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Posted by cheesenip on Mar-05-2002 22:46:

I am not a Christian.

I don't need a book to tell me how to live.

Posted by Spyder on Mar-05-2002 22:49:

AMmmm dont know anymore.. sorry

was... then sorta.. lost it..

Posted by Thor on Mar-05-2002 23:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Guy

IMO everyone who doesn't use any drugs is clean, so that implies that everyone who do use drugs is NOT clean. You can call it dirty yes...

That's the way I see it. It's black or white IMO.

I don't understand people who use drugs on parties: don't they like just the music enough? I can enjoy without drugs or something

Do you drink, take medication? Have you ever done drugs?

If you've never done any drugs, wouldn't it be not your place to determine why people do them?

If I didn't drink and called everyone who drank 'dirty' I think you'd see some very angry people.

The drugs I do are quite safe, and one in particular 'mushrooms' have been used for thousands of years in religious ceremonies. Would you call native indians dirty? the mayans? the Aztecs?

People do drugs for the same reason they go sky diving, river rafting, compete in sports, etc... Its an experience.

For those of you who have done drugs there's also one other big thing that happens to many who use drugs, seeing a different 'persception' on life.. Makes you look at many things very differently and gives you some new perspective on things. For me that has been the biggest thing to come out of using mushrooms

One question for the Christians, what are your thoughts then on Athiests? Are we mis-guided, the devils people, etc... Will we goto hell even if we live a moral and just life?

Posted by Keown on Mar-05-2002 23:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Thor

One question for the Christians, what are your thoughts then on Athiests? Are we mis-guided, the devils people, etc... Will we goto hell even if we live a moral and just life?

I suggest u read the older V Large Thread, which was all about religion and you will find out from the christians who posted in it, wat our thoughts r, on Athiests

Posted by Arya on Mar-06-2002 00:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Guy

I don't understand people who use drugs on parties: don't they like just the music enough? I can enjoy without drugs or something

IMO: People take drugs for the effect that it gives them. Not because the music isn't good enough. Just like people drink because of how it makes them feel. It doesn't make anyone less of a person, or 'dirty'. Yes drugs are bad for you, but in moderation, I don't think it�s a big deal. They can enhance an experience and make it more pleasurable in a way that most nothing else can. I'm not saying 'hey YOU should do drugs!', I'm only saying its a matter of personal preference.

Posted by Freeza on Mar-06-2002 00:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Arya

IMO: People take drugs for the effect that it gives them. Not because the music isn't good enough. Just like people drink because of how it makes them feel. It doesn't make anyone less of a person, or 'dirty'. Yes drugs are bad for you, but in moderation, I don't think it�s a big deal. They can enhance an experience and make it more pleasurable in a way that most nothing else can. I'm not saying 'hey YOU should do drugs!', I'm only saying its a matter of personal preference.

Greatly put by another Massachusetts TA!! We are expanding hehe

Posted by Special_K on Mar-06-2002 00:46:

I am, but only because my family is. I dont go to church or anything but i have been confirmed.

Posted by inatrance on Mar-06-2002 03:24:

hmm well.. I am a christian scientist.. never taken drugs in my life.. hows that for ya?? not even a shot or nothin

Posted by Fir3start3r on Mar-06-2002 06:30:

quote:
Originally posted by inatrance
hmm well.. I am a christian scientist.. never taken drugs in my life.. hows that for ya?? not even a shot or nothin

Not to pry, but what is a christian scientist?

Posted by biznology on Mar-06-2002 14:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r

Not to pry, but what is a christian scientist?

boy would i like to take this one...but ill let him do it cause he will know what hes talking about! late/

Posted by torontotrance on Mar-06-2002 17:04:

Christian Trancer......i make no apologies for being either.

Posted by Fir3start3r on Mar-06-2002 18:34:

quote:
Originally posted by biznology

boy would i like to take this one...but ill let him do it cause he will know what hes talking about! late/

What? It's a valid question...I'm serious....
I'm thinking a scientist with Christian values? But what kind of scientist?
That or I'm missing something...

Posted by -=K|p|H=- on Mar-06-2002 19:34:

christian. yes, I am almost.

Posted by {b.s.e.} on Mar-06-2002 20:11:

Posted by {b.s.e.} on Mar-06-2002 20:13:

quote:
Originally posted by DuMonde TrAnCeR

please do not use that term, it implies that i am a "dirty" trancer. you would not like me calling the non drug users pussy arsed or ****** trancer would u? i wouldn't say that, but u can see my point, i hope.

hehe ****** trancer.

Posted by Virus on Mar-06-2002 20:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Thor

Do you drink, take medication? Have you ever done drugs?

If you've never done any drugs, wouldn't it be not your place to determine why people do them?

If I didn't drink and called everyone who drank 'dirty' I think you'd see some very angry people.

People do drugs for the same reason they go sky diving, river rafting, compete in sports, etc... Its an experience.

For those of you who have done drugs there's also one other big thing that happens to many who use drugs, seeing a different 'persception' on life.. Makes you look at many things very differently and gives you some new perspective on things. For me that has been the biggest thing to come out of using mushrooms

I totally agree with Thor as well.

When I listen to music "under the influense" I become able to understand and appreciate it better. But that does not in any way mean that Ive got any sort of problems appreciating trance while sober. I spend about 6 - 7 hours a day listening to music and I dont do drugs on a daily or weekly basis. Trance is great by it self. Its just that you, as Thor says, see things from a different perspective. You really got to experience it to understand what its all about (Not that Im trying to get anyone to use drugs or anything, its just a matter of fact).

Im born christian btw, but not religious beyond beeing a member in the swedish church.

Posted by biznology on Mar-06-2002 20:48:

quote:
Originally posted by King of Clubs

Im born christian btw, but not religious beyond beeing a member in the swedish church.

which, from what i understand, inst all that religious in itself...is that right? late/

Posted by Virus on Mar-06-2002 21:00:

quote:
Originally posted by biznology

which, from what i understand, inst all that religious in itself...is that right? late/

Hi Biznology.

Protestantic Christianity (I think thats what its called in english) is religious to those with strong religious beliefs. They go to church, take part in the Communion, pray and all of that, so I would call it religious. I and the majority of the swedish population are christian and members of the swedish church, but without beeing a bit religious ourselves. If youre not a member you dont get to have a cristian marrige or have a funeral in church, thats why we dont quit the membership and stop paying the church tax

Posted by TimeportE on Mar-06-2002 21:03:

i'm a christian..
but when i read the thread about GODD's lyrics beeing offence i just didn't care.. i really don't think that they are offence, me believing in a god ..

Posted by Virus on Mar-06-2002 21:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Virus

Hi Biznology.

Protestantic Christianity (I think thats what its called in english) is religious to those with strong religious beliefs. They go to church, take part in the Communion, pray and all of that, so I would call it religious. I and the majority of the swedish population are christian and members of the swedish church, but without beeing religious ourselves. If youre not a member you dont get to have a cristian marrige or have a funeral in church, thats why we dont quit the membership and stop paying the church tax

Posted by Virus on Mar-06-2002 21:08:

Hmm... I dont know how the post above got there and I cant delete it.

Posted by matts on Mar-07-2002 02:31:

Christian here as well.

- matt

Posted by inatrance on Mar-07-2002 04:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r

Not to pry, but what is a christian scientist?

no its all good.. hmm to basically sum it up, heres a breif idea.. if you want more details PM me

we beleieve in God, that God is good, and what not. Basically it is the folloiwing of jesus' teachings, and healing by prayer instead of medication. So I have never taken a shot or anything in my life, and I solely rely on prayer.. that is real frigen brief, but I hope it made a little bit of sense to you

biznology, you can say what you know about it.. I'd like to hear

Posted by Damo on Mar-07-2002 05:04:

for those people in this thread who just said they're christian... do you practice the religion in any way or you just go along with whatever you were born into without any concious belief?

btw, the only higher power i believe in is balance.

Posted by matts on Mar-07-2002 05:36:

Damo: I was born as a Christian and have practiced it since. I chose to stay with God because there have been too many miracles and answered prayers in my life to not believe that God doesn't exist. That is where my conscious belief comes from.

- matt

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