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Posted by sykadelik on Jul-02-2006 10:42:

England weren't good enough to progress, plain and simple.

I feel a lot better with Brazil going out at the same stage as us though.


Posted by Coup on Jul-02-2006 12:09:

The hatred in the pub for ronaldo was off the scale.

Having seen a slo-mo of the "stamp" - appears to me that rooney got in a tangle with the two players and basically landed his foot on him, i dont believe there was any intent to do it.

On the whole it was a shoddy world cup. Lampard had a shocker. The Theo Walcott / Defoe situation proved us all right, and Sven wrong.

Atleast we've finally seen what Hargreaves is all about, but then if Sven hadnt made a career of putting him on with 20mins left at totally the wrong time, might have seen that long ago.


Posted by sykadelik on Jul-02-2006 12:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Coup
On the whole it was a shoddy world cup. Lampard had a shocker. The Theo Walcott / Defoe situation proved us all right, and Sven wrong.


I fully believe that the next tournament will be walcott and rooney up front. I don't think Sven made a mistake, not sure there was any need for another striker in any of the games. Besides it will have been invaluable experience for him.


Posted by shades_of_gray on Jul-02-2006 13:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Coup


Having seen a slo-mo of the "stamp" - appears to me that rooney got in a tangle with the two players and basically landed his foot on him, i dont believe there was any intent to do it.


On the whole it was a shoddy world cup. Lampard had a shocker..


Atleast we've finally seen what Hargreaves is all about,




I agree with all 3 of these comments,


The reason why Hargreaves got slated before hand is because he plays for Bayern Munich, and people here dont get to see him play week in week out, so he dosnt get the exposure in England. and they dont know what he's all about and there quick to judge the lad.

I Thought he worked his ass off, ran after everything, hounded players, sure he gives away the odd foul or two, but his work rate was brilliant, and i was so happy for him when he scored his penalty.


Posted by scAza on Jul-02-2006 13:11:

This is nothing new, Ronaldo has always been a sly scheming greasy cheating prick.

England lost because our best crop of players to choose from in 40 years was not used properly by a terrible manager. He didn't even pick the right squad, never mind pick the right players in each match. He had no clue what his best formation and tactics were.

True there were some shite performances by individual players but there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Sven well and truly fucked it all up.

So many questions that will never be answered. Why the fuck was he given such an easy ride in that press conference this morning?

Ah well, back to supporting my real team, Liverpool...


Posted by isoterra on Jul-02-2006 13:37:

quote:
Originally posted by zag2me
Ronaldo should be sacked on the spot. The italians did it for that korean player after he knocked them out of the last world cup.

I will personally deliver his p45 to his doorstep if they want!


everyone who's saying this forgets alex ferguson is scottish, and consequently won't give a shit


Posted by scAza on Jul-02-2006 17:45:

^they don't its because he won't be able to keep Rooney and Ronaldo happy together....


Posted by The Soundman on Jul-02-2006 23:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Frase
hardly ronaldos fault, other portugese players were just as frustrating. All boils down to a shit formation & a shit performance


And a shit manager that is about as inspired as watching paint dry. In fact, watching paint dry is more exciting than Sven!!!


Posted by Coup on Jul-03-2006 05:22:

quote:
Originally posted by The Soundman
And a shit manager that is about as inspired as watching paint dry. In fact, watching paint dry is more exciting than Sven!!!

Would be nice if he didnt wear a funeral suit every match.
30c and hes wearing a shirt and tie...


Posted by gatecrasher on Jul-03-2006 09:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Coup
The hatred in the pub for ronaldo was off the scale.

Having seen a slo-mo of the "stamp" - appears to me that rooney got in a tangle with the two players and basically landed his foot on him, i dont believe there was any intent to do it.




U are talkin crap, he knew wot he was doing and completely meant it. Lets face it he has done it before, he is not this world beating unbelievable player u think he is, ur media build up players to god like status when in fact this guy is 20 and done not very much in his career so far....


Face it England r shit, they have good players indiviually but they do not play as a team....


Posted by Vandict on Jul-03-2006 09:57:

quote:
Originally posted by gatecrasher
U are talkin crap, he knew wot he was doing and completely meant it. Lets face it he has done it before, he is not this world beating unbelievable player u think he is, ur media build up players to god like status when in fact this guy is 20 and done not very much in his career so far....


Face it England r shit, they have good players indiviually but they do not play as a team....


ur location says it all


Posted by gatecrasher on Jul-03-2006 10:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Vandict
ur location says it all



Wots that got to do with it, everything I said is true


Posted by Vandict on Jul-03-2006 10:07:

quote:
Originally posted by gatecrasher
Wots that got to do with it, everything I said is true


i'm guessing ur not an England fan by your location, ur comments r hardly constructive r they???


Posted by gatecrasher on Jul-03-2006 10:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Vandict
i'm guessing ur not an England fan by your location, ur comments r hardly constructive r they???


Anybody who knows anythin about football wud realise wot a poor team England are, wot has being constructive got to do with it, I am sayin it like it is - u lot r rubbish


Posted by Vandict on Jul-03-2006 10:30:

quote:
Originally posted by gatecrasher
Anybody who knows anythin about football wud realise wot a poor team England are, wot has being constructive got to do with it, I am sayin it like it is - u lot r rubbish


ur talking like a 5 year old kid in a playground, England are hardly shit, shit teams don't qualify for the World Cup. England are just very average, the trouble is the press and expectation levels of the English public are higher than the quality of the team, we build it up and build it up just for it all to get too shit as it always does!!!


Posted by gatecrasher on Jul-03-2006 10:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Vandict
ur talking like a 5 year old kid in a playground, England are hardly shit, shit teams don't qualify for the World Cup. England are just very average, the trouble is the press and expectation levels of the English public are higher than the quality of the team, we build it up and build it up just for it all to get too shit as it always does!!!


Yeh I wud agree with u there - ur media is such a problem, I wudnt mind seeing England win if it wasnt for having to hear about it for the next 40 years - u have good players but they just dont play well as a team


Posted by Vandict on Jul-03-2006 10:42:

quote:
Originally posted by gatecrasher
Yeh I wud agree with u there - ur media is such a problem, I wudnt mind seeing England win if it wasnt for having to hear about it for the next 40 years - u have good players but they just dont play well as a team


yeah i get pissed off about the team of 66, obviously i can appreciate them as they won us the World Cup but that was 40 years ago, England have to stop riding on that wave, i want them to at least win the World Cup once in my lifetime and be remembered for now, not 40 years ago, other nations don't do this!!!


Posted by Coup on Jul-03-2006 12:43:

quote:
Originally posted by gatecrasher
U are talkin crap, he knew wot he was doing and completely meant it. Lets face it he has done it before, he is not this world beating unbelievable player u think he is, ur media build up players to god like status when in fact this guy is 20 and done not very much in his career so far....


Face it England r shit, they have good players indiviually but they do not play as a team....

Do you really think that Rooney who rushed to become fit for this tournament, would deliberately stamp on a player 5 feet from the referee in the q/final of the world cup? dont be a pleb.

If you watch a real time reply you can see hes getting tangled up fighting for the ball. Instead of doing what most people do and perform a dying swan act on the floor, Rooney stayed up and battled for the ball, which is what makes him such a good player. Legs got tangled, balance was knocked and in an attempt to stand, landed his leg on RC, who was in a heap on the floor. If players werent obsessed with causing a huge drama everytime someone makes a tackle then chances are he'd still be on the field.

If Rooney was going to get "revenge" for the tackle last season he wouldnt do it in a q/final.


Posted by gibbo on Jul-03-2006 15:59:

quote:
Originally posted by gatecrasher
Anybody who knows anythin about football wud realise wot a poor team England are, wot has being constructive got to do with it, I am sayin it like it is - u lot r rubbish


I'm sorry but what a pile of utter dogshit this statement is. We maybe didnt play that well for some of the world cup but the players we have make us a very powerful team. Also anyone not blind would realise we outplayed Portugal for an hour with only 10 men. We also qualified easily. Sven is mostly to blame with his tactics but we are hardly shit and a comment like that is just something i would expect from a bitter scotsman with their bunch of nothing achieving never qualifying sporting no-marks.


Posted by shades_of_gray on Jul-03-2006 17:56:

There was just one thing that really pissed me off in this world cup, is the ammount of pussy ass diving, and crying.....for fuck sake, they cant hide, 40 thousand people see them do it, and the slow mo replays with catch there every move.

I thought what Henry did was awful, which resulted in France getting a free kick out side the box, and them scoring.


Can everybody remember Rivaldo near the corner flag in the last world cup?

Stick them on a Rugby pitch, that will sort them out.


Posted by Rick D on Jul-03-2006 18:25:

I am all for having live replays in the stadiums for the officials to watch before making their decision, there were so many poor ones in that game, its unbelievable. Dives left right and centre, the players wouldnt do it if they knew that it was gonna be shown to the whole world before the ref makes his decision

I thought england played alrite for 10 men, just didnt finish well enough. And, lets be honest, once the whistle was blown for the end of extra time, there was only gonna be one outcome, we cant take pens for shit


Posted by Vandict on Jul-03-2006 20:11:

quote:
Originally posted by shades_of_gray


Can everybody remember Rivaldo near the corner flag in the last world cup?



yeah that was fuckin classic, the ball was passed to him and it gently hit him in the stomach, and he when down like a bag of shit holding his face, resulting in getting his opponent sent off!!!!


Posted by _Ocean_Drive_ on Jul-03-2006 20:44:

I keep watching the replay over and over again, and still can't work out if it was intentional or not. I don't think it was just a case of Rooney regaining his balance. But I agree Ronaldo was complete idiot for interfering and has such a huge ego I'm surprised he was able to fit it in the stadium.

BUT, with regard to England, they were poor, very poor. We can blame Sven all we want, but doesn't change the fact our team can't take penalties. We're not as good as we think I'm sorry to say. Penalties are not about luck or chance. They're about nerve, skill, confidence and determination. Why do England never do well on penalties? Well just look at every other team we've taken them against. Other players walk up with such confidence, England players just dread it and crumble under the pressure.

And another thing, England exuded such complacency it was disgusting. "This is our year" and "They believe they can do it" from the press and squad alike. France and its press always play down their chances and where are they at the moment? For me, there was too much arrogance and high expectations, and the media are partly to blame. When we beat Germany 5-1 in Munich, Sven was 'amazing' and now he's 'rubbish' He has the best overall record of any England manager in recent years, 3 competitive defeats and 10 draws.

Owen Hargreaves was the only player who showed guts and determination, and it was interesting that his mentality showed up the rest of the teams'. Perhaps the Bundesliga has given him an expereince which the Premiership can't, but it showed. Gerrard was a dissappointment and I was annoyed that Walcott wasn't played.

/rant


Posted by gatecrasher on Jul-03-2006 21:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Coup
Do you really think that Rooney who rushed to become fit for this tournament, would deliberately stamp on a player 5 feet from the referee in the q/final of the world cup? dont be a pleb.



Yip because he is that stupid


Posted by gatecrasher on Jul-03-2006 22:01:

quote:
Originally posted by gibbo
I'm sorry but what a pile of utter dogshit this statement is. We maybe didnt play that well for some of the world cup but the players we have make us a very powerful team. Also anyone not blind would realise we outplayed Portugal for an hour with only 10 men. We also qualified easily. Sven is mostly to blame with his tactics but we are hardly shit and a comment like that is just something i would expect from a bitter scotsman with their bunch of nothing achieving never qualifying sporting no-marks.



First time u have played well in the tournament then - I am not Scottish by the way, I am from Northern Ireland - maybe u remember we beat ur sorry lot in Belfast - wots ur excuse for that defeat - u must have one cause u are such a good side, it couldnt possibly b because some team was BETTER than you on the day


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