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Posted by Yohan on Feb-17-2008 19:21:

quote:
Originally posted by verndogs
please heckle that wuss known as Landon Donovan for me

fuck landycakes

looking forward to season opener on mar 29...

toronto fc takes over columbus... so far, around 1000 fans making the trip down to columbus.


Posted by Dj O'Callaghan on Feb-17-2008 23:16:

Re: Re: Re: MLS Soccer

quote:
Originally posted by bas

Anyway, I find it interesting that there are ALOT of soccer fans here at work (FOX Networks). My boss has a German national team scarf/banner thing on her door. Pretty cool


Errgghhh I wouldn't even wipe my arse with that banner.

I think you guys should look more towards modelling yourself on European football leagues. It'll catch on at some point, it's making the league more competative which helps.

Rivalries is another brilliant way to make sports more popular. Two teams in the same city or area will help that, the clubs and local press need to start gloating and taunting potential rivals. You can have low attendances all season but once there is a local derby you'll pack out stadiums and people will become more passionate about their team.


Posted by Yohan on Feb-18-2008 23:07:

Re: Re: Re: Re: MLS Soccer

quote:
Originally posted by Dj O'Callaghan
Errgghhh I wouldn't even wipe my arse with that banner.

I think you guys should look more towards modelling yourself on European football leagues. It'll catch on at some point, it's making the league more competative which helps.

Rivalries is another brilliant way to make sports more popular. Two teams in the same city or area will help that, the clubs and local press need to start gloating and taunting potential rivals. You can have low attendances all season but once there is a local derby you'll pack out stadiums and people will become more passionate about their team.

right now, MLS is doing all it can to have a basic foundation for it to last a long time. hence why there is salary cap and lots of restrictions. (reading all the mls rules is making my head spin)

but once the league becomes more profitable and more marketable, there will be more shift towards european model and get away from north american style sports league.

as for rivalries, it's very hard since teams are spread all over the continent. yeah, in europe, it's like an hour away for even smaller epl teams to play a rival team, but many teams are like hours away by flying to go to the next nearest city. hard to get excited about all that, esp since many teams are struggling to put 15000 fans for each game.

it's going to be a near miracle that toronto fans are going all the way to columbus in hundreds for opening day, because mls don't have this away support thing going, as listed above.

should be interesting what direction mls goes next few years


Posted by bas on Feb-18-2008 23:16:

Re: Re: Re: Re: MLS Soccer

quote:
Originally posted by verndogs
please heckle that wuss known as Landon Donovan for me

Heckle? I will straight up throw trash at fucking Donovan. I can't stand that gimp. The fact that he considers himself a world class striker is fucking comical.

quote:
Originally posted by Dj O'Callaghan
Rivalries is another brilliant way to make sports more popular. Two teams in the same city or area will help that, the clubs and local press need to start gloating and taunting potential rivals. You can have low attendances all season but once there is a local derby you'll pack out stadiums and people will become more passionate about their team.

There's only about two rivalries I can think of. Kansas City and someone...Colorado or something like that. And Galaxy and Chivas USA. But no one cares, although the players do try to make it interesting by playing dirty


Posted by Zewad on Feb-18-2008 23:45:

i gave up when the Tampa Mutiny folded ...

i mean we had Valdarama!..

tear


Posted by verndogs on Feb-19-2008 16:56:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MLS Soccer

quote:
Originally posted by bas
Heckle? I will straight up throw trash at fucking Donovan. I can't stand that gimp. The fact that he considers himself a world class striker is fucking comical.


That's music to my ears.


Posted by Eddie N MIAMI on Feb-19-2008 18:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Zewad
i gave up when the Tampa Mutiny folded ...

i mean we had Valdarama!..

tear


I liked going to Miami Fusion games once in a while(we had Valderama too!) my interest in the league slowly went away when they folded.

I also thought it was pretty retarded that they played their home games in Ft. Lauderdale.


Posted by chimera66 on Feb-19-2008 19:19:

give me time and i'll have an opinion...


Posted by verndogs on Feb-21-2008 07:25:

Re: Re: Re: Re: MLS Soccer

quote:
Originally posted by Dj O'Callaghan
Rivalries is another brilliant way to make sports more popular. Two teams in the same city or area will help that, the clubs and local press need to start gloating and taunting potential rivals. You can have low attendances all season but once there is a local derby you'll pack out stadiums and people will become more passionate about their team.


the rivalries are developing, even if a city currently has no team like Philly

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2...es_looking.html


We got the MLS version of Millwall coming soon!


Posted by OurManFlint on Feb-21-2008 11:58:

Re: Re: Re: Re: MLS Soccer

quote:
Originally posted by Dj O'Callaghan
Errgghhh I wouldn't even wipe my arse with that banner.

I think you guys should look more towards modelling yourself on European football leagues. It'll catch on at some point, it's making the league more competative which helps.

Rivalries is another brilliant way to make sports more popular. Two teams in the same city or area will help that, the clubs and local press need to start gloating and taunting potential rivals. You can have low attendances all season but once there is a local derby you'll pack out stadiums and people will become more passionate about their team.
You know, I read a pretty interesting artical in The Economist about how America has a fair system in it's sporting events despite its free trade and competitive nature in business. Yet Europe is the opposite, and although few teams can share in on the glory, they still have a free system in allowing the best players to be monopolized to certain teams based on money the team has.

BTW, I'm drunk, I hope this makes sense, if not, I will try to clarify tomorrow. Hopefully someone else has read the same artical.


Posted by verndogs on Feb-21-2008 14:13:

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quote:
Originally posted by OurManFlint
You know, I read a pretty interesting artical in The Economist about how America has a fair system in it's sporting events despite its free trade and competitive nature in business. Yet Europe is the opposite, and although few teams can share in on the glory, they still have a free system in allowing the best players to be monopolized to certain teams based on money the team has.

BTW, I'm drunk, I hope this makes sense, if not, I will try to clarify tomorrow. Hopefully someone else has read the same artical.


most coherent drunk post ever


Posted by Dj O'Callaghan on Feb-21-2008 22:09:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MLS Soccer

quote:
Originally posted by verndogs
the rivalries are developing, even if a city currently has no team like Philly

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2...es_looking.html


We got the MLS version of Millwall coming soon!


Brilliant stuff and good on them! I hope they should bin francises, keep teams local and build a sense of identity towards your clubs.

quote:
You know, I read a pretty interesting artical in The Economist about how America has a fair system in it's sporting events despite its free trade and competitive nature in business. Yet Europe is the opposite, and although few teams can share in on the glory, they still have a free system in allowing the best players to be monopolized to certain teams based on money the team has.


I can remember when Chelsea were shit and Stamford Bridge was like a glorified bikeshed, seriously in the early 90's I used to look at the fixture list and go 4-0 easy result, look at them now! A lot it is about investment unfortunatly but you still get moments of magic etc small clubs screwing over the big clubs.

Some teams have brilliant invividual players but they don't gel as unit when you don't have that your screwed.

The teams in the MLS need to start scouting around the local teams and set up academies invest in local talent. In return you could see vast improvement to the league in future seasons and to the national team.

Money has been both positive and negative in European football. Positives more talent better facilities, the negatives corperate culture and shit fans who sit there in silence.


Posted by verndogs on Feb-21-2008 22:30:

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quote:
Originally posted by Dj O'Callaghan
Brilliant stuff and good on them! I hope they should bin francises, keep teams local and build a sense of identity towards your clubs.



They just awarded Philly with the next MLS team. Oh this is going to be fun


Posted by jonze on Feb-22-2008 05:43:

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quote:
Originally posted by verndogs
They just awarded Philly with the next MLS team. Oh this is going to be fun





either the whole city will show up and boo or it will be a barren wasteland


Posted by Eddie N MIAMI on Feb-22-2008 05:45:

im still waiting for Wais views on the MLS.


Posted by chimera66 on Feb-22-2008 06:37:

Vern said I should take a look at this thread...anyhow in America I don't quite feel MLS will ever capture the general population as it is now. The dropoff in interest in the US is when kids are coordinated enough to swing a bat or throw a football. Until American society completely changes and / or MLS has a quality product they will fail to completely infiltrate the top sporting tier in the US. The League's attempts to drive interest although admirable will only get them so far...their push for the Hispanics will help but in no way will it help them "save" their League of sorts. Much has to be done on a grassroots level to build awareness and there need to be more inportant games on TV. Yeah everyone watches the World Cup but from that to MLS is just a joke...perhaps the MLS can set itself up as a minor league of sorts for European leagues. Fans will be able to watch up incoming talent and see a higher level of soccer rather than a League tutting itself as being a "major league" which we all know is not true.

that's all i got...plus all i really know is hockey so that's my $0.02 at ~2am.


Posted by Yohan on Feb-22-2008 17:44:

There are shitload of kids playing the game on the pitch... It's just keeping that interest going after college.


Posted by chimera66 on Feb-23-2008 02:52:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
There are shitload of kids playing the game on the pitch... It's just keeping that interest going after college.


it definitely loses a lot of steam into middle school and high school without a doubt. that's when kids start picking "their" sport.


Posted by Yohan on Apr-02-2008 06:28:

Strong indication that Laurent Robert is going to sign for Toronto FC, and not for DP either.

Also former Arsenal and Tottenham winger Rohan Ricketts on trial.

Exciting news!


Posted by verndogs on Apr-04-2008 05:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Yohan
Strong indication that Laurent Robert is going to sign for Toronto FC, and not for DP either.

Also former Arsenal and Tottenham winger Rohan Ricketts on trial.

Exciting news!


yeah, he's been signed


Beckham with his first goal of the season to help the LA Galaxy beat the Earthquakes

I'll eventually get into the fold of following the season.


Posted by sensorium on Apr-09-2008 22:46:

MLS player of the week:


Posted by Palladium on Apr-09-2008 22:50:

quote:
Originally posted by sensorium
MLS player of the week:


give him a break. the guy can't get used to drive on the left side of the truck


Posted by bas on Apr-09-2008 22:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Palladium
give him a break. the guy can't get used to drive on the left side of the truck

Victoria was pulled over as well a few times. One was on her stupid TV show


Posted by Yohan on Apr-10-2008 05:52:

Toronto has signed former MLS MVP Armado Guevara.

The pieces come together...


Posted by bas on May-04-2008 00:49:

Landon Donovan got MLS player of the month for 8 goals in 5 games. I've come to the conclusion that the biggest area in need of improvement in MLS is definitely defense. I just watched the Columbus v Kansas City game, I saw some of the biggest mistakes in defending ever


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