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Posted by shaw on Jul-27-2006 15:09:

"You can't die from ecstasy!!!"

Posted by kr00t0n on Jul-27-2006 15:30:

quote:
Originally posted by JBDreamerie
oh yea, sure, besides e causing your brain to literally turn into swiss cheese, whether or not its mixed with anything else, it's totally fine.
never have tried it, never will try it

Go on with you propoganda self!

Holes in the brain, fucking laughable, my brain is fine.

Posted by Moral Hazard on Jul-27-2006 15:45:

quote:
Originally posted by kr00t0n
Go on with you propoganda self!

Holes in the brain, fucking laughable, my brain is fine.

No he's right.... if you inject a cow with 10,000 times the standard human dose every day for several months they do develop holes in their brain (so a study found). So let this be a lesson to everyone using E.... DO NOT MELT DOWN 10,000 PILLS AND MAIN-LINE THEM! Especially if you happen to be a cow.

Posted by bas on Jul-27-2006 15:59:

Posted by Protege on Jul-27-2006 16:05:

Posted by Moral Hazard on Jul-27-2006 16:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Protege
Great. I'm fucked.

sorry, I should have told you earlier.

Posted by colonelcrisp on Jul-27-2006 16:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
No he's right.... if you inject a cow with 10,000 times the standard human dose every day for several months they do develop holes in their brain (so a study found). So let this be a lesson to everyone using E.... DO NOT MELT DOWN 10,000 PILLS AND MAIN-LINE THEM! Especially if you happen to be a cow.

YAY NIDA report lol

seriously some of you people in this thread dont know shit...... general rule of thumb when it comes to contraband research, American studies are heavily biased, as the only way the will recieve gov funding is if the results say its bad.

second rule of thumb, no one study is correct unless its findings can be replicated by a second group of scientists, and to teh best of my knowledge, even the german study (which i find to be the most reputable personally) hasnt been re produced yet. the only thing i can say for 100% certain is any of the studies that show holes in teh brain, permanent seratonin site destruction or that E causes parkisons disease are 100% false and have been proven so by more than one reasearch team. hence my YAY NIDA comment.

The german findings clearly state that from their research they found that even in heavy users, they exhibited about a 8% decrease in seratonin activity (compared to the 80% that the nida study claimed), furthermore they stated that after 6 months of abstention from E use, the levels in teh test subjects returned to normal. however they stress that they still do not know the long term (10 yrs + downt he road) effects of E use, and probably wont until the 80's generation starts hitting their 30's and 40's. The german study was the only one who used hair testing to identify which drugs their subjects were using.

now onto the coke thing madamoiselle...

i went on a bender last firday night, went through 2 grams..... didnt pay for it thank god.... but i can see why people do so much of it. and the high is fun, but ive had better. its kind of over rated for what you pay / how much you do. if i did half as much mdma as i did coke that night, i would have been 1000000 times more high. and when we ran out of coke early sat mornign, i was pissed off at the world for hours.....

conclusion.... ill stick to my E thank you very much..... but it was fun to try.

Posted by Nicolas Oliver on Jul-27-2006 16:15:

I believe that the majority of reasonable, intelligent individuals, after having thoroughly researched the effects, pros, cons, and so on, of MDMA will conclude that it is a relatively safe drug that can provide very enjoyable experiences when used responsibly.

Only take substances from people you trust, drink an adequate amount of water while using MDMA, do not take too many pills in a given night, do not take the drug too often, i.e. allow plenty of time between rolling, etc.

Posted by Nicolas Oliver on Jul-27-2006 16:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Inconspicuous
"You can't die from ecstasy!!!"

It is not the MDMA that can cause fatality; rather it is the other chemicals that ecstasy pills are pressed with that can be quite dangerous.

This is not to say that taking a huge amount of MDMA will not mess someone up for a good number of hours.

Posted by Slylee on Jul-27-2006 16:23:

lol @ "smart, responsible drug users".

every illegal drug you take (and even prescriptions if you want to get all technical) is dangerous....no matter what. no matter if u have a dumb little test kit and drink water and bla bla bla...

it's a risk that all drug users take to get a high and to have a good time supposedly. and to me, if you are willing to take that risk and risk your life, then you aren't that responsible or smart. i'm not saying you're stupid though...no offense, i know i seem like a big hipocrite here, but that's why i dont like to do drugs any more.

there's only so much you can do to prevent ODing or even dying...but like i said, there's risk involved every single time you do drugs. i'm not excluding alcohol either.

Posted by shaw on Jul-27-2006 16:31:

quote:
Originally posted by cenik_RH905
It is not the MDMA that can cause fatality; rather it is the other chemicals that ecstasy pills are pressed with that can be quite dangerous.

This is not to say that taking a huge amount of MDMA will not mess someone up for a good number of hours.

...it's a quote from a tv series that aired on Lifetime ( )...the quote was then sampled by Lawler & others...hence the reason for my posting it...not 'cuz I think it's true. /actual response.

Posted by colonelcrisp on Jul-27-2006 16:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
lol @ "smart, responsible drug users".

every illegal drug you take (and even prescriptions if you want to get all technical) is dangerous....no matter what. no matter if u have a dumb little test kit and drink water and bla bla bla...

it's a risk that all drug users take to get a high and to have a good time supposedly. and to me, if you are willing to take that risk and risk your life, then you aren't that responsible or smart. i'm not saying you're stupid though...no offense, i know i seem like a big hipocrite here, but that's why i dont like to do drugs any more.

there's only so much you can do to prevent ODing or even dying...but like i said, there's risk involved every single time you do drugs. i'm not excluding alcohol either.

this is all very true, but i still think that if you understand the risks and control your use and frequency, you can manage the risk involved and remain safe. i know alot of people that have bad drug problems, i know alot of alcoholics, but i also know people who can do drugs from time to time, and drink ocasionaly.

moderation is the key in all things

Posted by Slylee on Jul-27-2006 16:37:

another thing is that once you're fucked up, your judgment is completely off. u could pop 2 pills of "e" even after you tested them and everything is fine and you're nice and hydrated, etc...but man, when you're feeling THAT good and that wrecked and some people are like, "oh man i got some k, dude u want a bump?" and ur like, "i dunno, i've never done it" and they're like, "OMG! it's the fucking BEST EVER, especially on e...here dude"..and then u take a nice big bump and end up in the ER cuz it wasn't K, or ur body just didn't react well, or something like that.

that's all i'm saying...so it doesn't matter how responsible u are...once you're under the influence, a lot can happen.

Posted by Moral Hazard on Jul-27-2006 16:37:

quote:
Originally posted by colonelcrisp
moderation

MODERATION IS FOR PUSSIES!!!!

Posted by Slylee on Jul-27-2006 16:39:

lol

Posted by Moral Hazard on Jul-27-2006 16:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
another thing is that once you're fucked up, your judgment is completely off. u could pop 2 pills of "e" even after you tested them and everything is fine and you're nice and hydrated, etc...but man, when you're feeling THAT good and that wrecked and some people are like, "oh man i got some k, dude u want a bump?" and ur like, "i dunno, i've never done it" and they're like, "OMG! it's the fucking BEST EVER, especially on e...here dude"..and then u take a nice big bump and end up in the ER cuz it wasn't K, or ur body just didn't react well, or something like that.

that's all i'm saying...so it doesn't matter how responsible u are...once you're under the influence, a lot can happen.

What you described is not responsibility.

Posted by shaw on Jul-27-2006 16:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
What you described is not responsibility.

ooh, burn. Ah, the sting of the literal.

Posted by l�cid on Jul-27-2006 16:46:

Posted by bas on Jul-27-2006 16:50:

quote:
Originally posted by l�cid
... and i want to try K at least once in my life.

K is soooooo much fun.

Posted by Moral Hazard on Jul-27-2006 16:51:

quote:
Originally posted by l�cid
i haven't touched E since WMC but i still probably want to do it a couple more times, but only if it's under the perfect circumstances... and i want to try K at least once in my life.

So I'll see you in August right?

Posted by shaw on Jul-27-2006 16:53:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_bas
K is soooooo much fun.

?

Posted by KilldaDJ on Jul-27-2006 16:54:

peadofile?

Posted by l�cid on Jul-27-2006 16:57:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_bas
K is soooooo much fun.

bringmesomenextmonthplz.

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
So I'll see you in August right?

unfortunately we had to change our plans and we won't be able to make it to Toronto. Rob is moving to a new place and he has to be out of his apartment on Aug 20th, so we have to be back here on the 18th or 19th.

Posted by bas on Jul-27-2006 17:00:

quote:
Originally posted by l�cid
bringmesomenextmonthplz.

If only I had the means

Posted by l�cid on Jul-27-2006 17:03:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_bas
If only I had the means

can you at least pack a Clovis in your suitcase?

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