or others who were into melodic trance (and still are but the more progressive variety like a lot of this stuff).

Jesus Christ, prog is trance's closest musical relative. If you have to use a process to make the jump from one to another you must be incredibly narrow-minded.

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Originally posted by skip can't find it though. mind linking me to it?

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=348918

if you like it be sure to leave some positive comments.Preach is a Montreal boy and checks out the forums quite a bit

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Jesus Christ, prog is trance's closest musical relative. If you have to use a process to make the jump from one to another you must be incredibly narrow-minded.

Yes but the point i'm making is that some prog i've found is more closer to trance than others which is more housier sounding, and I prefer the trancier sounding stuff, thats all. Doesn't mean i'm narrow minded, I just prefer trance to house....way to be judgemental, jeeze...I don't just listen to trance like stuff...can't I post something on here without one of you guys making blatant judgments about me or what I like??. I liked more progressive trance and house before I got into epic and now i'm back to finding more progressive stuff that is more melodic and trance like...thats all...in the future I may get into some different stuff, but this is the direction i've gone in and I see nothing wrong with that...it's no different than finding an artist you like and then finding another artist that is similar...same idea. Doesn't make you narrow minded, just prefer a certain style or sound, what attracts you to something...i'm attracted to melodies, not just beats...hence why I like melodic music period...not just EDM...

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Originally posted by Spirit5 Yes but the point i'm making is that some prog i've found is more closer to trance than others which is more housier sounding, and I prefer the trancier sounding stuff, thats all. Doesn't mean i'm narrow minded, I just prefer trance to house....way to be judgemental, jeeze...I don't just listen to trance like stuff...can't I post something on here without one of you guys making blatant judgments about me or what I like??. I liked more progressive trance and house before I got into epic and now i'm back to finding more progressive stuff that is more melodic and trance like...thats all...in the future I may get into some different stuff, but this is the direction i've gone in and I see nothing wrong with that...it's no different than finding an artist you like and then finding another artist that is similar...same idea. Doesn't make you narrow minded, just prefer a certain style or sound, what attracts you to something...i'm attracted to melodies, not just beats...

Firstly, stop making such pointlessly large posts, especially as you don't use paragraphs or grammar.

Secondly, you said several things about "getting into" prog and "helping" people who'd only been listening to trance. If you have this preconception that someone needs moving on from one genre to an incredibly similar relative, then you are clearly narrow-minded, as you see the gulf between them as significant.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Firstly, stop making such pointlessly large posts, especially as you don't use paragraphs or grammar. Secondly, you said several things about "getting into" prog and "helping" people who'd only been listening to trance. If you have this preconception that someone needs moving on from one genre to an incredibly similar relative, then you are clearly narrow-minded, as you see the gulf between them as significant.

I use paragraphs and grammar but I add stuff so sorry. I see it as a way to get into other stuff and not something completely different as bridge point. If someone likes trance then the logical step up if they liked that is prog, and then eventually some other stuff. People are attracted to certain things, if they liked the melodies in trance, it's nice to find other music that is melodic that is not trance, as classical is very melodic and it's definitely not trance. Or finding melodic rock music, or prog rock. If you like Pink Floyd, you might also like Dream Theater and then you might even get into Metallica and stuff like Tool. If you like one artist, you might like others who are similar BUT not the same and from there you'll branch out.

People are attracted to certain things and then they can branch out from there. Someone who likes Drum n Bass may also like breaks or even hip hop, or someone likes hip hop might like Drum n Bass or some techno or electro, or even rock music. A lot of people I see like similar bands, similar styles of music, they find connections, you shouldn't assume they are narrow minded. This is true in alot of areas, people don't always just jump into things, it takes time for people to grow into new things. You have a problem, you don't just wind up one day all better like nothing happened, it takes time to work through this problem. This is just like music, it takes time for people to grow and discover new stuff and this might mean first finding stuff similar but not the same, especially because they can identify with it. People are attracted to what they can identify with...thats all. It's called finding your "niche" and people do it all the time.

Edit: I like a lot of styles of EDM and music period (if you'de look at my CD case it's quite diverse), but when finding music on MP3/WAV to mix, I just prefer some sounds more than others...i'm sick of these god damn arguments. I can't post hardly anything on here without one of you guys trying to label me as something..make judgements. Whether it's my posts, what I think, what I like, whatever..

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Originally posted by Spirit5 People are attracted to certain things and then they can branch out from there. Someone who likes Drum n Bass may also like breaks or even hip hop, or someone likes hip hop might like Drum n Bass or some techno or electro, or even rock music. A lot of people I see like similar bands, similar styles of music, they find connections, you shouldn't assume they are narrow minded.

Yes, I'm not denying this. You're distinctly implying it as a significant step that requires certain tracks to ween people over. It's not- and if people need such help they're narrow-minded. Just let them get on with it. I see constant threads and posts on this "jump", as if it's a big development in tastes. It's laughable.

i think you both need to get laid...
stop arguing and just enjoy the music, who cares about the rest
PLUR

www.hybridized.org

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Yes, I'm not denying this. You're distinctly implying it as a significant step that requires certain tracks to ween people over. It's not- and if people need such help they're narrow-minded. Just let them get on with it. I see constant threads and posts on this "jump", as if it's a big development in tastes. It's laughable.

What are they supposed to do, jump into IDM from being into say house or trance? or jump into bluegrass from being in trance? now that's a big jump...even jumping into classical, that isn't a huge step and i'm not acting like it's a huge step, but a step forward, a maturing taste. As people get older, their tastes sometimes mature, whether it's music, movies, books, or whatever. Thats what i'm saying...but they still may find stuff that is similar to what they liked. I'm not going to suggest to someone Luciano Pavarotti or Mozart or Beethoven if they were into Madonna, Britney Spears or Michael Jackson...huge step. People grow, they don't just change tastes out of thin air, if you like one food one day, your not going to magically stop liking it, and you may even find stuff similar that you might like better...same idea...

A guy on here got me into more melodic prog breaks/house/trance and I didn't know that much about them, and then I discovered some of it myself and found it was really similar to the stuff I liked, but different. And I can see myself getting more into some techno in the near future too, because i'm starting to find stuff with that too that I also like. People grow in tastes, they don't just change out of thin air. Ask many DJs, see their evolution...they change (yet some elements still stay the same).

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Originally posted by all-nite-freak i think you both need to get laid... stop arguing and just enjoy the music, who cares about the rest PLUR

I like to do that and I try to do that and then I get guys making judgments and assumptions about me on here like i'm "narrow minded" because I prefer something more than others or my tastes aren't super "matured" yet...my posts would be A LOT shorter if I knew there weren't people on here that make these judgments rather than just asking me to clarify...hence why they are often so long...

I've said and i'll say it again, I like melodic stuff period and I know there are plenty of people who do, esp those who like or liked trance. I don't see anything wrong with this. This doesn't make me or anyone narrow minded. Melodic music does not equal narrow minded. There's people on here who prefer more heavier beat based stuff too, some like both (and I do but it's not what I look for all the time).

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Originally posted by Spirit5 What are they supposed to do, jump into IDM from being into say house or trance? or jump into bluegrass from being in trance? now that's a big jump...even jumping into classical, that isn't a huge step and i'm not acting like it's a huge step, but a step forward, a maturing taste.

I can see what you wrote, I can see what your words imply. It's the same party line: treating the jump as though it is significant. An open-minded person should just try prog and make their own opinion. I listened to progressive house and deeper trance at the same time I discovered melodic and anthemic trance. I've never shouted about it. I also listened to techno, hard-house and anything else I had been exposed to. You're acting like it's perfectly eclectic to listen to one sector of one genre of dance music and then have to ask about moving on. People shouldn't need "help".

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I can see what you wrote, I can see what your words imply. It's the same party line: treating the jump as though it is significant. An open-minded person should just try prog and make their own opinion. I listened to progressive house and deeper trance at the same time I discovered melodic and anthemic trance. I've never shouted about it. I also listened to techno, hard-house and anything else I had been exposed to. You're acting like it's perfectly eclectic to listen to one sector of one genre of dance music and then have to ask about moving on. People shouldn't need "help".

I'm not trying to help, i'm trying to share....

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Originally posted by Spirit5 I'm not trying to help, i'm trying to share....

I've no beef with recommending tracks- it's propogating this narrow-minded conception that irritates me. And don't deny it, because I've already clearly shown where you did.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I've no beef with recommending tracks- it's propogating this narrow-minded conception that irritates me. And don't deny it, because I've already clearly shown where you did.

Why can't I share with other's about my feelings about this music? Why do you and guys like DJ Intrique have such resentment for people who have any type of feeling when it comes to the music they like? I don't understand this, I thought this was a forum where you could share with others what you like and why you like it and your feelings about this or that piece or style of music. I'm not propagating this narrow minded conception, merely stating that branching off into other forms of music is sometimes the best thing and finding artists similar (but not the same style) is a way to do it. I like Ulrich Schnauss, he is similar (but not the same) as a lot of artists i've liked over the years, whether its EDM, or more traditional electronic or rock music. And now i've discovered stuff similar to him but even more different, like Boards Of Canada and Thievery Corporation (quite different from each other but still downtempo music).

A guy who was a music producer and musician that I worked with for a while, he recommended me plenty of stuff that were similar to some bands I was discovering. Same idea...tell someone you like something, and then give them recommendations of stuff they might like that might be similar (but not the same). I'm actually acting like it's not a huge step, rather just a step, and that's all. That step could lead to other things as well.

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Originally posted by Spirit5 Why can't I share with other's about my feelings about this music? Why do you and guys like DJ Intrique have such resentment for people who have any type of feeling when it comes to the music they like? I don't understand this, I thought this was a forum where you could share with others what you like and why you like it and your feelings about this or that piece or style of music. I'm not propagating this narrow minded conception, merely stating that branching off into other forms of music is sometimes the best thing and finding artists similar is a way to do it.

Are you not following me or something?

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Are you not following me or something?

I'm trying to but i'm a little lost at what your trying to get at exactly with this. Is it the way I feel about the music or what??

I'm done with this debate, lets please end it. I have to go and I am sick and tired of arguing with you people on here....I never meant to get into any argument by what I said in the first place.

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Originally posted by Spirit5 I'm trying to but i'm a little lost at what your trying to get at exactly with this. Is it the way I feel about the music or what??

No, it's about how you're treating the process of exploring other styles. The move from trance to prog is so small it should barely be a move, and yet there are countless threads on this subject. Countless posts detailing how best to move onto another genre. There shouldn't be, and that there are is propogating a mindset that staying with one sound is good and normal and moving onto a new genre is a Big Thing. It's discouraging people from just buying shit and trying new music out- because they think that it's difficult to move to a new sound.

lmao at you 2...seriously you guys need to get a woman or a room together.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J No, it's about how you're treating the process of exploring other styles. The move from trance to prog is so small it should barely be a move, and yet there are countless threads on this subject. Countless posts detailing how best to move onto another genre. There shouldn't be, and that there are is propogating a mindset that staying with one sound is good and normal and moving onto a new genre is a Big Thing. It's discouraging people from just buying shit and trying new music out- because they think that it's difficult to move to a new sound.

Nope just listen to what I am saying. One sound can lead to another sound and lead to another sound, it's a cycle, a chain..whatever you want to consider it. It's what i've experienced by listening to countless artists and see on here people who give suggestions who want similar stuff and then they find it and what might be similar could lead to something different (but not completely different). It's an evolution...thats all i'm saying. Sorry I don't read every thread so I don't know about all of these other people talking about this...

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Originally posted by all-nite-freak lmao at you 2...seriously you guys need to get a woman or a room together.

Why post on the Internet man? Get laid. Why talk about shit? Get yourself laid. Why go to work and earn money? Get fucking laid.

Fuck off.

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Originally posted by Spirit5 Nope just listen to what I am saying. One sound can lead to another sound and lead to another sound, it's a cycle, a chain..whatever you want to consider it. It's what i've experienced by listening to countless artists and see on here people who give suggestions who want similar stuff and then they find it and what might be similar could lead to something different (but not completely different). It's an evolution...thats all i'm saying. Sorry I don't read every thread so I don't know about all of these other people talking about this...

Look, you aren't getting it. Read what I've said again, carefully.

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