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dres is gettin all worked up

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Originally posted by D-res architecture and urban planning is kind of a hobby/passion of mine so this is the type of thread i can really contribute to.

i happen to work in a company that does urban planning.

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Originally posted by igottaknow dres is gettin all worked up

nah i'm chill. i like talkin about this stuff


/geek

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Originally posted by superglo i happen to work in a company that does urban planning.

well played. maybe in a few years i will too. i'll have to see where college leads me.

what company you work for/where is your company located?

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Originally posted by Nou Suburban sprawl works when its planned right. As long as their are large green bufferzones between settlments and public transportation and road systems are worked out well it can be a choice residential plan for SOME cities, not all. Innercity residential growth is becoming more attractive as personal transportation becomes more expensive. Also there is more single, or couples with no children now (either empty nest or none to begin with) and they are shifting to the city). Remember, the baby boomers children for the most part are now in the 15 year old in the low end to 25 year in the high end range, so a lot of parents are going to be changing their living situations based on their children leaving home.

thats very true. i clearly forgot to be specific. i dont hate sprawl, i hate unplanned sprawl. when someone wants to move in and the city planners are like... ok lets just throw a road down and build a house then i hope they burn in hell.

if you arrange neighborhoods intelligently, provide good mass transit options and access to city utilities, you're okay in my book

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Originally posted by Nou I have a huge urge to play Sim City 4 now hahaha...

fuck yeah!

too bad i left the play disc at my friends apartment again

When I finally settle down I do want a big plot of land... but it will not be in these suburbs! I want somewhere isolated... I guess you could call it in a rural area.

Another good thing about Milwaukee is the Mandell Group. I love their condos/apartments. They are very modern designs and I love how they take old buildings and warehouses and transform them into great residences. Their tower by the lake, designed by Skidmore Owings & Merrill is amazing and their new $67million 6 building project looks great. I wish we had someone of their caliber who does modern architecture here.

...::: Disclaimer - If anything I say below doesnt make sense, don't blame me, blame THC :::...

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Originally posted by CONNERMAN2000 I see...so what you are saying is that suburbs should NOT become more than a bedroom community?

not at all

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Is it really that vital to not detract from a metropolitan area's urban core? To me, I think having suburbs become more than bedroom communities would only benefit the entire metropolis as a whole. Think of LA. Los Angeles itself is practically nothing when you look at the whole scheme of things when you see LA. Its all Hollywood (a suburb), Long Beach (a suburb), and along with all the other coastal communities (all suburbs). Los Angeles pretty much just has a downtown skyline, and I guess we'll thrown in Lakers stadium, and thats pretty much it. What im getting at is, wouldnt improving the suburbs improve the city core? Although many consider this to be trivial bullshit, im pretty fuckin interested to hear what you have to say.

is it vital to not detract? yes and no

I'm by no means saying that suburbs developing and becoming more than bedroom communities is a cardinal sin, but it can be dangerous if done incorrectly.

Most suburbs I know have their own downtowns. At one point they were cities too and as milwaukee grew, those towns would fill in. they're all their each little city. I think cool little downtowns with corner shops and a some retail is fine. They are their own self-economized (does that word work? cities. I have no problem with malls either. They shouldnt be located downtown in my opinion anyway. Many downtowns dont have enough street-level retail to compete with a mall. A malls duty, like a casino (also bad downtown) are to keep people indoors and spending money. this starves the other street retail that cant provide the sheltered, easy paced environment that a mall can. In the case of Chicago, which has multiple malls and indoor shopping centers, it has the mag mile and many other great retail options and has MUCH higher pedestrian activity than most cities. Due to the presence of so many people, malls are fine in downtowns.

In the case of LA, yes it does thrive from its suburbs. Christ, LA,s metro has almost 20 million people in it and it continues to spread. People move there for various reasons, but the suburbs such as hollywood creat more appeal.

I think improving suburbs do improve the cities. look at any major mid-size or large-sized cities in the US. Not ONE is self-sufficient. You will never find a city over 150,000 in the US without a suburb. Americans are obsessed with suburban living. Withouth the suburbs, the cities would not survive at their current magnitude. New York has close to 22,000,000 people in its metro area. These are huge cities and they got that way because of the suburbs.

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O and do you think Schaumburg has really detracted from Chicago? Malls arent really a new thing, and thats pretty much all Schaumburg has (The Streets of Woodfield, im sure you know it). Where I live (Naperville), we have the Fox Valley Mall, which serves East Aurora, West Naperville, Winfield, Warrenville, and a few other suburbs. Does having it mean Naperville is detracting from Chicago?

I dont think Schaumburg is detracting from Chicago in a way that should cause concern. As I said, Chicago is a HUGE city. there are over 3 million people in the city and nearly 12 in the MSA. Chicago is a world city, a world commerce center and has its name everywhere that matters.Schaumburg detracts but not at any noticable rate. go to downtown chicago any night and i gaurantee the traffic is heavy and there'll be people everywhere. Scaumburg is a terribly planned and terribly overdone suburb. Its nothing but big box retailers and shitty sprawl. To most people that doesnt matter shit but I guess to a few people it does.

Does Schaumburg even have sidewalks?

not that i've seen.


And no naperville isnt detracting noticably either. But my cousin and his wife and their son live there and they enjoy it.

how close are you to o'hare btw? is the airnoise shitty or dont you notice it much? with over 75,000,000 passengers a year I'd think it would be unbearable.

Re: Suburbia

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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_ Is it as stale and dull as it's often made out to be? Rich kid lifestyle in LA, what's it like?! 2.4 kids, dad an oil tycoon, mom a housewife, gated communities etc.

i obviously grew up in the wrong suburbs then. parents work 16 hour days. barely above the poverty level. gang-infestation. crime.

+Edit+

i guess that's why i get so pissed off at those MTV shows - because it's not what i consider "real life". only cause of my own experience. which i guess is a bad bias to have - but it just gets on my nerves.

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Originally posted by BadBadNeil Another good thing about Milwaukee is the Mandell Group. I love their condos/apartments. They are very modern designs and I love how they take old buildings and warehouses and transform them into great residences. Their tower by the lake, designed by Skidmore Owings & Merrill is amazing and their new $67million 6 building project looks great. I wish we had someone of their caliber who does modern architecture here.

Mandell Group certainly is a vital resource in milwaukees architecture development.

Their work in the third ward and on the redeveloped commerce street is amazing. have you seen pictures of commerce street makeover?

The tower by the lake is University Club Tower. its definitely a great building and i cant wait for its completion in a couple months. its already topped out and they're putting the side panels up completing the facade. I think they're at the 31st floor now. only a few more floors to go. I know a lot of the condos in the tower have already been sold. I believe only 12 remain. If i had a mil and a half i'd be there.

as for the new development, I believe you're refering to The North End. I REALLY hope the project comes to fruition. it would be an amazing addition to that corner of downtown.


EDIT: i have to ask since its rare to find someone with similar knowledge about this sort of thing, is this also an interest/job of yours? are you familiar with the forums at www.skyscrapercity.com ?

check it out if you dont know it

for right now, i'd rather live in the city... the suburbs seem too boring to me. plus i like the city where there are plenty of buildings (less insects, more things to do, etc)

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Originally posted by D-res Mandell Group certainly is a vital resource in milwaukees architecture development. Their work in the third ward and on the redeveloped commerce street is amazing. have you seen pictures of commerce street makeover? The tower by the lake is University Club Tower. its definitely a great building and i cant wait for its completion in a couple months. its already topped out and they're putting the side panels up completing the facade. I think they're at the 31st floor now. only a few more floors to go. I know a lot of the condos in the tower have already been sold. I believe only 12 remain. If i had a mil and a half i'd be there. as for the new development, I believe you're refering to The North End. I REALLY hope the project comes to fruition. it would be an amazing addition to that corner of downtown. EDIT: i have to ask since its rare to find someone with similar knowledge about this sort of thing, is this also an interest/job of yours? are you familiar with the forums at www.skyscrapercity.com ? check it out if you dont know it

Great resource, didn't know about it. Bookmarked.

I almost went for architecture when I got out of high school, have always been interested in buildings and architecture. I am a designer now but still appreciate good architecture, renovations, etc. I think I'd like to eventually get into buying some old brick warehouses, I saw some that I liked in the downtown area of Milwaukee near the river and turn them into housing. I am assuming you must be in the field yourself?

The University Club Tower is amazing. The floor plans I was just looking at the other day as I sit and dream of finding $2mil to plunk down on a condo.

I haven't seen the commerce st. makeover I don't believe, any pics online?

When I was with my girl we were actually at one point gonna look at some of the condo units by the river but most were sold out already.

Serbia > Suburbia.

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Originally posted by BadBadNeil Great resource, didn't know about it. Bookmarked. I almost went for architecture when I got out of high school, have always been interested in buildings and architecture. I am a designer now but still appreciate good architecture, renovations, etc. I think I'd like to eventually get into buying some old brick warehouses, I saw some that I liked in the downtown area of Milwaukee near the river and turn them into housing. I am assuming you must be in the field yourself? The University Club Tower is amazing. The floor plans I was just looking at the other day as I sit and dream of finding $2mil to plunk down on a condo. I haven't seen the commerce st. makeover I don't believe, any pics online? When I was with my girl we were actually at one point gonna look at some of the condo units by the river but most were sold out already.

I'm not in the field yet. I'm actually in college for Film, which sucks so hopefully i can get my grades up enough to get into the Architecture school, which, to say the least, is VERY selective.

as far as the commerce street makeover, known as the beerline neighborhood has its own site at http://www.thebeerline.com/

theres a couple picture threads on skyscrapercity midwest section but they dont have a search function that i know about so its somewhat hard to find.

I think we looked at the "River Homes" ones in the Beerline. I like the private 2 car garage too. I really am curious to see the Park Terrace. They are very limited so I would expect them to be sold out quick. In fact now that I check it, about half are sold out already. They aren't super pricey at the upper 200's.

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Originally posted by BadBadNeil I think we looked at the "River Homes" ones in the Beerline. I like the private 2 car garage too. I really am curious to see the Park Terrace. They are very limited so I would expect them to be sold out quick. In fact now that I check it, about half are sold out already. They aren't super pricey at the upper 200's.

definitely. pretty much every condo i've seen thats been built in this city recently have been just short of amazing. they're all so spacious and the interiors were done over real sleek n shit. i dont exactly have 289 Gs layin around but for the quality of the condo, those are hella reasonable prices.

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Originally posted by D-res ...::: Disclaimer - If anything I say below doesnt make sense, don't blame me, blame THC :::... And no naperville isnt detracting noticably either. But my cousin and his wife and their son live there and they enjoy it. how close are you to o'hare btw? is the airnoise shitty or dont you notice it much? with over 75,000,000 passengers a year I'd think it would be unbearable.

Naperville is actually a pretty good distance from O'hare. When I say that, I dont mean its far per se, but you wouldnt say were close either. You could make it there in 15 minutes without traffic. Of course thats hardly the case, so it usually takes 30-1 hr. So, saying that, airnoise isnt bad at all. Its there, but you hardly notice it.

so d-res, which side of town of milwaukee is the casino located?

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue so d-res, which side of town of milwaukee is the casino located?

Its in the menominee valley southwest of downtown


EDIT: wanna go gamblin?

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Originally posted by D-res Its in the menominee valley southwest of downtown EDIT: wanna go gamblin?

i'll be honest dude, ever since i've been unemployed i've been at potawatomie almost every weekend

i'll have to hit you up next time i'm up there, pm me your cellie or something. it's only like, an hour drive from janesville. kinda thinkin about movin around that area too. not to gamble though. or so i tell myself.

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue i'll be honest dude, ever since i've been unemployed i've been at potawatomie almost every weekend i'll have to hit you up next time i'm up there, pm me your cellie or something. it's only like, an hour drive from janesville. kinda thinkin about movin around that area too. not to gamble though. or so i tell myself.

lol

wish i could dude but i'm 2 months shy of ninefuckinteen.

where you thinkin of moving? somewhere like the third or fifth ward area?

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Originally posted by D-res lol wish i could dude but i'm 2 months shy of ninefuckinteen. where you thinkin of moving? somewhere like the third or fifth ward area?

lol, you got a while to go buddy i guess you could always play bingo or something.

as for moving, i'm not sure. i'm just picking out prospective cities i might want to move to. to be honest i have no idea what i'm doing atm. probably planning on transferring to uw there in the spring. suggestions?

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue lol, you got a while to go buddy i guess you could always play bingo or something. as for moving, i'm not sure. i'm just picking out prospective cities i might want to move to. to be honest i have no idea what i'm doing atm. probably planning on transferring to uw there in the spring. suggestions?

what are you lookin at majoring in or whatever? i can give you plenty of suggestions. just lemme know what kinda price range you're in and what you're lookin for.

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Originally posted by D-res what are you lookin at majoring in or whatever? i can give you plenty of suggestions. just lemme know what kinda price range you're in and what you're lookin for.

ehhhh.. urrr.. ummmm... fuckin... i gotta get back to you on that. the thing is, i'm re-taking a couple classes i messed up down here during the fall and then transferring in the spring, but i'm still undecided. that's something i gotta contend with myself, i think. price doesn't really matter that much, i'd like to say no more than $500-600 a month for apartment rental, but then again i don't know what the cost of living is up there. why am i way off or what

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue ehhhh.. urrr.. ummmm... fuckin... i gotta get back to you on that. the thing is, i'm re-taking a couple classes i messed up down here during the fall and then transferring in the spring, but i'm still undecided. that's something i gotta contend with myself, i think. price doesn't really matter that much, i'd like to say no more than $500-600 a month for apartment rental, but then again i don't know what the cost of living is up there. why am i way off or what

idk about prices in the third or fifth ward. thats a classy area just south of downtown. lotta art galleries and small little upscale retail shops and coffee shops and restaurants sorrounded by condos and apartments.

for that price you prolly wouldnt have a problem getting a place on the east side. if you can find roomates it helps. im in a house, basement, first, second, attic with 5 people. we get a $10 discount cause my buddy and me are sharing the attic(tight fuckin attic tho) and we pay 240 a month. the house is 1250 which is a fuckin steal for what we got. otherwise theres apartments all over the place full of students. my place last year was 560 but it was in Shorewood, the suburb just north of campus. it sucked tho. thats overpriced for what i got plus the parking situation in shorewood blows. if you're bringing a car, avoid suburbs at all cost. parking is tough and i mean TOUGH but you manage. it might take you a couple minutes and a 2 block walk but you usually will find a good spot. most streets have time limits tho but you can work a deal through the city to get a permit so you can park there whenever and however long you want. dono if you'll fit the criteria tho. theres usually streets with no time limits within a couple blocks. a year long overnight parking permit costs 36 bucks. a quarter permit is 12. if you park overnight without a permit, you either call your car in or you'll definitely have a ticket. 15 bucks but annoying. shorewood parking is 40 for a month and you have to park in designated lots. there no overnight parking on any street ever. i guess just search shorewest realtors site or ogden realtors site.

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