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Posted by Ryan0751 on Jul-10-2006 14:05:

Unless you have a newer Mac laptop like I do, no cardbus slot

quote:
Originally posted by jahnlay
Best interface for a laptop is the Echo Indigo DJ:



4 channel 24 bit 96 kHz playback.


Posted by Zild on Jul-10-2006 18:26:

quote:
Originally posted by JBDreamerie
haha; so i'm guessing ableton does the beatmatching automatically, or what? splain please


It automatically timestretches the tracks to the master BPM.


Posted by JBDreamerie on Jul-10-2006 23:17:

one more thing:

anybody know the difference between ableton live 5 lite and regular ableton live 5?
is it just the number of midis you can mess around with?


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Jul-20-2006 02:25:

How do you go about doing pre-recorded sets in Ableton? I'm not interested in mixing live - I just want to piece tracks together for compilations for my car really for when I can't be arsed to use my decks.

I know where the arrangement section is, and I can drop tracks into it accordingly. From there I know how to warp the track i've dragged in. But after that I don't know how to mix the tracks i've added together.

Help me please. I can offer sexual favours.

I'm using Ableton 5.0.2


Posted by RJT on Jul-20-2006 02:30:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
I can offer sexual favours.


God I wish I could help you


Posted by Clovis on Jul-20-2006 02:31:

Sorry I cant help you mikey, I always mix live.


Posted by Drake44444 on Jul-20-2006 04:41:

Use the record button to record the sets and all changes you make to volume and EQ and stuff. And also use the mixer in arrangement view to set up things you want to automate.


Posted by Zild on Jul-20-2006 08:22:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
How do you go about doing pre-recorded sets in Ableton? I'm not interested in mixing live - I just want to piece tracks together for compilations for my car really for when I can't be arsed to use my decks.

I know where the arrangement section is, and I can drop tracks into it accordingly. From there I know how to warp the track i've dragged in. But after that I don't know how to mix the tracks i've added together.

Help me please. I can offer sexual favours.

I'm using Ableton 5.0.2


You have to mix it live while you are recording it. Use the session view for warping. Use autowarp then set the first warp marker (the green one) Then zoom in on the last beat and line it up. Voila! your track is warped perfectly.


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Jul-20-2006 08:32:

Yea I know how to warp the tracks. But I was lead to believe that you could program sets in Ableton in a similar fashion to that of a program like Mixmeister. Have I been misinformed? I best not have been or I might have to unleash the wrath of my fury on the deceiver.

I don't like Mixmeister, I can't figure out how to beatmatch with it for shit.


Posted by G-Con on Jul-20-2006 14:12:

In session view hit record then start playing and mixing your pre warped tracks. When done, switch to arrangement view, highlight everything, then file - render to disk.

Or if you dont wanna do it live then in arrangement view, drag first track in. Grab second track drag it along time line to wherever you want it to start mixing in, then third track etc etc. Afterwards manually draw in automation for eq's etc then select all and render to disk.

Personally I'd much rather just record it live in session view and go from there


Posted by jahnlay on Jul-20-2006 15:37:

Jeez, some of you guys can speak BS!You can mix it in the arrange window without recording it live. Do a search on www.abletonlivedj.com for a tutorial on warping then just drag your tracks into the Arrange page in order that you want to mix them, alternating the track and then you can automate the crossfader on the master track by double clicking the line and dragging it across. It's so easy it's like paint by numbers.


Posted by Zild on Jul-20-2006 18:49:

quote:
Originally posted by jahnlay
Jeez, some of you guys can speak BS!You can mix it in the arrange window without recording it live. Do a search on www.abletonlivedj.com for a tutorial on warping then just drag your tracks into the Arrange page in order that you want to mix them, alternating the track and then you can automate the crossfader on the master track by double clicking the line and dragging it across. It's so easy it's like paint by numbers.


Hell yea! I'm gonna try that out today thanks.


Posted by G-Con on Jul-21-2006 10:33:

quote:
Originally posted by jahnlay
Jeez, some of you guys can speak BS!You can mix it in the arrange window without recording it live. Do a search on www.abletonlivedj.com for a tutorial on warping then just drag your tracks into the Arrange page in order that you want to mix them, alternating the track and then you can automate the crossfader on the master track by double clicking the line and dragging it across. It's so easy it's like paint by numbers.


Thats pretty much what I've just said


Posted by The 3am Junkie on Jul-22-2006 01:41:

I'll be using it on a desktop, so I guess i can also use a pci sound card. The minimum thing sound card needs to have in order to be able to cue is for it to have multiple channels ? or is there something else, well midi would help but it isnt absolutely necessary or is it?

I just want to have the uc-33e or the bcr2000 and a basic sound card (30$) at least for now. Later I might upgrade to the M-Audio.


Posted by ianco on Jul-26-2006 00:17:

CDJ

Do what you will but...
I tried going down this route, it gave me an idea but eventually I invested in some really old, cheap, used Gemini CDJs off ebay, a bottom range mixer and nicked a pair of dud headphones from my father-in-law.
Not including the price of 10 blank CDs, within a month and for U$300 I was beatmatching. The hands on feel is incomparable. DJing is pretty new down here (south Brazil - MKIIs are the price of a small car!!) so I was doing live sets at small parties within six months - not good live sets but ones that nevertheless paid for my upgrades.
Can you get U$300 together? In my view it would be worth it. If you really are a DJ (i.e. not necessarily good but just LOVE the feeling of spinning tunes) eventaully you'll find a way to get a little more cash together, sell your existing stuff on and move up to better gear. In fact, it'll become your mission in life.
P.S. After learning to beatmatch with dud headphones, using studio ones is a cinch and I can't wait to find out what I can do with MKIIs.


Posted by JBDreamerie on Jul-26-2006 01:27:

anybody know why when i try to put in a song in ableton, it says "could not decode the file using available codecs" ? it won't do it for all the songs, just some, and it doesn't have to do with the format, because it'll work sometimes for one, and another, but then not another song of the same file extension.

any ideas? or on how to fix it?


Posted by davemolina on Jul-27-2006 01:55:

quote:
Originally posted by JBDreamerie
anybody know why when i try to put in a song in ableton, it says "could not decode the file using available codecs" ? it won't do it for all the songs, just some, and it doesn't have to do with the format, because it'll work sometimes for one, and another, but then not another song of the same file extension.

any ideas? or on how to fix it?


I think you might be trying to load a VBR MP3. What version are you running?


Posted by JBDreamerie on Jul-27-2006 02:45:

quote:
Originally posted by davemolina
I think you might be trying to load a VBR MP3. What version are you running?


5.0.3.

VBR MP3...not sure what that is...is there anyway to check whether it is, or to switch it some other readable form?


Posted by jahnlay on Jul-27-2006 09:09:

a variable bit rate mp3, just convert it to wav and then load it into Ableton


Posted by DJ Dinz on Aug-01-2006 15:34:

Hi guys,

first of all i dont want to start another ABLETON thread...

i have a question.. im using Audiophile 192... i have try everything, reading the manual etc... but i cant seperate the Headphone cue n the track that is play?

is it Audiophile 192 is not proper for ABLETON?

Pls anyone

i have a big headache here hehe


Posted by superglo on Aug-01-2006 17:21:

Re: CDJ

quote:
Originally posted by ianco
Do what you will but...
I tried going down this route, it gave me an idea but eventually I invested in some really old, cheap, used Gemini CDJs off ebay, a bottom range mixer and nicked a pair of dud headphones from my father-in-law.
Not including the price of 10 blank CDs, within a month and for U$300 I was beatmatching. The hands on feel is incomparable. DJing is pretty new down here (south Brazil - MKIIs are the price of a small car!!) so I was doing live sets at small parties within six months - not good live sets but ones that nevertheless paid for my upgrades.
Can you get U$300 together? In my view it would be worth it. If you really are a DJ (i.e. not necessarily good but just LOVE the feeling of spinning tunes) eventaully you'll find a way to get a little more cash together, sell your existing stuff on and move up to better gear. In fact, it'll become your mission in life.
P.S. After learning to beatmatch with dud headphones, using studio ones is a cinch and I can't wait to find out what I can do with MKIIs.


cool.
thats the exact road i'm taking.
i started off with just a desktop. then upgraded to a laptop. then bought a cheapo mixer too hook up to my laptop. managed to get myself a couple of gigs using the laptop and now i've finally got enough to get myself 2 cdj200s (which are on the way..) and upgrade my mixer.
wooohooo !


Posted by davemolina on Aug-02-2006 00:34:

If you have no aspirations to produce, then stick to CDs by all means. I prefer to immerse myself in Ableton so I can create mixes and then use the skills I learned while mixing to produce.


Posted by The 3am Junkie on Aug-02-2006 02:16:

Just to give an update a bought the following:
M-Audio Audiophile Firewire
Behringer BCR-2000
Sony MDR V500

The package should arrive in about two weeks. And btw I'm definetly planning on eventually producing on ableton after taking some piano and music theory lessons.


Posted by Danila on Aug-02-2006 15:56:

Zild what kind of MIDI controller you have? And how do you like it.

I got Ableton demo and let me tell you, it rocks. Im beginner producer and love it. + Ableton for DJing sounds sick, so many possibilities (loops, effects)


Posted by davemolina on Aug-02-2006 16:29:

Danila,

I like your avatar. What is it?


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