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Posted by legendary_waz on Jul-27-2006 13:15:

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Oh, and I love how they say E pills are geared towards kids because they're colorful. By the same train of logic we could say cocaine is geared towards kids cause cocaine looks a lot like sugar, which kids love.


your analogies rock! always make me laugh.


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Jul-27-2006 13:19:

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Originally posted by legendary_waz
your analogies rock! always make me laugh.


FROSTY flakes, hmmm? TONY the tiger? Always going, "GRRREEEEAAAAT!". I always knew there was something fishy about the cereal - they're hooking kids on cocaine through cereal!


Posted by petro on Jul-27-2006 13:21:

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
I dunno if that smiley means you're kidding, but MDMA is not a type of a methamphetamine. It's like saying carbon dioxide (a harmless atmospheric gas) is a type of carbon monoxide (a highly toxic gas). Those extra atoms really do make the difference in chemical compounds. Meth is not MDMA and never will be.

Oh, and I love how they say E pills are geared towards kids because they're colorful. By the same train of logic we could say cocaine is geared towards kids cause cocaine looks a lot like sugar, which kids love.


wish i read ur post earlier, save me the trouble of explaining


Posted by The Highroller on Jul-27-2006 13:23:

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Originally posted by Tb.
I think you're a little confused. MDMA and Meth are two different things, often combined to cheapen the cost of making pills because Meth is the less expensive of the two to produce. As for saying that in its chemical name they both contain the word "Methamphetamine" does not make it the same thing. Meth acts as adrenaline and stimulates dopamines, while MDMA flushes your serotonin creating that euphoric sensation. Being a derivative of doesnt make it the a type of, thats chemistry...a few slight changes in the chemical composition can change a substence completely.


That being said, lots of pills these days do have added meth into them.


Posted by petro on Jul-27-2006 13:26:

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Originally posted by The Highroller
That being said, lots of pills these days do have added meth into them.


Yeah, I'd say most pills ARE Meth with a touch of MDMA. Its really hard to find a clean pills these days, but when you do you quickly realize what you've been missing lol.


Posted by _EuG_ on Jul-27-2006 13:28:

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Originally posted by The Highroller
That being said, lots of pills these days do have added meth into them.


Thats why if u party, get Molly


Posted by sticky_shoes on Jul-27-2006 13:30:

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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
I dunno if that smiley means you're kidding, but MDMA is not a type of a methamphetamine. It's like saying carbon dioxide (a harmless atmospheric gas) is a type of carbon monoxide (a highly toxic gas). Those extra atoms really do make the difference in chemical compounds. Meth is not MDMA and never will be.


Goshness...dude!!! Of course MA and MDMA will never be the same...but I didn't say they were...But, WTF? Not a very good analogy...actually the silliest "chemistry" thing I've heard! Obviously CO2 and CO are different...in terms of their chemical scaffold...(pls. refer to your chem text!!!)

Hmmm...Time for a chemistry lesson...

Methamphetamine...



MDMA...



If you notice by their chemical structure...They share the same chemical scaffold...however...the MDMA is modified (dioxygen ring by the benzene ring)...but still a TYPE (maybe the word form would have been more appropriate) of methamphetamine...

I didn't say they were the same...MA is the generic form and MDMA is the modified...

But...I do admire your tenacity...muahaha....don't mess with the chemist, dude


Posted by riskytrader on Jul-27-2006 13:36:

I knew a career in science wasn't in the cards for me in Grade 11 chemistry. I still get shudders anytime I think about nomenclature. I just could never understand that stuff


Posted by sticky_shoes on Jul-27-2006 13:46:

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You guys are makin' my morning


Posted by Skipper on Jul-27-2006 13:48:

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Speak for yourself, amature.


lol.

The media is so ridiculous on this issue...did mr. coroner know that pure MDMA used to be perscribed by trained doctors?

Pills are risky.
*Pure* mdma, in small doses, is not any more risky than your average perscription narcotic.


Posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* on Jul-27-2006 13:49:

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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
FROSTY flakes, hmmm? TONY the tiger? Always going, "GRRREEEEAAAAT!". I always knew there was something fishy about the cereal - they're hooking kids on cocaine through cereal!


I can understand Frosted flakes...but Tony I don't. That was just something made up through friends. However I don't think that was really their intent. The Frosted part is just getting them excited for more SUGAR! (However, I'm assuming there was a hint of sarcasm in your post)


Posted by MaxTO on Jul-27-2006 14:08:

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~*
I can understand Frosted flakes...but Tony I don't. That was just something made up through friends.



Posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* on Jul-27-2006 14:11:

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Originally posted by MaxTO


Ohhhhhhhhhh alright...I've never watched the whole thing.


Posted by Jem_hadar on Jul-27-2006 14:11:

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~*
Ohhhhhh look at the pretty dolphin, I want to eat it!!



Posted by chinamon on Jul-27-2006 14:20:

one thing that this article failed to mention was that the girl was found collapsed and in a coma at Zellers.

she took E to go shopping...


Posted by petro on Jul-27-2006 14:31:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
one thing that this article failed to mention was that the girl was found collapsed and in a coma at Zellers.

she took E to go shopping...



Whhaaaattt?!


Posted by Moral Hazard on Jul-27-2006 14:34:

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Originally posted by chinamon
she took E to go shopping...


Works with my theory on E being the bacon and cheese of drugs. Everything's better with bacon and cheese.... why not shopping?


Posted by Jem_hadar on Jul-27-2006 14:39:

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Works with my theory on E being the bacon and cheese of drugs. Everything's better with bacon and cheese.... why not shopping?


id rather eat a 1/2 quarter of mushrooms then go shoppings with some friends in a mall oh god..


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Jul-27-2006 14:44:

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Originally posted by sticky_shoes
...a whole bunch of chem stuff...


Ahh, sorry, you're the chem prof, I thought you weren't.

I'll stick to physics in teh future. Stupid chem.


Posted by infinity HiGH on Jul-27-2006 14:45:

I love how all these people that OD from MDMA are in the most ridiculous situations to begin with. Remember that girl who OD'ed after taking pills and going to the internet cafe? And now this one takes some pills, and goes to Zellers???

Morons


Posted by chinamon on Jul-27-2006 15:04:

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Originally posted by Tb.
Meth acts as adrenaline and stimulates dopamines, while MDMA flushes your serotonin creating that euphoric sensation.


you do know that while seratonin is the most released neurotransmitter when mdma is used, dopamine is second?

quote:
Originally posted by sticky_shoes
Goshness...dude!!! Of course MA and MDMA will never be the same...but I didn't say they were...But, WTF? Not a very good analogy...actually the silliest "chemistry" thing I've heard! Obviously CO2 and CO are different...in terms of their chemical scaffold...(pls. refer to your chem text!!!)

Hmmm...Time for a chemistry lesson...

Methamphetamine...



MDMA...



If you notice by their chemical structure...They share the same chemical scaffold...however...the MDMA is modified (dioxygen ring by the benzene ring)...but still a TYPE (maybe the word form would have been more appropriate) of methamphetamine...

I didn't say they were the same...MA is the generic form and MDMA is the modified...

But...I do admire your tenacity...muahaha....don't mess with the chemist, dude


Jax - 1 TOTA - 0


Posted by sticky_shoes on Jul-27-2006 15:21:

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Ahh, sorry, you're the chem prof, I thought you weren't.

I'll stick to physics in teh future. Stupid chem.


A chem prof?...haha...

I'm a just pathetic, geeky loser who knows way too much chem for their own good...

Losers like me take chem...you better stick with physics... way more interesting!!!


Posted by sticky_shoes on Jul-27-2006 15:25:

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Originally posted by chinamon
Jax - 1 TOTA - 0


Haha...I'll stop causing the ruckus in this thread...


Posted by rabbitjoker on Jul-27-2006 15:28:

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Posted by rabbitjoker on Jul-27-2006 15:28:

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Originally posted by _EuG_
WE NEED EDUCATION ON SAFE USE


Unfortunately there is no such thing (safe use). When one takes drugs - one is running the risk of harm.


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