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Posted by TweeK on Jul-08-2006 23:19:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
Vibrasphere - Landmark !

Crap they sound the same to me.

Ticon good stuff though

Posted by Derivative on Jul-09-2006 01:34:

Im not really that big on Ticon, but Vibrasphere is consistantly amazing me with their work. So much so its influencing how my own music pans out.

Posted by TweeK on Jul-10-2006 03:20:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_palm
any of you heard chichen chaker? is that psy or goa?

Dont you mean "Chicken Shaker" by Ticon

Posted by DJ Shibby on Jul-10-2006 03:30:

Israeli psy is the best music I know.

Make sure you all check out Wrecked Machines, The First Stone, Highcosmos, AND Bamboo Forest.

Posted by Shankar on Jul-10-2006 06:05:

on the same note, have you seen Skazi's new Pepsi campaign?

http://www.layla.co.il/campaign/pepsi/

Skazi and Pepsi? Who would ever guess?!!

Posted by tomoyo on Jul-10-2006 15:28:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
it's also known as "full on psytrance". It's energetic, more easy accessible and often loaded with melodies. It origins from Israel where it also is most popular. Example of producers: Astrix, Infected Mushroom, Skazi, Xerox, Melicia, Space Buddha.

SAMPLE

Correct me if I am wrong, but I always saw full-on as the harder side of psy with [random] lot of sounds and no melody.

Posted by RebeL9 on Jul-10-2006 18:11:

quote:
Originally posted by tomoyo
Correct me if I am wrong, but I always saw full-on as the harder side of psy with [random] lot of sounds and no melody.

you are wrong. full on is the style with most melodies within psytrance.

Posted by DJ Shibby on Jul-10-2006 20:45:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
you are wrong. full on is the style with most melodies within psytrance.

the melodies are irrelevent

it's mostly the bassline that makes a track full on.

think machine gun basslines; those driving basslines that, even at 145 bpm, seem so much faster and crazier.

Posted by cyzum on Jul-10-2006 20:55:

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Posted by PETRAN on Jul-11-2006 03:18:

Hmmm, When i think of psy-trance i think of...

Juno Reactor
Total Eclipse
Etnica
Hallucinogen
Transwave
X-Dream
Prana
Shakta
Doof
etc...

when i think of israeli psy-trance i think of

Astral projection
MFG
Mystica etc...

What happened to this psy-trance???Although i'm not gonna listen to this stuff now...they used to make me dizzy back in the 90s lol...

Also... If someone could suggest me some really good progpsy albums by Son Kite, Vibrasphere, Human Blue and stuff...also other progpsy bands/projects/names. Although i find it a bit boring though...

Posted by RebeL9 on Jul-11-2006 08:54:

quote:
Originally posted by PETRAN
Hmmm, When i think of psy-trance i think of...

Juno Reactor
Total Eclipse
Etnica
Hallucinogen
Transwave
X-Dream
Prana
Shakta
Doof
etc...

when i think of israeli psy-trance i think of

Astral projection
MFG
Mystica etc...

What happened to this psy-trance???Although i'm not gonna listen to this stuff now...they used to make me dizzy back in the 90s lol...

Also... If someone could suggest me some really good progpsy albums by Son Kite, Vibrasphere, Human Blue and stuff...also other progpsy bands/projects/names. Although i find it a bit boring though...

what about Vibrasphere's album Archipelagio and Human Blue's album Electric Roundabout? And don't forget Ja�as amazing album Fiction.

Posted by RebeL9 on Jul-11-2006 08:56:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Shibby
the melodies are irrelevent

it's mostly the bassline that makes a track full on.

think machine gun basslines; those driving basslines that, even at 145 bpm, seem so much faster and crazier.

yes its the bassline. but full on also happens to be the stuff with most melodies.

Posted by RebeL9 on Jul-11-2006 11:48:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_palm
please let me know which track this is and where i can buy it as mp3? its so sick good. if this is psy, psy might be what trance used to be. damn didnt know these tracks exists anymore.

it's Vibrasphere - Morning Breeze from their latest album Archipelagio. You can get it off Beatport or Audiojelly. or check out their website www.vibrasphere.com

Posted by tomoyo on Jul-11-2006 16:07:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_palm
please let me know which track this is and where i can buy it as mp3? its so sick good. if this is psy, psy might be what trance used to be. damn didnt know these tracks exists anymore.

that doesn't sound like psy. just prog. and psy won't ever be like trance was (at it's roots I mean). unless we get a miracle.

what other psy subgenres there are aside of goa, full on, psytekk and dark?

Posted by RebeL9 on Jul-11-2006 16:15:

quote:
Originally posted by tomoyo
that doesn't sound like psy. just prog. and psy won't ever be like trance was (at it's roots I mean). unless we get a miracle.

ever heard of progpsy? It's been quite big since a couple of years with labels such as Iboga, Spiral Trax, Tribal Vision etc.

Posted by PETRAN on Jul-11-2006 20:46:

quote:
what about Vibrasphere's album Archipelagio and Human Blue's album Electric Roundabout? And don't forget Ja�as amazing album Fiction.

Thanks, i'm gonna chech these albums ASAP.In a matter of fact i'm allready listening to samples from "Archipelago".It sounds good but a bit linear though.Does it evolve, are there any melodies and themes and stuff(lol, no i'm not listening to ASOT i just like "music") or just cool atmospheric trancey soundscapes?Is it like the "nasa" set(some light in the tunnel bla bla bla lol)?Also i don't find any big similarities between this "progpsy" stuff and the classic 90s psy-trance such as etnica, transwave, total eclipse,old juno reactor,doof,prana and stuff. These were faster, darker and noisy whereas progpsy is much more housey and cool.Why don't they call it "psychedelic house" lol?

Posted by apollo_144 on Jul-11-2006 21:10:

psytrance live acts should quit.

Posted by RebeL9 on Jul-11-2006 21:38:

quote:
Originally posted by PETRAN
Thanks, i'm gonna chech these albums ASAP.In a matter of fact i'm allready listening to samples from "Archipelago".It sounds good but a bit linear though.Does it evolve, are there any melodies and themes and stuff(lol, no i'm not listening to ASOT i just like "music") or just cool atmospheric trancey soundscapes?Is it like the "nasa" set(some light in the tunnel bla bla bla lol)?Also i don't find any big similarities between this "progpsy" stuff and the classic 90s psy-trance such as etnica, transwave, total eclipse,old juno reactor,doof,prana and stuff. These were faster, darker and noisy whereas progpsy is much more housey and cool.Why don't they call it "psychedelic house" lol?

thing is that many of the current progpsy producer did produce goa and psy trance back in the 90s. Check out Human Blue's album I.C.E. for instance. It's pure goa madness. And then compare it with his Electric Roundabout. He kept the melodies from the old sound and mixed it with progressive trance. It blends excellent.

Posted by linusson on Jul-11-2006 21:51:

Fractal Noise -LSD

This is good shit

Posted by Magnus on Jul-11-2006 21:54:

Another thread where everyone is arguing what type of psytrance is superior and people labeling certain styles as "cheesey." Just listen to what sounds good dammit. I personally love full on psy which many deem as lame and cheesey. Well its what I like. I don't go bashing on what you think in your mind is superior psy. We all like music of different kinds. Be respectful of other people's taste in music. I've typed this same message probably 5 times now in these same types of threads. If you want to see what kind of psy I like, click on the either thread link in my sig to see the tracklist. If you think full on is cheesey, then don't bother. To each his own. I also love a lot of progressive psytrance as well such as Lish, Yotopia, Vibrashpere, and Sun Control Species to name a few.

Posted by RebeL9 on Jul-11-2006 21:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Magnus
Another thread where everyone is arguing what type of psytrance is superior and people labeling certain styles as "cheesey." Just listen to what sounds good dammit. I personally love full on psy which many deem as lame and cheesey. Well its what I like. I don't go bashing on what you think in your mind is superior psy. We all like music of different kinds. Be respectful of other people's taste in music. I've typed this same message probably 5 times now in these same types of threads. If you want to see what kind of psy I like, click on the either thread link in my sig to see the tracklist. If you think full on is cheesey, then don't bother. To each his own.

all full on is not cheesy. Bamboo Forest, Electric Universe, Silicon Sound etc is not cheesy. BUT the israeli trend with cheesy songs in the songs is really killing the genre.
Especially after reading the comments on isratrance.com .

Posted by Magnus on Jul-11-2006 22:01:

Posted by Glassball on Jul-12-2006 07:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Magnus
Its out there but it seems to come in waves.

Totally right. Right now I think we're hittin a wave IMO. So many great albums recently out.. Enigmatic World Mexico, Electric Universe - Silence in Action, Optokoppler - Bugfix, and The Evolution Of Expanded Conciousness.

Posted by Axolotyl on Jul-12-2006 08:14:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
all full on is not cheesy. Bamboo Forest, Electric Universe, Silicon Sound etc is not cheesy. BUT the israeli trend with cheesy songs in the songs is really killing the genre.
Especially after reading the comments on isratrance.com .

lol... give it a rest I think this discussion has been had before

Listen to these albums and tell me full-on is cheesy and/or being killed by Israeli knockoffs. And these have all just been released in the past 2 months too.

http://www.saikosounds.com/english/...ase.asp?id=5763
http://www.saikosounds.com/english/...ase.asp?id=5752
http://www.saikosounds.com/english/...ase.asp?id=5896

Sorry I know you progheads love to bash the old dugga dugga basslines, but theres some fucking KILLER releases at the moment if you bother to look. Now behave and dont make me post up some dark full-on samples... I think your head might explode Rebel

quote:
Originally posted by Glassball
Totally right. Right now I think we're hittin a wave IMO. So many great albums recently out.. Enigmatic World Mexico, Electric Universe - Silence in Action, Optokoppler - Bugfix, and The Evolution Of Expanded Conciousness.

Yes, that Optokoppler album is insane, a read step forward for morning full on!!

Posted by RebeL9 on Jul-12-2006 08:27:

well apearantly something has happened to the israeli full on since over at isratrance.com the TOP3 labels which were elected for 2005 were all progpsy labels such as Iboga and Tribal Vision. This amongst hardcore full on ppl!
And many artists even openly say that israeli full on has gone way to samey and something new need to happen in the scene.

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