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Originally posted by AwakenedAddict FFS, read the article before you post. The issue has nothing to do with getting drunk on the job. As stated in the article, they banned all alcohol at this NLFD FD because they openly sold booze to the public. This has nothing to do with drinking on the job, as the article states "The other fire departments, they do have alcohol .... The alcohol is there for personal use for the firemen and, as far as I'm concerned, we should be allowed to do the same, said Stuckless." So.. in summary (kinda sad to have to summarize 1 minute worth of reading) the fire department sold booze to the public despite repeated orders to stop such activity. They did not comply. Now there is no booze allowed at all. This is not a debate about whether or not there should be booze allowed in fire departments, rather it's just a story of a fire department that tried to act like a bar, and got caught and reprimanded.

and so what? the fact that they were selling to the public at their work place still stands

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Originally posted by AwakenedAddict FFS, read the article before you post. The issue has nothing to do with getting drunk on the job. As stated in the article, they banned all alcohol at this NLFD FD because they openly sold booze to the public. This has nothing to do with drinking on the job, as the article states "The other fire departments, they do have alcohol .... The alcohol is there for personal use for the firemen and, as far as I'm concerned, we should be allowed to do the same, said Stuckless."

O RLY?

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Originally posted by FunkyGroove and so what? the fact that they were selling to the public at their work place still stands

Go back and read the article (third time now?). Yes, they were. Now they are not. What is your point?

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur O RLY?

Are you insinuating that because people are allowed to possess alcohol at their workplace, they are constantly drunk?

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Originally posted by AwakenedAddict Go back and read the article (third time now?). Yes, they were. Now they are not. What is your point?

ffs, my point was to Jay, who was arguing that this ban is wrong

geez.

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Originally posted by AwakenedAddict Are you insinuating that because people are allowed to possess alcohol at their workplace, they are constantly drunk?

Lol, I hate to crack (very bad) jokes in a serious thread ... but it is Newfoundland .......

Here's how I see it:

Consumption of liquor in the workplace is often prohibited. The fact that this is an essential public service only makes this more important. The Fire Hall being doubled as a bar should have NEVER occured to begin with, Whoever thought that up should be ashamed.

Big city, small town, it does not and should not matter. It's still a question of responsibility. By endorsing consumption of those substances in a workplace, to me that's grossly inappropriate and very unsafe. Anything that impedes or affects their ability to do their job effectively should be prohibited. This isn't a bunch of accountants getting shitfaced, these are FIREMEN.

Go ahead, let them walk off the job. I sure as hell would not want people with such immaturity and poor judgement protecting my property or family if a fire broke out.

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Originally posted by AwakenedAddict Are you insinuating that because people are allowed to possess alcohol at their workplace, they are constantly drunk?

Yes I am. Not constantly, but "personal use" means drinking. I don't know what other uses for drinkable alcohol there are.

I want to book a flight to NF and light fire to one of the fire fighter's houses.... we'll see how quickly they end their protest.

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard I want to book a flight to NF and light fire to one of the fire fighter's houses.... we'll see how quickly they end their protest.

lol i'll bring the matches

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Originally posted by FunkyGroove ffs, my point was to Jay, who was arguing that this ban is wrong geez.

lol, sorry (you referenced my post, so I assumed your comments were referring to my post).

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur Yes I am. Not constantly, but "personal use" means drinking.

You get off work, you have a drink. Fire fighters do not go to work drunk. Until you can PROVE otherwise, don't make unwarranted assumptions about other people.

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur I don't know what other uses for drinkable alcohol there are.

look ma! I'm being a smartass!

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur Why are firefighters so concerned with being able to drink on the job?

LOL, my thoughts exactly.

While I'm guessing they weren't dumb enough to actually drink on the job, I think it's *ridiculous* that a Fire Hall doubled as a community bar

Firefighters walking off the job is *so* responsible to their community too. I suppose the follow up story will be how someone died in a fire or experienced a huge property loss becuase these jackasses weren't at work?

I dunno Jay...is that really a productive way of standing up for your "rights"?

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Originally posted by AwakenedAddict You get off work, you have a drink. Fire fighters do not go to work drunk. Until you can PROVE otherwise, don't make unwarranted assumptions about other people.

I'm gonna go back to my drinking under the age of 19 example. So when a 17 year old walks into a liquor store, should he be able to buy alcohol since they can't PROVE he's gonna go and drink it? He could be buying it for his uncle, after all. Smartass.

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Originally posted by MarkT I suppose the follow up story will be how someone died in a fire or experienced a huge property loss becuase these jackasses weren't at work?

read the last sentence of the article. "firefighters will still respond to emergency calls"

Meanwhile in the news....

Tradgedy in Eastern Canada

Gander Newfoundland (Canadian Press) Canada's Worst Air Disaster occoured earlier today when a Cesna 152 a small 2 seater plane, crashed into a cemetery early this morning in central Newfoundland.

Newfoundland Search & Rescue have recovered 142 bodies so far, and expect the number to climb as digging continues into the evening.

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Originally posted by Abercrombie Meanwhile in the news.... Tradgedy in Eastern Canada Gander Newfoundland (Canadian Press) Canada's Worst Air Disaster occoured earlier today when a Cesna 152 a small 2 seater plane, crashed into a cemetery early this morning in central Newfoundland. Newfoundland Search & Rescue have recovered 142 bodies so far, and expect the number to climb as digging continues into the evening.

So old, and yet I laugh every single time.

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur I'm gonna go back to my drinking under the age of 19 example. So when a 17 year old walks into a liquor store, should he be able to buy alcohol since they can't PROVE he's gonna go and drink it? He could be buying it for his uncle, after all. Smartass.

I was merely saying that you were slanting every firefigher as a drunk bastard who can't help but drink on the job.

You example is pretty off-target as well. Someone who is 17 is still a minor, this means that they are not their own legal guardian and are not totally responsible for their actions in all circumstances. On the other hand, firefighters are not minors. They must take responsibilty for their actions. For instance, if they show up to work drunk, they get fired.

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Originally posted by Jer. So old, and yet I laugh every single time.

You just can't have a Newfie thread without a Newfie joke, and I could not believe it took 3 pages to finally put one here.

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Originally posted by AwakenedAddict read the last sentence of the article. "firefighters will still respond to emergency calls"

then how is their walking off the job of any real consequence?

lol

oooooooh, big protest! In a town of 700, I don't think there a whole lot of community work as there would be here (?)

meh...this is a non-story.

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However, Mayor Robert Elliott says past problems at the hall prompted the town council to take a firm position. "The fire department has been told [on] many, many occasions, you can't sell beer. On many occasions they've never listened," Elliott said. "This is the only solution we saw. Take it out, [and] then you can't sell what's not there."

curious to know about the "past problems" before I get all sympathetic for what appears to be a silly situation anyway...a fire hall doubling as a bar...um, ok?

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Originally posted by MarkT then how is their walking off the job of any real consequence?

Wow, sometimes people just make me laugh. You still haven't read the whole article, have you?

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Originally posted by Abercrombie You just can't have a Newfie thread without a Newfie joke, and I could not believe it took 3 pages to finally put one here.

Rofls, thanks for peeking in! Here's another:

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A gas station in Halifax was trying to increase it's sales. So the owner put up a sign saying "Free Sex With Fill-Up." Soon a Newfie pulls in, fills his tank, and then asks for his free sex. The gas attendent tells him pick to a number from 1 to 10 if he guesses correctly, he will get his free sex. The Newfie says, "8, b'y" The gas attendent says, "You were close, sir, but the number was 7. Sorry, no sex this time." A week later, the same Newfie, along with his buddy, pulls in for a fill up. Again he asks for his free sex and again the gas attendent gives him the same story and asks him to guess the correct number. The Newfie says, "4, b'y" The gas attendent says, "Sorry,it was 3. You were close, but no free sex this time." As they were driving away, the Newfie says to his buddy, "I think that game is rigged and he doesn't really give away free sex." The buddy replies,"No, b'y, it ain't rigged. My wife won twice last week."

Newfie jokes galore!

http://www.offdarock.com/newfiejokes.asp

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Originally posted by AwakenedAddict Wow, sometimes people just make me laugh. You still haven't read the whole article, have you?

Actually, it's pretty laughable that you are taking these posts so seriously.

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Originally posted by MarkT I dunno Jay...is that really a productive way of standing up for your "rights"?

yeah all this over ALCOHOL?
hmmm.

[I'm assuming I'm going to get slandered, because for "it's all about standing up for your rights"]

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Originally posted by AwakenedAddict Wow, sometimes people just make me laugh. You still haven't read the whole article, have you?

well thanks to you i did, twice

and i'm still sticking to my points

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