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you really cant set deadlines because you cant force yourself to write just let it come to you.

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Originally posted by clubkidnycnyc you really cant set deadlines because you cant force yourself to write just let it come to you.

Apart from the natural creativity which sometimes wont come with deadlines i think folks want to help themselves to learn more. Am i right? Well thats what I would like anyway.

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Originally posted by Synchronicity This is just an idea I had to try and motivate me to finish more tracks. If anyone else wants to join me that's fine, if they don't - that's fine

I was going to try it, because I have never finished anything but.. yesterday I was in my sequencer messing with a synth and made a cheesy melody which normally I would just delete, but for some reason just said fuck it and played around with it, and now it's a finished track. I worked on it for only around 7 hours total, although its a bit crap and sounds a lot more like something from 1997 than a modern tune but I'm glad I did it.
So I think just having fun and not caring so much about how good it is is probably the best way to get tracks finished, you might not need a deadline. Always trying to reach perfection but never getting anything done is pointless and I should've realised this a long time ago

This is another one of those threads that I think is great...I think it's an important thread just like the one earlier about creativity...or lack thereof.

My 2 cents: I personally work better under deadlines. I found this out when having projects while at school (just graduated, yay!). And to be honest, the ratio of works completed vs. works barely touched is entirely lopsided towards getting works completed when there is a deadline.

Now, I have read this thread over a couple times...it's clear it doesn't work for everyone. And why should it? Everyone has different ways of thinking. We're all separate. So, I think this definitely wouldn't work for everyone. I personally don't like a deadline to create something, but to come up with the basics...for me that means a piano sketch, maybe some drum parts, etc...once I get those, a deadline needs to be set for me to get substantial work done. This is because, as I said in the other thread a while ago...I think that with a deadline, you're forced to make decisions whereas without one, you can stew on them forever. i.e. tweaking, EQing, and re-effecting until your eyes bleed or ears blow.

With that said, I would like to contribute and ask if I can join in?? I posted the piano sketch to a track I REALLY want to do here on this forum, and I have it all mapped out in my mind...but without any deadline? Shit that's where it'll probably stay.

When I say I have it mapped out, I could easilly dance to it already, hearing the 303 parts, the atmospheric texture pads, the wicked crazy fat supersaw phased behidn the piano...so, for me it's not a case of creation. It's simply a case of getting un-lazy'd. :P

So, may I count myself in? What's the deadline?

Centra Spike & Arudius you both have some good points. Deadlines dont work for everyone. But I also agree with Arudius once you have the parts ready a deadline can be set. I think Mr Mystery said the same. Anyway I reckon we're all understading each other, I look forward to what everyone has to share.

It's strange, but me personally, I find that all my best work has come from the first two hours of a new song... that surge of creativity and energy that just seems to flow out, half of it from the idea in my head, and half of it evolving randomly into where-ever it leads me and may go.

This usually tells me if all the elements will go where I want them to, or if they'll go to the trash heap or the one month "unfinished still" pile.

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Originally posted by Arudius So, may I count myself in? What's the deadline?

I think everybody`s welcome,

1st of July

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Making music isn't a deadline job. It will only make you do uninspired and samey sounding tracks because you leave yourself no room for natural creativity. The ideas come if they come and if they don't they don't. Forcing them never brings out anything good.

Couldnt have said it better myself.
I am currently working on a B-side for my L.E.E.A release but now that I know that I have pressure on me, I can't make anything music comes naturally

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Originally posted by >>FK Couldnt have said it better myself. I am currently working on a B-side for my L.E.E.A release but now that I know that I have pressure on me, I can't make anything music comes naturally

ahhh






sometimes by accident

Exactly!!!

"L.E.E.A" for example was made by just sitting and fooling around with a bassline which later turned into a really potential club track so I sat 24/7 with it until it was done (I always do that, I find that better because I dont think breaks from a track results in anything good, at least not for me, but for many others it does ) was done two days later and got signed the same week

life is strange.

few months ago I started on a remix one day before the deadline. and got it finished and signed as well

Deadlines can be a lot of fun. They make me push my limits in terms of speed in production which is kind of fun

YYYYaaaaasssss!!!!!

I now have an HND in Media Technology!

I haven't hit a note on a keyboard for weeks, so I'm right up for this now.

Congrats dude, now for a reward. Getting some tunes done hehe.

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Originally posted by music2dance2 Congrats dude, now for a reward. Getting some tunes done hehe.

Thanks a lot mate

I'm just bumping this to remind anyone that's taking part we're still on for July 1st.

I'm starting to build up some decent elements. I'm quite happy with my main melody, I came up with a pretty complex rhythm for it that's quite hard to keep under control!

I think I might struggle a bit at the mixdown, because that's the part I've always kinda avoided. Fuck it though

Make a different deadline for the different parts of the process, ie:

finding the right samples
melodies
mixing it all togheter
buildup
etc.

Then if you miss a deadline you can't, under any circumstances, work on that part of the process on the track. That way you penalyse yourself, and you learn something important about deadlining, it sucks... ;P

Just a tip from my end of the table.

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Originally posted by Synchronicity I'm just bumping this to remind anyone that's taking part we're still on for July 1st. I'm starting to build up some decent elements. I'm quite happy with my main melody, I came up with a pretty complex rhythm for it that's quite hard to keep under control! I think I might struggle a bit at the mixdown, because that's the part I've always kinda avoided. Fuck it though

I done some but not near enough due to probs taking up my time elsewhere. That said I half started the track a while ago so ill gonna clean it up somewhat even though it wont be a finished product I'll appreciated the feedback. Hmm Im failing the deadline already lol. Im looking forward to hearing everyones work though, I hope this idea keeps going for a few months at least

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Originally posted by music2dance2 I done some but not near enough due to probs taking up my time elsewhere. That said I half started the track a while ago so ill gonna clean it up somewhat even though it wont be a finished product I'll appreciated the feedback. Hmm Im failing the deadline already lol. Im looking forward to hearing everyones work though, I hope this idea keeps going for a few months at least

Well I am definately going to stick to it because I have found loads of bad habits I fall into. 'Viscous Circles' I guess you could call them. I won't Iron them out this time round but one of the most important things I've learnt is to take regular breaks to refresh my head and look at all the angles

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Originally posted by Synchronicity Well I am definately going to stick to it because I have found loads of bad habits I fall into. 'Viscous Circles' I guess you could call them. I won't Iron them out this time round but one of the most important things I've learnt is to take regular breaks to refresh my head and look at all the angles

Very true its easy to keep at just to get it right then totally lose track of what your doing, ive doen that many times. I'm still planning on getting something almost finished though, as you say in time iron out all those bad habits. How long have you been producing?

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Originally posted by music2dance2 Very true its easy to keep at just to get it right then totally lose track of what your doing, ive doen that many times. I'm still planning on getting something almost finished though, as you say in time iron out all those bad habits. How long have you been producing?

On and off for a few years now. I started with an MC-303, but that was just messing around when I got wasted. Then I got a Yamaha Groovebox, which was crap. Then I started practising guitar; I'm quite good but my vocal chords are wrecked from smoking etc. so I don't really play it anymore. It's quite good for coming up with chord progressions though. Then I got a PC two years ago, and eventually a midi controller, Reason, Cubase and just recently a Waldorf Pulse. Next in line's a Roland SH-201.

So when I think about it, I've only been serious about it for a year or two. I'm really happy with my setup now, and I've been learning a lot recently so I see good things happening over the next couple of years

How 'bout you?

Well, it's the 1st July.

Here's my track. http://www.savefile.com/files/5987787

A few people have heard it and the general vibe is good riffs/melody but crap bass/drums!

Needs more work but I'm sick of hearing it and I'm moving on.

Anyone else finish their tracks?

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