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Originally posted by guster Well.. Frank Zappa is the ultimate high "rock" music in my opinion. Other bands that seem stoner-ish to me.. The Shins Morcheeba M83 (more electronic that rock but.. yeah) Widespread Panic Oysterhead!! Pavement Radiohead Rogue Wave There ya go.

man do i miss oysterhead. probably one of the top 3 trios of all time for me, as short-lived as they were.

ozma - doubble donkey disc is a good stoner album

just a nice blend of rock with almost pre punk influences

good shit

In the 70's it was stoner rock, in the 2000's its called hippie jam bands. trance music for hippies. If you want music that goes well with smoking pot, this would be the genre for you. sigh. Someone mentioned Widespread Panic already.

String Cheese Incident
Phish
Galactic
Keller Williams
Ben Harper
Umphrey�s McGee

thats all i can think of atm that i have listened to personally and extensively. its nice music and all but it has no balls. thats why its good for pot smoking. not a good drug for social interaction, makes you a total dud with conversation skills, makes you want to just sit at home and waste life away, premature ejaculation, etc etc.

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Originally posted by stev�sto In the 70's it was stoner rock, in the 2000's its called hippie jam bands. trance music for hippies. If you want music that goes well with smoking pot, this would be the genre for you. sigh. Someone mentioned Widespread Panic already. String Cheese Incident Phish Galactic Keller Williams Ben Harper Umphrey�s McGee

No joke, especially when he plays burn one down. I had to see him live at one of his concerts before I realized he was black. From his sound I just always assumed he was white. Good tunes all the same.

I also agree that jam bands are jam bands and should not be called rock music at all. Much more folk and blues oriented.

Sublime is reggae. Ozma is Indie. Haha I know I sound like an ass but for some reason the term stoner rock just gets under my skin, even though I smoke a lot of dope.

not sure what this has to do with trance . . . but hippie or jam bands ARE NOT stoner rock.

Stoner rock is very slow, bluesly heavy metal with a big black sabbath influence taken to an extreme. Sleep is the ultimate stoner rock. Kyuss, Electric Wizard, and Clutch come to mind too. I probably like clutch the most, the rest is boring. And I'm a big stoner. Hearing some jackass drone on an A chord for 40 minutes ain't too thrilling, stoned or not. I prefer jungle when high, or maybe dub.


The mention of hippie rock reminds me of a joke though. "What did the hippie say when he ran out of pot?" "Why didn't anyone ever tell me the Grateful Dead suck?"

how about melodic stoner rock

For the clueless out there (many of you seemingly), stoner rock is an actual genre, so don't just name a list of bands you think you'd like while you're high.

Majutsu's definition is right. I don't really listen to any stoner rock except possibly Cathedral, who were originally a doom metal band but who may qualify as stoner/groove metal nowadays.

You should check out Cathedral anyway. They're badass.

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Originally posted by meneedit how about melodic stoner rock

The Flaming Lips are very melodic. Check out "Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots", haha weird title but awesome CD. Kind of quirky, dreamy, trippy and even beautiful at points.

LMFAO @ Majutsu and starglider... So sorry to offend the "stoner rock" elitists

Moe? maybe?

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Originally posted by Sykonee Well, apparently Tool are considered stoner rock... though more on a metal tip I guess. I'm always getting told I HAVE to listen to Tool stoned in order to comprehend the true intricacies of their music. Um... right... If I can't get such dudes to buy into that theory whenever I throw on some ambient dub, why the hell do they think I'll fall for it as well.

duuuuuuuude, you have to check out tool, and i'm not just saying that because its my fav band. But its not stoner rock, i'd call it progressive metal


stoner rock:
QOTSA / Desert sessions

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Originally posted by DJ RJT , "Californication" by the Chili Peppers, Incubus' "Morning View" and "Make Yourself,"

what tha crap ? its not stoner rock

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Originally posted by Spirit5 The Flaming Lips are very melodic. Check out "Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots", haha weird title but awesome CD. Kind of quirky, dreamy, trippy and even beautiful at points.

all the flaming lips albums are good for the most part... soft bulletin is my favourite, though it took a while to become palatable

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Originally posted by starglider For the clueless out there (many of you seemingly), stoner rock is an actual genre, so don't just name a list of bands you think you'd like while you're high. Majutsu's definition is right. I don't really listen to any stoner rock except possibly Cathedral, who were originally a doom metal band but who may qualify as stoner/groove metal nowadays. You should check out Cathedral anyway. They're badass.

im sorry but wouldnt "stoner rock" be considered any rock someone who is stoned listens to? thers not "MDMA dance music". or is there?

If you guys seriously think "Stoner Rock" is a genre, and that's the QOTSA are, my hat is off to you, you've officially created the single most asynine genre of music of all time... Come the fuck on, who are you guys trying to fool?

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Originally posted by stren duuuuuuuude, you have to check out tool, and i'm not just saying that because its my fav band. But its not stoner rock, i'd call it progressive metal

Yeah. Prog metal. I like me some prog rock, but since I never really got bit by the metal bug, I don't know if I could really stand to listen to it that much. One of these years perhaps.

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Originally posted by DJ RJT If you guys seriously think "Stoner Rock" is a genre, and that's the QOTSA are, my hat is off to you, you've officially created the single most asynine genre of music of all time... Come the fuck on, who are you guys trying to fool?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoner_rock

its as real as anything "progressive".

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Originally posted by RapidFire its as real as anything "progressive".

I don't disagree.

I really fucking hate genre titles.

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Originally posted by Lephaid all the flaming lips albums are good for the most part... soft bulletin is my favourite, though it took a while to become palatable

Cool, i'll have to check out their other ones. I only own "Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots" and love it.

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Originally posted by DJ RJT I don't disagree. I really fucking hate genre titles.

Regardless, can't you see the reason behind using a genre title, as a way of finding similar sounds.

Just because genres may be difficult to keep up with, or keep track of, is not reason for them not to serve a useful purpose.

I don't see why you would be so quick to judge the value of this genre, because in my opinion, rock could use more genres, where as EDM has way more genres defined (or maybe undefined would be a better word) already than it needs.

Rock could use MORE genres?? Hell, do you know how many there are under the Punk umbrella alone? Trust me, when it comes to rock purists, they can be just as equally anal about sub-micro-genres as any EDM fan.

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Originally posted by beats and beeps Regardless, can't you see the reason behind using a genre title, as a way of finding similar sounds. Just because genres may be difficult to keep up with, or keep track of, is not reason for them not to serve a useful purpose. I don't see why you would be so quick to judge the value of this genre, because in my opinion, rock could use more genres, where as EDM has way more genres defined (or maybe undefined would be a better word) already than it needs.

Not only do I disagree with your entire post, but I'd like to emphasize just how idiotic I think it is that this genre of "Stoner Rock" even exists, especially when the vast majority of Stoners don't listen to shit that's even close to the bands everyone seems to be describing in here.

"Stoner" rock can be anything that you enjoy listening to when you're stoned, not some ultra pretentious title for bullshit rock music that isn't very good anyway.

And no, Rock doesn't need any more genres. There are enough shit rock bands out there already, we don't need even more trying to pigeonhole themselves into progressively more and more random and meaningless subgenres.

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Originally posted by DJ RJT "Stoner" rock can be anything that you enjoy listening to when you're stoned, not some ultra pretentious title for bullshit rock music that isn't very good anyway.

So then by your theory.

Trance can be anything that puts me into a trance, well, fred penner is trance then.

Drum and Bass can be anything with drum and bass right? So actually, all stoner rock bands would be DnB too.

I get a big kick out of how you're trying to fight against a well established genre of music.

I can assure you more people recognize stoner rock as a proper genre of music, than people even recognize Trance as a proper genre of music. That is obviously only because more people are interested in rock, but just because you have fallen behind the times, and gotten stuck in your little "OH I SWEAR ITS NOT PROG" genres doesn't mean you can act like rock doesn't change when you're not around.

anyone heard of Wolfmother yet?

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Originally posted by beats and beeps So then by your theory. Trance can be anything that puts me into a trance, well, fred penner is trance then. Drum and Bass can be anything with drum and bass right? So actually, all stoner rock bands would be DnB too. I get a big kick out of how you're trying to fight against a well established genre of music. I can assure you more people recognize stoner rock as a proper genre of music, than people even recognize Trance as a proper genre of music. That is obviously only because more people are interested in rock, but just because you have fallen behind the times, and gotten stuck in your little "OH I SWEAR ITS NOT PROG" genres doesn't mean you can act like rock doesn't change when you're not around.

I don't care for the bullshit genres everyone tries to pigeonhole any music into.

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