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if swamper doesn't want TA Recordings to happen it would be unfair to sort of parasite on the name of TA without his agreement!

so no TA Recordings are not going to happen ever!

or atleast untill Swampy changes his mind about it!

The guys at Trancetribe (Aussie crew) have a label up and going, and are getting new tracks up weekly (or close to). Might like to check them out.
Link

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Originally posted by skot_e The guys at Trancetribe (Aussie crew) have a label up and going, and are getting new tracks up weekly (or close to). Might like to check them out. Link

Trancetribe is a toy label. Very unproffesional. I wouldn't work with them if I were you.

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Originally posted by BOOsTER if swamper doesn't want TA Recordings to happen it would be unfair to sort of parasite on the name of TA without his agreement!

We can ask his premision to use the name, I am sure he wouldn't mind at all.

TA Recordings can sign other EDM genres too, not just trance you know.
We can make a A&R for each subgenere and try to run it.
We still need to ask swamper.

Omer

random question:

would it be a bad idea to start a trance addict label?
something of a collab of the many unsigned but very talented producers here?

edit: ok i read the whole thread now... im a little after the initial punch.
oh well great minds think alike lol

If A TA label can possibly happen, how bout have it half pay, and half free. What I mean is, allow free downloads of MP3's that are 128 bit, and offer those same tracks in higher quality MP3 and wave format, for a small fee. Most of us just want our tracks promoted and played, correct? Giving out free, lower quality downloads would at least ensure that tracks get heard, even if only a few purchased them. Adds on the website could help cover server costs and so forth. DJs and listeners would know that each TA track has gone through strict quality control measures. So it wouldn't be hit or miss, like when you download tracks from soundclicks or download.com. I'm just thinking a TA label should be more about getting the music out there, and helping TA forum members.

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Originally posted by zodiac9 If A TA label can possibly happen, how bout have it half pay, and half free. What I mean is, allow free downloads of MP3's that are 128 bit, and offer those same tracks in higher quality MP3 and wave format, for a small fee. Most of us just want our tracks promoted and played, correct? Giving out free, lower quality downloads would at least ensure that tracks get heard, even if only a few purchased them. Adds on the website could help cover server costs and so forth. DJs and listeners would know that each TA track has gone through strict quality control measures. So it wouldn't be hit or miss, like when you download tracks from soundclicks or download.com. I'm just thinking a TA label should be more about getting the music out there, and helping TA forum members.

yea i think its the way to go. but its getting swampers permission to use the TA name. ill help with web design and logo design etc for it. im sure everyone can help in some way.

Yes it is what has killed trance music. Indie labels just get in the way and don't promote someone to get good enough to be on a label like Armada Music.

Guys let's seriously start this up. I think this is an ingenius idea. The community is plenty large enough and I know we have the talent here. Collaborations would be fairly easy since we all know each others faults, type of tracks they create and all that other good info. Web design is a breeze since I know many of us can code some html/dhtml/css/javascript and what not. I think we have the potential for something big here. The A&R would have to be strict for sure, but I'm sure that that person would choose quality tracks and I know we have some talented and even professional sound engineers here to do mastering on tracks. I think we should put this plan into action. If anyone else agrees, then just do a +1 and a little comment or something. Sorry rich buddy I feel like I'm stealing your thread, but I think it's for a great cause.

Edit: Swamper...we'll make you the main man mr ceo lol (Do you think that bribe worked?)

I've got 2GB of online space / storage. Can I help?

I would fully support the idea of a label made by TA producers. I dunno about calling it TA productions, though, as from what I'm reading Swamper's not so keen on the idea.

and who would be considered a TA producer?

i think if the label was endorsed by tranceaddict. and in some way benefitted ta then it could be really pushed into everyones minds. i mean, everyone who is everyone in trance knows ta. and some big advertising sceme on the frankly disused front page would really push a label into the big domain. all that matters is getting decent tracks released.

1 problem is that the idea of a label kind of defeats the point of ta. i mean the artist promotion page is primarily aimed/used by us amature producers. and you really need bigger names aswell..

Don't think the idea of Zodiac9's Half/Free thing would help out in gaining more respect in the scene.

Selling the releases trough AudioJelly & beatport should be the way to go - i've signed up a label with audiojelly and it's actually FREE, you just split sales with them, beatport works with a comparable system - this also means you don't need a working "webshop" for the label - these sites get more traffic anyway.

Just have a professional looking (nothing too fancy) site with detailed information & previews on releases (check out Total Digital Recordings) - when someone wants to buy a track -> Audiojelly/...

About the half free thing > most people will not buy a track when they have the 128kbit for free, not even if they like the track - only DJ's that want it will play it on PA's will need a higher resolution version ... And if people want 'our' free tracks, they don't need to go to a record label - they can just come here ...

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Originally posted by djsphere and who would be considered a TA producer?

people who produce and promote on TA

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Originally posted by richg101 i think if the label was endorsed by tranceaddict. and in some way benefitted ta then it could be really pushed into everyones minds. i mean, everyone who is everyone in trance knows ta. and some big advertising sceme on the frankly disused front page would really push a label into the big domain. all that matters is getting decent tracks released.

+1

Maybe we can use another name and state that we sign the TA artists.
That will be less commercially effective but can still help.

"XXX Recordings. The only one that gaurenties to sign TA producers, vocalists ect." or something like that.

XXX Recordings? So they sign moaning chicks?

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Originally posted by DJSentinel XXX Recordings? So they sign moaning chicks?

i can hear calls for a lucrative hard core porn sideline! this is where the moneys at!

'hardcore trance/f**k addict hunnies part 3'

anyone ever consider a TA track? say a few producers got together and made a track. every persons talents put into it. it would certainly be a hit.

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Originally posted by dj_kane anyone ever consider a TA track? say a few producers got together and made a track. every persons talents put into it. it would certainly be a hit.

There was a competition a couple of years ago, but it was aborted halfway through because of a lack of interest.
I asked Swamper again last year, but he was not up for it. TA has evolved into a multi-genre website, whereas the anthem would undoubtedly turn out to be something melodic/uplifting. An anthem should define the entire community, but that is impossible the way things are now. A lot of members would probably hate the track, hehe..

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Originally posted by groundzero74 Don't think the idea of Zodiac9's Half/Free thing would help out in gaining more respect in the scene. Selling the releases trough AudioJelly & beatport should be the way to go - i've signed up a label with audiojelly and it's actually FREE, you just split sales with them, beatport works with a comparable system - this also means you don't need a working "webshop" for the label - these sites get more traffic anyway.

My thinking is that there are already plenty of Indie labels out there, I'm on one, and I have a track for sale on beatport and Audiojelly. Anyone with good enough tracks can probably find a little Indie label to get on. If all someone is looking for is to get on the major online digital shops, the opportunity is already available. A TA label would be equivalent to an Indie label, so I don't really see the point, unless it is going to be something different and special, that benefits TA members. Otherwise, it will just be another Indie label on beatport and audiojelly.

And I think if you would limit a label purely to the members on a website it would ruin your chances.

So are you going to start charging money from the same amateur tracks we get for free now?

I don't think you're being realistic with this. It would end up being us selling our tracks to each other if it was just us TA's. We would just be flooding a market that's too full as it is.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery So are you going to start charging money from the same amateur tracks we get for free now? I don't think you're being realistic with this. It would end up being us selling our tracks to each other if it was just us TA's. We would just be flooding a market that's too full as it is.

i agree here.

it is a nice idea, but then again i really think that if you want a release you will get one if you have the goods.

i think ta records(if it ever came about) would be quite low regarded because it imediately brings to mind 'amature' tracks. and the tracks that did get released would get released anyway on other labels..

if ta had been introduced 2 years ago it would have been massive!

^
@zodiac9 - If it's really a label for the TA members to release on, just to get our music out there in a nice package/presentation (nice website, clean encoded MP3 with full ID Tags etc...) it'll be cool too, and could be free of charge ...

But when the A&R is really tough, and everybody collaborates & we get mastered correctly - we could try to profile TA Records as the next reincarnation of Trance Music, not an "amateur" label ... come out as pro in the end... pressing the best records on Vinyl with the money earned from MP3 sales ...
Check out the total digital recordings website - they started as an amateur label, made the right choices, now they are a sub-label for Bonzai !

But yeah, i'm probably looking at it with total idealism - stick with your first idea... it's always the best choice ...

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