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i think no matter how much you explain it, we cant really help you. the quality of the track (like sound quality, eq, compression, good drum samples, shit like that) is what gets your song played, not knit picking the structure of it, because you can have a great structure, but it can be technically poor. so how about posting a sample of it, btw how long have you been producing?

what i am worried about, i have realised is when do djs fade into my track

i have (in my opinion) something quite african percussive type as early as bar 9 after the opening 8 bars are kick and hihhats.

i am worried that this section will be glanced over and it is important to my structure. to generate the feel of the whole piece.
(my opinion of course)

i am wondering if i make the first 8 bars longer to 16 so there is more chance of the dj fading into my track by the time the african-like percussion starts.

that will put everything back by 8 bars, but it seems from what djs are saying i shouldnt worry about this.

i guess i am trying to find out when djs fade into the 2nd track which might be the stupidest question on this forum ever.

but hey, someones got to ask that one.. hey hey

my track-latest structure
bar 1-8 kick drum and hi hhats

bar 8-24 a new percussive section (african style drumming)

bar 25-32 another percussion section (still no bass instrument )

bar 33 - 65 a melodic motif taken from the main melody with heaps of percussive stuff underneath and no bass line - plenty of tribal percussion though

Do you even read any of the replies?

yes i do read the replies.

i am also practising heaps now on virtual dj software to sense it all better

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Originally posted by technomonster what i am worried about, i have realised is when do djs fade into my track i have (in my opinion) something quite african percussive type as early as bar 9 after the opening 8 bars are kick and hihhats. i am worried that this section will be glanced over and it is important to my structure. to generate the feel of the whole piece. (my opinion of course) i am wondering if i make the first 8 bars longer to 16 so there is more chance of the dj fading into my track by the time the african-like percussion starts. that will put everything back by 8 bars, but it seems from what djs are saying i shouldnt worry about this. i guess i am trying to find out when djs fade into the 2nd track which might be the stupidest question on this forum ever. but hey, someones got to ask that one.. hey hey my track-latest structure bar 1-8 kick drum and hi hhats bar 8-24 a new percussive section (african style drumming) bar 25-32 another percussion section (still no bass instrument ) bar 33 - 65 a melodic motif taken from the main melody with heaps of percussive stuff underneath and no bass line - plenty of tribal percussion though

As a lot of people are saying...you can do whatever you want.

When you say bars, do you mean measures? As in, 8 bars is 32 beats?

If so, 32 beats is pleeeennnnty of time. The mix probably won't be over by then, but your track should definitely be prominent enough that whatever you do will be heard.

Again though, as we've been saying, you should post a sample of what you've got if you really want this in-depth advice.

yes IntegraR0064
i do mean 8 bars equals 32 beats.

""""The mix probably won't be over by then"""
what do you mean by that.

also are you a pro dj

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Originally posted by Trance Nutter thats the dj's problem, not yours. How many times do you have to be told that?

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Originally posted by D-res samples of current unfinished work (so we can help you) or stfu

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Originally posted by IntegraR0064 The only way we MIGHT be able to help you is if you post a sample of what it sounds like now. Doesn't matter if it's totally unfinished, or whatever...just post it.

Quoted for emphasis.

Guys try not to humor this fella and refrain from posting until he posts some samples.

CAN YOU PLZ POST SOME SAMPLES YOU DUMBASS?

did you get that now?

no humour in htis.

i guess i am trying to come up with a mix-in intro which will work with everthing else, mmmmmmmmmm,, maybe thats my problem

i am now working out how to post samples.
looking around the site for instructions

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Originally posted by technomonster i am now working out how to post samples. looking around the site for instructions

Save your mixdown into an mp3 or wma or other compressed file. Then go to www.yousendit.com and follow the instructions to upload a file. After it uploads it it will give you a link. Copy that link, and post it here.

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Originally posted by technomonster yes IntegraR0064 i do mean 8 bars equals 32 bars. """"The mix probably won't be over by then""" what do you mean by that. also are you a pro dj

When you DJ, you're blending the two tracks for a while before going totally over to one or the other. With 32 beats of bass and high hats, if the DJ wants to mix out during the bass and high hat region, he can do that while not having to mix out super quickly.

Most wouldn't though...they'd leave both tracks mixed together until something actually starts going on in the second track. You won't fix this by adding more beats...they'll just start the mix later in the track most likely.

Basically...it doesn't really matter what you do, the DJ will mix in when he wants to. You have given him time to mix out before the tribal thing starts if that's what he wants to do, so there's no reason to extend that period.

But that's just my humble opinion. Am I a pro DJ? Probably not...what is a pro DJ anyway? I have played in large clubs on multiple occasions, does that make me pro? Depends on your definition.

Now post some damn samples

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Originally posted by stevieboy32808 Guys try not to humor this fella and refrain from posting until he gives us the nickname of his main account.

fixed.

i might add that

the piece is 140 BPM and the first 8 bars therefore take about 14 seconds.

This track will be a fucking mess

now,

POST SOME MUTHAFUCKING SAMPLES



and make the track however the fuck you fell like it! If the drum beat is so important to the track, it'll be played. Its the DJs fuckin job to mix the music to suit the track, not your job to make the track to suit the mix. Why don't you understand that?

If you're so worried about the structure, listen to other tracks and take note of what that producer has done and when they do it, it'll give you an indication. Seriously, why the fuck do we have to do all the thinking for you?

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