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Originally posted by barosoap If you hear someone Chinese saying "nigga" in regular conversation, it could also just be 'na ge, which kinda of works like "umm" or "err" in English. It's a filler for when someone's trying to get a thought out.

i didnt know that....in korean i dont know of any fillers other than the typical filler sounds like....hmmmm....or a pucker of the lips

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Originally posted by Blake into main stream culture...ie movies, SNL, news, etc. koreans in korea have a FASCINATION with hip hop the culture and its music. i mean like i was sayin before they have clubs where people go to live that hip hop hype. its hard to describe...maybe i can find some video. i tried searching on youtube but the videos arent clear.

As for your sig I guess I used the wrong smiley. I read "lots of people have unprotected sex in Korea. There are lots of girls on birth control ... can you dig it?" LOL. As I was scrolling down your sig just kinda went with what you were saying.

And yeah, 'nigga' has become popularized and I'll leave it at that. It's a bit of a touchy subject for me


ahahahah i thought you meant my can you dig it sig offended you. i didnt get it. but i see your point. i guess the sig does kinda go hand in hand in a mischievious way with my comments about girls in korea but its true. girls there are quite scandalous. i hear the locals there will get offended if you wear a condom implying they are dirty. however if they sleep with foreigners there is the stigma that they all are disease carriers. for example...a lot of non korean men are not allowed into the red light district industry of korea. some areas are CATERED to foreigners but they have prositution for korean only.

nigga has def become popularized and i can understand your discomfort with it. its kind of like when people make stupid chinese accents thinking its funny like pretending to order food for lunch. but tahts people. i went to korea and they were racist towards me because im from america but im still korean! well in some cases. generally people were friendly.



Heh. Yeah, I remember hearing about that in some of my language coursework when we went over hesitation sounds. I'll keep that in mind if I ever make it to China. I'm a little afraid to go there though. [/QUOTE]

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Originally posted by Blake into main stream culture...ie movies, SNL, news, etc. koreans in korea have a FASCINATION with hip hop the culture and its music. i mean like i was sayin before they have clubs where people go to live that hip hop hype. its hard to describe...maybe i can find some video. i tried searching on youtube but the videos arent clear.

As for your sig I guess I used the wrong smiley. I read "lots of people have unprotected sex in Korea. There are lots of girls on birth control ... can you dig it?" LOL. As I was scrolling down your sig just kinda went with what you were saying.

And yeah, 'nigga' has become popularized and I'll leave it at that. It's a bit of a touchy subject for me


and dont be afraid to go. you should really check it out. if anything they will fear YOu more.




Heh. Yeah, I remember hearing about that in some of my language coursework when we went over hesitation sounds. I'll keep that in mind if I ever make it to China. I'm a little afraid to go there though. [/QUOTE]

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Originally posted by illmaticnyc i didnt know that....in korean i dont know of any fillers other than the typical filler sounds like....hmmmm....or a pucker of the lips

In Tagalog (Filipino) it's "ang" or "yong" which means "the umm..."

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Originally posted by Blake Heh. Yeah, I remember hearing about that in some of my language coursework when we went over hesitation sounds. I'll keep that in mind if I ever make it to China. I'm a little afraid to go there though.

If you go, make sure to go with someone who speaks Chinese. Even though cities like Beijing and Shanghai are quickly developing, it's still hard to find anyone who speaks English. I don't know Cantonese or Mandarin, and the last time I went my greatest fear was getting lost and being swallowed up by the sea of other Asian people.

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Originally posted by illmaticnyc and dont be afraid to go. you should really check it out. if anything they will fear YOu more.

Very true lol no offense.

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Originally posted by barosoap If you go, make sure to go with someone who speaks Chinese. Even though cities like Beijing and Shanghai are quickly developing, it's still hard to find anyone who speaks English. I don't know Cantonese or Mandarin, and the last time I went my greatest fear was getting lost and being swallowed up by the sea of other Asian people. Very true lol no offense.

The language barrier is exactly what I'm afraid of. And I take it that, as you said, some countries are more 'English friendly' than others. My college language coursework was in Japanese though, so I'll start my travels in Tokyo, then hopefully brave the wilds of some of the typical TA European destinations

More afraid of me huh? I know in China the word for foreigner was once the equivalent of "white-devil". Now it's changed to "foreigner-devil" I believe. In Japan it was the same. Now it's just 'foreigner'. I wonder if it's the same in Korea or anywhere else.

I also hear that being from NYC is recieved differently than being from anywhere else in the US. Any truth in this?

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Originally posted by Blake The language barrier is exactly what I'm afraid of. And I take it that, as you said, some countries are more 'English friendly' than others. My college language coursework was in Japanese though, so I'll start my travels in Tokyo, then hopefully brave the wilds of some of the typical TA European destinations More afraid of me huh? I know in China the word for foreigner was once the equivalent of "white-devil". Now it's changed to "foreigner-devil" I believe. In Japan it was the same. Now it's just 'foreigner'. I wonder if it's the same in Korea or anywhere else. I also hear that being from NYC is recieved differently than being from anywhere else in the US. Any truth in this?

i lived in japan for a while. Gai Jin is what they call you, means outsider... I used to get pointed out and whispered about all the time in my town, but once you speak the language and realise they are just curious because they never see foriengers its not that bad. it is a little annoying when you have lived there for ages and you call it home but they still call you the out sider... but thats just the way it is

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Originally posted by Blake I also hear that being from NYC is recieved differently than being from anywhere else in the US. Any truth in this?

I have more experience with Europe than Asia, but I'd say you get more "Ooohhs" and "Ahhhs" when you say you're a New Yorker. These are followed by "I went to New York once..." which is a nice ice breaker.

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Originally posted by barosoap I have more experience with Europe than Asia, but I'd say you get more "Ooohhs" and "Ahhhs" when you say you're a New Yorker. These are followed by "I went to New York once..." which is a nice ice breaker.

Even in America you get treated differently if you're from New York as opposed to say, South Dakota or Texas.

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Originally posted by barosoap I have more experience with Europe than Asia, but I'd say you get more "Ooohhs" and "Ahhhs" when you say you're a New Yorker. These are followed by "I went to New York once..." which is a nice ice breaker.

some truth to that. when iw as in korea i got some oos and ahhs because i was from new york. i had some what of an instant cool factor to some. some were scared like i shot people before and i rape and pillage setting fires to expensive loft apartments....or villages. i might as well wear a fucking bone through my nose.

anyways....blake...check out other countries despite your lack of the native language. that shuldnt stop you. and you might have taken japanese classes but speaking with japanese people on their level and speed is different. just go and absorb into it. thats the quickest and most productive way to learn anything. i am korean and i had a hard time in korea getting around. i can speak it but beacuse my dialect isnt all that great along with my pronunciation, well....i had to use my hands and fingers a lot.


in korea though i know a lot of the girls are attracted to black dudes. fad? i dont know. could be. just like anything else and at any time it could be "cool" to date the taboo. i have ink all over my body and some girls were scared and some were turned on. whatever floats their boat.

in regards to foreigners. they even have a term for me although im korea. gyok po is the word for american born korean. weh gook is foreigner. gook is country. megook is america. thats how the term GOOK came about towards koreans. the stupid ignorant soldier boys would make fun of the koreans saying...hey look at them slanted eye mother******s...they are saying me gook. so..call them gooks! little did they knwo that we were embracing them for coming to our country during the war. the word me actually means "beautiful" which translates to "Beautiful country." kinda makes you feel stupid if one were ignorant enough to call a korean a gook because they say mi gook for america. han is korea which is hangook. korean country.

im probably going to travel to bangkok and korea again. if we go at the same time id be happy to escort part of the trip and get you situated.

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Originally posted by illmaticnyc some truth to that. when iw as in korea i got some oos and ahhs because i was from new york. i had some what of an instant cool factor to some. some were scared like i shot people before and i rape and pillage setting fires to expensive loft apartments....or villages. i might as well wear a fucking bone through my nose. anyways....blake...check out other countries despite your lack of the native language. that shuldnt stop you. and you might have taken japanese classes but speaking with japanese people on their level and speed is different. just go and absorb into it. thats the quickest and most productive way to learn anything. i am korean and i had a hard time in korea getting around. i can speak it but beacuse my dialect isnt all that great along with my pronunciation, well....i had to use my hands and fingers a lot. in korea though i know a lot of the girls are attracted to black dudes. fad? i dont know. could be. just like anything else and at any time it could be "cool" to date the taboo. i have ink all over my body and some girls were scared and some were turned on. whatever floats their boat. in regards to foreigners. they even have a term for me although im korea. gyok po is the word for american born korean. weh gook is foreigner. gook is country. megook is america. thats how the term GOOK came about towards koreans. the stupid ignorant soldier boys would make fun of the koreans saying...hey look at them slanted eye mother******s...they are saying me gook. so..call them gooks! little did they knwo that we were embracing them for coming to our country during the war. the word me actually means "beautiful" which translates to "Beautiful country." kinda makes you feel stupid if one were ignorant enough to call a korean a gook because they say mi gook for america. han is korea which is hangook. korean country. im probably going to travel to bangkok and korea again. if we go at the same time id be happy to escort part of the trip and get you situated.

Wow. I didn't even know there was a denigratory work for Koreans.

I have a friend who went over there recently to visit family and such. Apparently they were shocked to see that she spoke Korean so well without accent given the fact that she had been contaminated having grown up in the States.

I definately agree that immersion is best when it comes to learning a language. No matter how much I study up with Japanese I'll still be nervous as hell going there. I had a very stiff professor who only taught us very formal, business talk. I'm sure I'll be asking people to repeat things a lot.

In any case I definately want to start getting my travels in before I get much older. It's good that lots of TA's travel all the time. I'll keep that in mind if I really don't want to go someplace alone. I have lots of friends who would like to travel, but not too many who can afford to, hence TAs

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Originally posted by Blake Wow. I didn't even know there was a denigratory work for Koreans. I have a friend who went over there recently to visit family and such. Apparently they were shocked to see that she spoke Korean so well without accent given the fact that she had been contaminated having grown up in the States. I definately agree that immersion is best when it comes to learning a language. No matter how much I study up with Japanese I'll still be nervous as hell going there. I had a very stiff professor who only taught us very formal, business talk. I'm sure I'll be asking people to repeat things a lot. In any case I definately want to start getting my travels in before I get much older. It's good that lots of TA's travel all the time. I'll keep that in mind if I really don't want to go someplace alone. I have lots of friends who would like to travel, but not too many who can afford to, hence TAs

i wouldnt call it a denegratory term towards koreans like myself...i think its more like a classification. kinda like how we classify fresh off da boat type. or immigrants. some where happy to greet gyok pos or weh gooks. i mean you ARE in a land where it isnt very diverse. in america you are considered only a foreigner (well most of the time) if you dont live here. in koera you are a foreigner if you arent korean or cant speak korean fluently.

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Originally posted by barosoap If you hear someone Chinese saying "nigga" in regular conversation, it could also just be 'na ge, which kinda of works like "umm" or "err" in English. It's a filler for when someone's trying to get a thought out.

And If you hear someone Korean saying "ni-gga" .. which may be pronounced as "neekuh" .. it means "yours" in korean.

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Originally posted by barosoap illmaticnyc - lol great pics from Korea. I think there was another fashion trend of having body parts painted on jeans to make it look like there's no fabric there, but the "window" is new to me. Jane - I'm so jealous you went to the PI! I've wanted to visit my family and check out the scene there. What was the age range when you went clubbing? I've heard they start young... like 13ish but still go out in their 50's. Didn't know about the she-males though But yeah, one of the best things about the PI is most ppl speak English since they learn it in high school, and of course the exchange rate is a plus!

Kris - Are you Filipino? I wasn't sure. I am sure to go back again in a couple of years. The age range varied just like it would be at an EDM party here, but I'd say it was mostly an older crowd, say 25 - 40.

I also noticed that in Boracay (a huge vacationing spot in the Philippines), there were MANY KOREANS THERE. Handful of businesses catering to Koreans. Noraebangs (karaokes), restaurants, hotels .. all written in Korean. Apparently, many Koreans fly down there for vacationing/honeymooning.

In regard to she-males .. ahaha .. fun to look at! bbut I hear many men get fooled into it .. because some of them look so good!

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Originally posted by ravensyz Kris - Are you Filipino? I wasn't sure. I am sure to go back again in a couple of years. The age range varied just like it would be at an EDM party here, but I'd say it was mostly an older crowd, say 25 - 40.

I'm half Flip =) The other half is Taiwanese, but I didn't really pick up much that culture aside from bubble tea. Most of my friends in college were Filipino. They just seemed more fun and friendly than the other ethnicities at school, which were very cliquey. I really want to do a tour of Asia in the next couple years. Maybe we can go together! I'd love to take a couple months to travel before grad school, if I ever make it to grad school haha

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In regard to she-males .. ahaha .. fun to look at! bbut I hear many men get fooled into it .. because some of them look so good!

I wonder what the guys do when they find out. Get mad? or just go with it? lol

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Originally posted by barosoap I'm half Flip =) The other half is Taiwanese, but I didn't really pick up much that culture aside from bubble tea. Most of my friends in college were Filipino. They just seemed more fun and friendly than the other ethnicities at school, which were very cliquey. I really want to do a tour of Asia in the next couple years. Maybe we can go together! I'd love to take a couple months to travel before grad school, if I ever make it to grad school haha I wonder what the guys do when they find out. Get mad? or just go with it? lol

id be angry. thats lying. i hate lying and i hate unpleasant surprises.

rofl.. so funny.


u guys talkin bout nah-gu. oh by the way, nah-gu, could also mean "that" referring to a specific thing.


anyways... nothing to be afraid of in china..., i guess the non-english thing is a definitely a big factor though. i can still sorta get by with my broken mandarin... haha. the only thing about china is that media and news is still somewhat censored there and u definitely have to watch what you say about the government. other than that... it feels pretty much normal.

as for taiwan... if and of u guys are ever thinking bout goin there... damn, it'll lead for some good times... and good food. i saw sasha there for new years 2003, definitely one of my best parties i've ever been to.. they know whats up with the friggin lights and lasers... haha.

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Originally posted by barosoap I'm half Flip =) The other half is Taiwanese, but I didn't really pick up much that culture aside from bubble tea. Most of my friends in college were Filipino. They just seemed more fun and friendly than the other ethnicities at school, which were very cliquey. I really want to do a tour of Asia in the next couple years. Maybe we can go together! I'd love to take a couple months to travel before grad school, if I ever make it to grad school haha

Chris, I agree with you. Everyone in the Philippines were super nice and very friendly. Even my Flip friends here!

I LOVE to travel. And I would definitely consider countryhopping in Asia w/ you! Ahaha. I've even considered taking a couple months of too.. ahaha.

Here are some sites to look at for some cheap travel:
1. Malaysia Airlines http://us.malaysiaairlines.com/
2. Air Asia http://www.airasia.com/site/en/home.jsp
3. Jet Star Asia http://jetstarasia.com/index.php

I know someone that recently booked via the above .. she booked flights to six countries for $1200! Cheaper than the base $1399 for the All Asia Pass BEFORE taxes (below):

1.http://us.malaysiaairlines.com/mys/...otions/aap.html
2.http://www.cathay-usa.com/offers/aap/offer.asp

Maybe in a couple of years!

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Originally posted by ravensyz Kris, I agree with you. Everyone in the Philippines were super nice and very friendly. Even my Flip friends here! I LOVE to travel. And I would definitely consider countryhopping in Asia w/ you! Ahaha. I've even considered taking a couple months of too.. ahaha. Here are some sites to look at for some cheap travel: 1. Malaysia Airlines http://us.malaysiaairlines.com/ 2. Air Asia http://www.airasia.com/site/en/home.jsp 3. Jet Star Asia http://jetstarasia.com/index.php I know someone that recently booked via the above .. she booked flights to six countries for $1200! Cheaper than the base $1399 for the All Asia Pass BEFORE taxes (below): 1.http://us.malaysiaairlines.com/mys/...otions/aap.html 2.http://www.cathay-usa.com/offers/aap/offer.asp Maybe in a couple of years!

Don't encourage her.







Oh, and it's Christina with a C

B.U.L.L.S.H.I.T

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yea flips chicks are and always will be at the top of my list..

wish i can go back to highschool, literally all my hs friends were flip, and just recently i've started seeing them randomly all over the place. i guess im so flip, i even have a barong =T lol don't ask how...i really don't know

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Originally posted by ravensyz Kris, I agree with you. Everyone in the Philippines were super nice and very friendly. Even my Flip friends here! I LOVE to travel. And I would definitely consider countryhopping in Asia w/ you! Ahaha. I've even considered taking a couple months of too.. ahaha. Here are some sites to look at for some cheap travel: 1. Malaysia Airlines http://us.malaysiaairlines.com/ 2. Air Asia http://www.airasia.com/site/en/home.jsp 3. Jet Star Asia http://jetstarasia.com/index.php I know someone that recently booked via the above .. she booked flights to six countries for $1200! Cheaper than the base $1399 for the All Asia Pass BEFORE taxes (below): 1.http://us.malaysiaairlines.com/mys/...otions/aap.html 2.http://www.cathay-usa.com/offers/aap/offer.asp Maybe in a couple of years!

Wow, thanks for the info! My dad actually has an apt in Shanghai, so we'd have a place to stay there. My stepsis is in HK, and the other side of my family is scattered throughout the PI. Sadly, I haven't been to the PI in 17 years! My mom's not keen on going back supposedly for "safety" reasons.

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy Don't encourage her.

lol any of my friends that go hate coming back... but I think that's the nature of people who enjoy travel. When I was backpacking in Europe, I seriously contemplated cashing in my return ticket and being a vagabond taking waitressing jobs to support my travels.

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Originally posted by kid nyce i guess im so flip, i even have a barong =T lol don't ask how...i really don't know

You're an honorary Flip haha it's all about soul

EDIT: Also, obviously I have family in Taiwan too =) I'm an Asian mutt!

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Originally posted by ravensyz Hi Blake - I can relate to that what you're saying. My photography professor, who is black, we conversed about that subject. He told me some stories, about how it was back then and his first hand experiences .. so yeah, definitely a touchy subject! understood! btw - nice briefly meeting you at sasha!

Oh that was YOU!? Cool. It was nice meeting you as well. You asked if I had a favorite DJ and I defaulted to Armin but after giving it some thought I'd have to agree with you. I have no favorite. Lots of DJ's and producers are good at spinning and producing in their own ways. ESPECIALLY after Sasha's set (my first Sasha set) I definately couldn't compare someone like him or Satoshi to Armin. The great DJ's are all good in their own right at what they do. Speaking of which, I'm anticipating Armin and the rest of the summers upcoming events . See you there on the 8th yes?

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Originally posted by trancinchink rofl.. so funny. u guys talkin bout nah-gu. oh by the way, nah-gu, could also mean "that" referring to a specific thing. anyways... nothing to be afraid of in china..., i guess the non-english thing is a definitely a big factor though. i can still sorta get by with my broken mandarin... haha. the only thing about china is that media and news is still somewhat censored there and u definitely have to watch what you say about the government. other than that... it feels pretty much normal. as for taiwan... if and of u guys are ever thinking bout goin there... damn, it'll lead for some good times... and good food. i saw sasha there for new years 2003, definitely one of my best parties i've ever been to.. they know whats up with the friggin lights and lasers... haha.

Cool. I'll keep you and a few other ppl in mind if I ever plan on going there LOL. I hear it's not all that expensive. Before it was totally off my list ... a place I'd only wish to go, but now I'll look up flight prices and whatnot.

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Originally posted by ravensyz Kris, I agree with you. Everyone in the Philippines were super nice and very friendly. Even my Flip friends here! I LOVE to travel. And I would definitely consider countryhopping in Asia w/ you! Ahaha. I've even considered taking a couple months of too.. ahaha. Here are some sites to look at for some cheap travel: 1. Malaysia Airlines http://us.malaysiaairlines.com/ 2. Air Asia http://www.airasia.com/site/en/home.jsp 3. Jet Star Asia http://jetstarasia.com/index.php I know someone that recently booked via the above .. she booked flights to six countries for $1200! Cheaper than the base $1399 for the All Asia Pass BEFORE taxes (below): 1.http://us.malaysiaairlines.com/mys/...otions/aap.html 2.http://www.cathay-usa.com/offers/aap/offer.asp Maybe in a couple of years!

omg that sounds great!!! ugh not sure if i can EVER afford a trip like that...still looking to go abroad for the first time in my life...-__- but have FUNNNNN!!! lolz well...if anyone's up for the trip though, tis Xtina, thats for sure

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Originally posted by trancinchink as for taiwan... if and of u guys are ever thinking bout goin there... damn, it'll lead for some good times... and good food. i saw sasha there for new years 2003, definitely one of my best parties i've ever been to.. they know whats up with the friggin lights and lasers... haha.

oh mann my parents are originally from Taiwan...and ive only been there like ONCE in my entire life..at 9 yrs old. jesus i should be ashamed of myself for not going back more often. Yeah I heard there are some amazing spots out there

i went to the philippines back in october because my brother was getting married there (he married a girl from the philippines). I didn't get to go clubbing there unfortunately but when I'd ask people and tell them the kind of music i'm into they all told me to go to Embassy

My favorite area of Manila was Makati, I felt less like a tourist there because a lot of the places we'd go people would litterally stare at me and point, which got pretty depressing after a while. I'm not retarded or anything, just obviously not Filipino

My favorite part of the trip overall was when I got to visit Boracay Island! ahhh anyone who goes to the philippines and loves the beach MUST go to Boracay. I remember being at a bar there one night and hearing some tracks from Markus Schulz, Armin and tiesto haha. that made it all ok

furthermore, I don't think i'd go back there... Simply because I didn't feel comfortable there, I was there for 4 weeks and I just got really depressed. I'm glad I got the experience but a bunch of personal factors made the trip kinda suck for me

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Originally posted by kid nyce B.U.L.L.S.H.I.T .... yea flips chicks are and always will be at the top of my list.. wish i can go back to highschool, literally all my hs friends were flip, and just recently i've started seeing them randomly all over the place. i guess im so flip, i even have a barong =T lol don't ask how...i really don't know

what is bullshit? i dont get it.

i dont knwo what a barong is but ive been to a bario where they roast a pig and eat MAD food.

then i dated a flip girl and her brothers were all over me watching my every move. the one bro turned out to be gay and was always wanting to hang out with me.

you dont find ANY openly gay people in korea. nor do you find transvestites.

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Originally posted by illmaticnyc you dont find ANY openly gay people in korea. nor do you find transvestites.

That's quite an overgeneralized blanket statement you're making. Believe it or not there are gay people anywhere in the world and underground gay parties hosted in Seoul. As for tranvestites/ transexuals, Ha Ri-su is quite the celebrity all over Asia.

And it's gyopo, not gyokpo.

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