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bush has an iq of 90

i seriously also question this mans abilities. he did not always act properly and worthy for being the most powerful man on earth and the leader of the worlds only super power. i agree with litlitaly that it seemed like he had no idea of the world hierarchy. his politics of 'america first' where naive - it is not right to turn your back to the world.
but it's the president i don't like. i love america. the UN should try to follow them in their path. i believe it is important for the US to be the 'policeman of the world'. when the civil war in jugoslavia raged and people were slaughtered for years nobody (and certainly not the un) did anything about it. america stopped the war when they thought it got too much out of control. i certainly don't agree with the people saying that the 11th september attack was deserved because of the foreign politics of america.

i voted 'positive'

- marQ

I voted positive

I really like the USA...I have travelled to almost every state...spent time in cities and campsites...New York to LA and I'd have to say...Everywhere people are the nicest and friendly...cost of living is low...taxes are lower...greater Geographical diversity...world leading in technology and academics...yes there are bad parts mostly caused by certain policies that are not liberal as in Canada..but all in all...give em a break..people accuse the states of their "policing" ...but the rest of the world benefits extremely from this...it's not like the american military is repressing people in other countries and it's not like people are pointing guns at the heads of forein politicians to accept globalization and adopt a free society...cultural homogenization might seem bad...why? well it might seem sad to see a poor backward society..with it's own rituals and culture..now have McDonald's and Coke machines everywhere..but people now have money..democratic freedom..health care...infrastructure....etc...etc...the greatness that America brings to other countries is far outweighs the so called "bullying" and "policing" that people talk about...

..and by the way...I want to dispel the myths about Canada..you think Dubya is bad...has anyone seen or heard Jean Chretien? He can't speak..he's a joke..a national embarressment...I wish that clown would get outta there..

o-k usa!

heheh, ya i like the u.s., they're quite friendly & very hospitable people

also has an interesting history as i found on our holiday...never knew much american history before. and it's a very diverse country...mainly 'cos it's so damn big...but even then there's so much variety in the land & people

well, only gripe i have about the u.s. is the food! hehe, maybe we just went to *all* the wrong places...but it's kinda tasteless i think...dunno maybe just get spoilt, but if i think the americans could learn anything is to make better food

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Originally posted by tiesto14 yes we are....cus if we dont we will have many nations trying many STUPID things to all nations ...and since we are the SUPER power we have the upper hand to enforce

Now, i'm one considerin the States a great country for many aspects but this is the attitude that makes this country blind to other cultures leadin to enemies growth. Naturally no country is perfect but every country deserves the same respect as long as it doesn't break human society laws. Sure usa is a super power, no doubt, but it should be so to lead other countries not to impose its lifestyle and stuff in a dictatorial way.
Let's hope that wisdom will continue to prevail over strenght demonstration.

I looooovveeee America!!!!

Ill put up a nice american statement. We are the best. We have money. We have power. we dont learn other languages because everyone learns ours. Heck, half the world speaks it better than a lot of americans do! If your culture was so great why are people givin it up for ours (hehe ok thats probably not fair) our music rocks and we dont take in other stuff because the rest of the world seems to be stuck in our 80s decade EEEK. even kylie minogues song which is great is so ...euro 80s. Our nation was founded on the fact that we whooped on other people. Japan said it the best "If we attack America I fear we will wake a sleeping giant". yeah that was true. ok ok so some of our policies suck...what are you gonna do bout it hahahaha. I went to Canada on a road trip with a whole bunch of people and we felt so...superior. I dont know what it is. I like Canadians better than Americans, but its still like wow America rocks. You live in America it all about freedom, technology, and the will to go on. I dunno America is so great. In My Humble Opinion we should take over the world. Or at least conquer them all and let them practice their rituals on certain days.


(This is been a joke for the most part. I do believe America is great. really great. But im always fascinated knowing whether it is that people hate America, or hate the fact that they dont live there)

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Originally posted by Orbax But im always fascinated knowing whether it is that people hate America, or hate the fact that they dont live there)

GOOODDD POINT.....i never thought of it like that

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Originally posted by tiesto14 ...and since we are the SUPER power we have the upper hand to enforce

its opinions like that which give peopel negative opinions of your country...

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Originally posted by DuMonde TrAnCeR its opinions like that which give peopel negative opinions of your country...

well thats NOT my term...it is a world-wide term used to describe the United States and Russia...we are in fact the 2 super powers of the world...thats just the truth....

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Originally posted by Orbax Ill put up a nice american statement. We are the best. We have money.

So u hav money, wow, that dusn't make america a good country. Prehaps thats due to the lack of social environmental policy and your overuse of the worlds resources. America uses more of the worlds resources than the REST OF THE WORLD PUT TOGETHER. I also read in the paper that Manhatten generates more waste in 1 week than London does in a WHOLE YEAR.

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We have power.

Yes u have power, but do u use it fairly or wisely? Or do u use it 2 try 2 b a bully and act like u rule the world? It's debateable...

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we dont learn other languages because everyone learns ours. Heck, half the world speaks it better than a lot of americans do!

So becuz u've got ur head up ur arse and u can't speak ur own language properly thats something 2 b proud of?

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If your culture was so great why are people givin it up for ours (hehe ok thats probably not fair)

Because of the image of wealth that Americanism projects; it appeals to people. Humans want wealth, American culture projects an image of wealth for all, thus other countries (particularly) poorer 1s look up to America. However they fail to see the bad side of American culture with global giants exploiting people, the worst divides between rich & poor in the world and a belief that we can just keep growing and growing making more money and we'll never run out of resources.

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our music rocks and we dont take in other stuff because the rest of the world seems to be stuck in our 80s decade EEEK. even kylie minogues song which is great is so ...euro 80s.

Ur music rocks!? WTF Even if u weren't in a trance forum I fail 2 c how it rocks! Name ne American trance producer than can better all other trance producers; lets face it the majority of the best trance producers are in Europe. However, trance aside, u do produce some good music but I don't think it is much better than that produced in other areas of the world. Not taking in other stuff is not something to be proud of either; it's good to have a mix of different music styles etc.

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Our nation was founded on the fact that we whooped on other people. Japan said it the best "If we attack America I fear we will wake a sleeping giant". yeah that was true.

Whooping other people is nothing to be proud of... Explain to me how killing people is a good thing...

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ok ok so some of our policies suck...what are you gonna do bout it hahahaha.

If american continues its policy of acting in isolation not caring about the rest of the world then it will have fucking problems. What are we going to do about it? Events such as September 11th, which many see as not just an attack on America, have shown us all that we can't defend ourselves against EVERYTHING. Any country with a nuke could destroy the whole world, if not the majority of it if it chose to.

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I went to Canada on a road trip with a whole bunch of people and we felt so...superior. I dont know what it is. I like Canadians better than Americans, but its still like wow America rocks.

What the fuck makes you better? NO ONE in this world is better than anyone else, we are all equals.

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You live in America it all about freedom, technology, and the will to go on. I dunno America is so great. In My Humble Opinion we should take over the world. Or at least conquer them all and let them practice their rituals on certain days. (This is been a joke for the most part. I do believe America is great. really great. But im always fascinated knowing whether it is that people hate America, or hate the fact that they dont live there)

It's not because they don't live there, it's not the people they hate, it's Americanism they hate. Your post is a classic example of why people dislike America.


Also, i'd just like to say, when people say they hate America they don't really mean they hate the whole of the country and its people. What they mean is they dislike some aspects of American culture, not the people, or the country. Anyway thats how I see things; I have American friends, I like the country, I like the people, I don't like certain aspects of American 'foreign policy' and its culture.

Finally, it's not like America is the giant evil in the world and everyone else is all perfect. There are problems with every country in the world, the UK has its fair share of them 2. America does seem to be subject to quite a lot of criticism, prehaps thats due to their position as one of the worlds leading powers (not THE super power, not better than anyone else, but nevertheless a powerful country) putting them in the spotlight, or maybe it's because 'Americanism' is spreading.

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Originally posted by dig2k I also read in the paper that Manhatten generates more waste in 1 week than London does in a WHOLE YEAR.

whats your point with that statement???...Manhattan is more populated then London so of course there would be more waste...in a house with 4 people u will have more waste then in a house of just 1..thats just COMMON SENSE.

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Originally posted by dig2k So becuz u've got ur head up ur arse and u can't speak ur own language properly thats something 2 b proud of?.

well MAYBE u should of read the bottom of Orbax's post where he said for the most part what he wrote was JOKE..i am sure this was part of the joke not meant to be taken literally..so i dont think u need to say he has his head up his ass

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Originally posted by dig2k Because of the image of wealth that Americanism projects; it appeals to people. Humans want wealth, American culture projects an image of wealth for all, thus other countries (particularly) poorer 1s look up to America. However they fail to see the bad side of American culture with global giants exploiting people, the worst divides between rich & poor in the world and a belief that we can just keep growing and growing making more money and we'll never run out of resources..

Well America projects OPPURTUNITY, more over then other countries, to become wealthy from nothing...thats why they may look up to us. EVERY country has gloabal giants that exploit people and every country is divided between the rich and the poor...thats more COMMON SENSE

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Originally posted by dig2k Ur music rocks!? WTF Even if u weren't in a trance forum I fail 2 c how it rocks! Name ne American trance producer than can better all other trance producers; lets face it the majority of the best trance producers are in Europe. However, trance aside, u do produce some good music but I don't think it is much better than that produced in other areas of the world. Not taking in other stuff is not something to be proud of either; it's good to have a mix of different music styles etc...

I agree with u there

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Originally posted by dig2k Whooping other people is nothing to be proud of... Explain to me how killing people is a good thing......

he never said killing people...he meant that if anyone tests Americas resolve in warfare that we will show the world we will not stand for it and will fight with extremes...as would any country

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Originally posted by dig2k If american continues its policy of acting in isolation not caring about the rest of the world then it will have fucking problems. What are we going to do about it? Events such as September 11th, which many see as not just an attack on America, have shown us all that we can't defend ourselves against EVERYTHING. Any country with a nuke could destroy the whole world, if not the majority of it if it chose to.......

well noone, not even America can defend against a blind-sided attack such as the cowardly attacks of September 11th....and not for nothing but the terrorists couldnt even attack us taht good when u REALLY think about it...the survival rate of September 11th was around 93% of the people targeted that day..thats a better rate the heart disease and most any other disease..so it goes to show u that America may not of been prepared but we sure withstood it with a superb survival rate....

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Originally posted by dig2k What the fuck makes you better? NO ONE in this world is better than anyone else, we are all equals........

for the most part

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Originally posted by dig2k It's not because they don't live there, it's not the people they hate, it's Americanism they hate. Your post is a classic example of why people dislike America.

well your post is a classic example of someone with very little common sense....tell me this why is it that more people wanna live in America then ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD....lemme see cus we have more oppurtunities and freedoms...sorry but thats the truth

OH...MY....GOD... You are dumb. What did the end of my post say?????? what did the beginning say?????? THE WHOLE POST WAS A JOKE. you sensitive little bee itch. Now I really DO think im better than at least 1 person on this earth.

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Originally posted by tiesto14 whats your point with that statement???...Manhattan is more populated then London so of course there would be more waste...in a house with 4 people u will have more waste then in a house of just 1..thats just COMMON SENSE.

Could you just remind me of the area of Manhattan, my US geography is really bad, but isn't it an area of New York or am I listing the wrong place?

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well MAYBE u should of read the bottom of Orbax's post where he said for the most part what he wrote was JOKE..i am sure this was part of the joke not meant to be taken literally..so i dont think u need to say he has his head up his ass

I KNOW he sed MOST of it was a joke, but some of the arguments he put forwards are ones I have heard before, I was merely counteracting them for those sorts of people.

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Well America projects OPPURTUNITY, more over then other countries, to become wealthy from nothing...thats why they may look up to us.

100% agree, that's what I sed

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EVERY country has gloabal giants that exploit people and every country is divided between the rich and the poor...thats more COMMON SENSE

Yes, but to different extents. In some countries the divide is much smaller.

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I agree with u there

lol how cud u not agree with me there, esp. being a tiesto fan

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he never said killing people...he meant that if anyone tests Americas resolve in warfare that we will show the world we will not stand for it and will fight with extremes...as would any country

True, but sometimes war is not the best answer e.g. Iran & 'critical engagement'

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well noone, not even America can defend against a blind-sided attack

That is exactly what I said?

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such as the cowardly attacks of September 11th.... and not for nothing but the terrorists couldnt even attack us taht good when u REALLY think about it...

Of course I don't agree with the attacks made on the US but what do you expect a poor country like Afghanistan to do against a 'super' power like the US. Like it or not the US is one of the most powerful military forces in the world.

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the survival rate of September 11th was around 93% of the people targeted that day..thats a better rate the heart disease and most any other disease..so it goes to show u that America may not of been prepared but we sure withstood it with a superb survival rate....

Survival rates don't really come into it, it was more symbolic that anything else.

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well your post is a classic example of someone with very little common sense....tell me this why is it that more people wanna live in America then ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD....lemme see cus we have more oppurtunities and freedoms...sorry but thats the truth

We have obviously had some misunderstandings. I was merely using Orbax's post to highlight some of the downfalls on America as his post did make some genuine points in defence of the US.

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Originally posted by tiesto14 OH...MY....GOD... You are dumb. What did the end of my post say?????? what did the beginning say?????? THE WHOLE POST WAS A JOKE. you sensitive little bee itch. Now I really DO think im better than at least 1 person on this earth.

for the MOST part your post was a joke. However I have heard the kinds of things stated in your post made by other people seriously. I was merely using them as the BASIS to provide some arguments against the US. If you read my comments they do not entirely rely upon your post.


Anyway, obviously I have failed to make my arguments clear, constructive and well understood. Sorry, especially if I have offended anyone.

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Originally posted by vmc But the point is that the US are expanding their culture and that's the thing that annoyes lots of people. The McDonaldisation of the society, culture - you know what I mean (I don't know the proper English term).

This is NOT America's fault!!! Blame it on our companies, not our country!

We use Japan for all of our Electronics, and have lots of cultural influence from other countries in ours. (in Texas, we don't bitch about it being Mexicanizing...)

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ALso there are stereotipes of Americans being egoistic and mind-closed people, who thinks the only good culture is their own and never learn foreign languages.

hehheheheehehe...this is kind of true, with the foriegn languages. i don't think it's a big deal though, every country has their little faults...

I like the U.S., it's not the "Whole World" of course, but it's a well-meaning country.

Just so happens we're the superpower, so we get the most critizism, most responsibility, most influence...so...people either love us or hate us.

I think America sometimes get seen badly by the rest of world, a lot of Americans are nice, people but I've also though met a lot more America people who act like arrogent wankers with there heads stuck up their arse then have with any other nationality, but all countries have bad all countries have good.

I hate some acts the American Government have done, not the people, I think American Congress can fuck off out of everyone elses business, for a starters the 3 Irish National Citizens, found in Columbia supposidly training F.A.R.C. rebels is no one elses business, they have no right saying any of them 3 are IRA terrorists, the part I most disliked was the Americans openly contacted the British government about it, its nothing to deal with UK and its not their fault, the US government have made a mountain out of a mole hill, and its situation the Irish government and Columbian government should deal with no other nation, regardless on what intelligence the US hold. If the US government want to act like that and rat out on people, then chances are next time an offical visits Eire, they will get sprayed with bullets. Yes Columbia produces most of the Cocaine that hits the streets of the USA and every other nation in the world, but drugs war and pure snooping is another thing.

The only other thing that pisses me off, is this we're the best attitude, that some Americans have it gets old and it gets annoying, everyone is proud and patriotic of their home country and they have a right to be like that, but the we're the best we rule attitude, makes people hate you more, regardless of what power you have the world doesn't make you better and certainly doesn't give you the right to speak down to any other nation, you may have the money, you have the technology, but for an instance in Desert Storm, General Schwartzcoff picked the British Special forces the SAS, over your own, and openly in public called them the best special forces unit in the world, so your not the best at everything. I world people should consider it great that we have so many different, Nations and Cultures, we can all learn a lot from each other, the top dog we're best we rule attitude ruins that because people think that your arseholes as simple as that.

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