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Posted by Cosmic Fur on Jun-28-2006 21:02:

This law deals with expanded driveways, not creating new ones though.

And are there really houses with no driveways at all? Considering in Canada it's impossible to get around without having a car, paying an extra 80/month just to park your car really sucks.


Posted by TO guy on Jun-28-2006 21:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Time2Burn
Yeah not well explained I agree.

OK Scenario:

Family X has 1 car but no driveway on their property. They are forced to park on the street where they would have to pay for a monthly parking permit. One day they decide that they are going to convert their small front lawn into a "driveway" so they no longer have to worry about street parking/tickets/permits. So they get all the interlocking brick done and even buy some tar so they can create an incline at the curb for their car toi roll up on. Then one day I drive up and park infornt of this make shift driveway and they freak out cause I'm blocking them in. I say "FUCK YOU" cause one can't just decide to make a driveway entrance at a whim without zoning approval.


ahhh, I see, but if there already is a driveway there, and all they do is extend it a bit (not at the street, but like in the middle (like after the sidewalk....)) then they won't take away any extra street parking, and will in fact, make one more street spot available.


Posted by TO guy on Jun-28-2006 21:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
This law deals with expanded driveways, not creating new ones though.

And are there really houses with no driveways at all? Considering in Canada it's impossible to get around without having a car, paying an extra 80/month just to park your car really sucks.


there are lots.


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Jun-28-2006 21:03:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
It's funny cause it's true. Pretty soon we'll need special permits to take a dump, and a seperate permit to take a piss. If we don't then our Big Brother neighbours, who have nothing better to do than indulge in OUR own personal lives, will call the police on us and you will get fined for taking an illegal shit.


Coincidentally, I'm reading 1984 right now. Except in Canada, your own neighbour is the telescreen.


Posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* on Jun-28-2006 21:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
And are there really houses with no driveways at all? Considering in Canada it's impossible to get around without having a car, paying an extra 80/month just to park your car really sucks.


The majority of people I know that have lived in Toronto for a few years (my brother living there for about 7 now) have never had a car and get around fine. If he wants to travel somewhere, he rents a car.

And yes there are PLENTY of houses with no driveways. Even in Windsor.


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Jun-28-2006 21:13:

/me runs out and hugs his driveway.


Posted by Time2Burn on Jun-28-2006 21:14:

quote:
Originally posted by TO guy
ahhh, I see, but if there already is a driveway there, and all they do is extend it a bit (not at the street, but like in the middle (like after the sidewalk....)) then they won't take away any extra street parking, and will in fact, make one more street spot available.


I would still have a problem if expansion meant widening the driveway so two cars can sit beside each other. Legnthening the driveway is a whole nother story.

It also totally depends on 'hood you live in. I live downtown where the lots are very close together with semi-detached or fully attached housing. Street parking is valuble here and lots of home owners do not have a driveway.I think its selfish for a home owner to take away a spot from the street.


Posted by VERTiG0 on Jun-28-2006 21:20:

Anybody that has an existing driveway and covers their front lawn to make it a driveway as well is a stupid douchebag anyway.


Posted by VERTiG0 on Jun-28-2006 21:22:

quote:
Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~*
What the hell? I thought it was stupid that you can't park on the street in Cambridge over night IN THE SUMMER due to SNOW plows...but this? This is just ridiculus. It's your own fucking property!!


Mississauga has the same law we do. Sam got a ticket for it last Saturday/Sunday.

It's not just Cambridge@


Posted by TO guy on Jun-28-2006 21:23:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
Mississauga has the same law we do. Sam got a ticket for it last Saturday/Sunday.

It's not just Cambridge@


You can't park anywhere overnight without a permit.


Posted by dallastar on Jun-28-2006 21:24:

Re: Illegal to park on your own driveway?

quote:
Originally posted by TO guy
This one's insane.

from citynews.ca
quote:
New Markham Law Makes It Illegal For Homeowners To Park On Own Driveways
Wednesday June 28, 2006
It's an idea only politicians could endorse - making it illegal to park in your own driveway.
But it's now the official rule in Markham, where leaving your car on part of your own property can result in you getting a ticket.

Local councillors passed the regulation Tuesday night, banning any expanded driveways in the city and issuing a warning to those whose parking space currently covers more than 75 percent of their front yard.

If they leave their cars on that extra width, they'll be issued tickets for the offence. And fines could range as high as $1,500.

Under the changes, the maximum allowed measurement of a driveway is the width of a garage door plus an additional two metres. Or it could be 6.1 metres, but only if at least 40 percent of their yard is devoted to green space.

And they'll also be tagged if they park on the street overnight without a permit - a license that costs at least $70 a month.

The plan is designed to prevent Markham from turning into a paved over concrete jungle. It's estimated there are at least 17,000 expanded driveways in the area, where parking is tight. But when council refused to exempt those who already had their space expanded, it raised a furor among voters.

CityNews first told you about the plan last April. And residents weren't happy about it. "It's absolutely insane, asinine," fumed Peter Sommer, one of those affected. "Nobody can understand the logic of what these people are trying to do."

"What was the big problem?" railed one homeowner as he addressed town councillors in a meeting, desperately trying to get them to reconsider. "Somebody sitting at home was complaining that somebody else's driveway was bothering them? Why can't they mind their own business?"

But from now on, they'll be minding other people's business. And it could cost them all.

Officials insist they'll issue warnings at first, before seriously enforcing the law in 2008.


SO STUPID!


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Jun-28-2006 21:25:

Yep. My mom forgot to move her car to the driveway once. Got a ticket that very same night. I ahve no idea how they got her - I've never ever seen a cop patrolling my street.


Posted by HypnotEyez on Jun-28-2006 21:26:

definitely NOT ever moving to Markham


Posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* on Jun-28-2006 21:26:

quote:
Originally posted by TO guy
You can't park anywhere overnight without a permit.


You can in Windsor.


Posted by loca on Jun-28-2006 21:28:

quote:
Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~*
What the hell? I thought it was stupid that you can't park on the street in Cambridge over night IN THE SUMMER due to SNOW plows...but this? This is just ridiculus. It's your own fucking property!!


No shit!! It's your OWN property that you have most likely paid for or are in the process of paying for and you can't do what you want with it??? What the fack ever!

quote:
Originally posted by weema
Welcome to communist Canada, the great wall of Canada to be completed in the year 2020.



sadly that's what it's starting to sound like


Posted by VERTiG0 on Jun-28-2006 21:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Yep. My mom forgot to move her car to the driveway once. Got a ticket that very same night. I ahve no idea how they got her - I've never ever seen a cop patrolling my street.


Cops don't do it, parking enforcement people do.


Posted by StereoPrincess on Jun-28-2006 22:01:

hmm, are they going to make people have perfect grass and tulips every year?


Posted by Jem_hadar on Jun-28-2006 22:02:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
+1

It's my property, I should be able to do whatever the fuck I want on it.



There's where I stand! I bought that property. Sorry that my neighbours dont like my property w/o grass, but you know what, sorry, IT'S *MY* land do with as I see fit! That's why I bought it in the first place!

Disgusting all these new laws and regulations that seem to pop up! Fack.


Posted by Jem_hadar on Jun-28-2006 22:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Time2Burn
Yeah not well explained I agree.

OK Scenario:

Family X has 1 car but no driveway on their property. They are forced to park on the street where they would have to pay for a monthly parking permit. One day they decide that they are going to convert their small front lawn into a "driveway" so they no longer have to worry about street parking/tickets/permits. So they get all the interlocking brick done and even buy some tar so they can create an incline at the curb for their car toi roll up on. Then one day I drive up and park infornt of this make shift driveway and they freak out cause I'm blocking them in. I say "FUCK YOU" cause one can't just decide to make a driveway entrance at a whim without zoning approval.


quote:
Originally posted by Time2Burn
I think its selfish for a home owner to take away a spot from the street.


^^ Thats all a very good point. IF your expanded driveway is preventing other cars from parking legitametly on the side of the road, then that's not fair.

Its your property, park on it, but don't expect the right to have all other vehicles who want to park on the street have to now ensure they they aren't blocking you in from ur "new" "expanded" parking lawn space.


Posted by Jayx1 on Jun-28-2006 22:12:

Everytime i pose the question "whats next" when i hear of another stupid and intrusive law, sadly im quickly answered.

And of course the usual suspects around here are supporting it. I wonder how they sleep at night knowing that something they did that day surely must have had some sort of negative impact on someone, somewhere!!

Coming soon, no smoking in your own house or outside. Mark my words...

Property rights? (or any rights) in canada? Think again!

BTW did you know you need a permit to cut down a tree on your own property??? How about this, if you dont want trees cut down on a property than the crown shouldnt have sold it to a private entity in the first place!


Posted by Misanthrope on Jun-28-2006 22:14:

quote:
Originally posted by El Kay Dee
*paging JayX1's plane ticket out of here*




ridiculous nonetheless



dials citytv, cityhall, metro police to warn them that Zanta and Jaxy1 are heading towards cityhall and they are not happy.

potential batman movie?

oh my gosh


Posted by Misanthrope on Jun-28-2006 22:19:

apparently it's illegal to park in stingray's.


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Jun-28-2006 22:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Misanthrope


dials citytv, cityhall, metro police to warn them that Zanta and Jaxy1 are heading towards cityhall and they are not happy.

potential batman movie?

oh my gosh



Mona, you're my friend and all, but that post was retarded.


Posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* on Jun-28-2006 22:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
BTW did you know you need a permit to cut down a tree on your own property??? How about this, if you dont want trees cut down on a property than the crown shouldnt have sold it to a private entity in the first place!


It's funny that you bring this up. B/c I did know this. The funny thing to me is that I live in an area where there was forest and trees everywhere when I was growing up. About 10 years ago they cut down a HUGE area where I used to go wandering and riding my bike down all kinds of paths near my house to build new houses.

My house is on a street where you can only turn one direction (the other area wasn't finished and was all forest)...just a couple days ago they started tearing down all the trees to build more street. I didn't realize how much it really meant to me until a couple of days ago when I saw it actually happen. I wish I had taken a picture of it...and now I'll never get the chance.

The city has all this free reign to cut down the forests etc. near my house...even if all the neighbours protest, but I have to get a PERMIT to cut down a tree on my own property? Bull shit. Free country my ass. (Wait I take that back...I'm thankful for a lot of the freedoms and rights we have...but these new laws and bans just piss me off. They're taking our freedoms away a little bit at a time).


Posted by malek on Jun-28-2006 22:41:

"parking on the street overnight is illegal"



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