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someone mentioned Interpol, they are pretty good for coming out now.

Nickelback i dislike as well, but even back in the 80s there was music that just sucked like that as well. look at all those bad 80s rock bands....

Shamez made an interesting point about different time frames. i mean look at the 50s and 60s music. do you still hear stuff like that? no, it has evolved into what it is now. i have read alot that EDM artists have been influenced by a lot of 80s music. i am curious as to how music will sound in the future with their main influence being EDM. hope that makes some sense.

this topic reminds me of that part in trainspotting where Diane is telling renton that the world is changing, music is changing, even drugs are changing.

Big fan of the NY/ NJ harcore movement from the 90s

Orange 9mm
Dog Eat Dog
Biohazard
Life of Agony
E-town Concrete
Quicksand
StompBox
Mutha's Day Out
Agnostic Front

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Originally posted by klingklang77 someone mentioned Interpol, they are pretty good for coming out now. Nickelback i dislike as well, but even back in the 80s there was music that just sucked like that as well. look at all those bad 80s rock bands.... Shamez made an interesting point about different time frames. i mean look at the 50s and 60s music. do you still hear stuff like that? no, it has evolved into what it is now. i have read alot that EDM artists have been influenced by a lot of 80s music. i am curious as to how music will sound in the future with their main influence being EDM. hope that makes some sense. this topic reminds me of that part in trainspotting where Diane is telling renton that the world is changing, music is changing, even drugs are changing.

totally agree.

not just the horrible hair bands of the 80s but how bout the shitty synth cheese newave bands that was comin out left and right ? im sure many music lovers wanted to put a gun to their heads just like how john [fr0st] is frustrated.

i admit, lots of EDM isnt what it used to be.. so much has been tried & tested already but instead of talkin about how wack certain thing is, i feel one should focus on searching for the good stuff and using there time doing so, and BELIEVE me, there are still TONS of good music out there. you just need to dig a little harder and deeper.

i goto the record store, just pick out like 100 records and just listen to them.. and i'll pick out whatever i liked from it. sometimes it can be 10 sometimes 5 sometimes 1. the important thing is that you took your time to look for music and if you do it enough, you will defintely find something that will satisfy you.

i just dont like to get stuck in negativity cuz we can do that all day. instead, lets look for ways to escape/change that.

GUSTAVO CERATI y SODA STEREO

also, gin blossoms bush and the police

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Originally posted by DJ_Lord GUSTAVO CERATI y SODA STEREO

Off topic question, sorta...

I used to listen to a lot of hardcore, punk, etc.. growing up in the 80's, and stopped doing so once I discovered EDM in '91. Ever since then, my knowledge of music that uses 'real instruments' has been in decline, with the worst happening in the past 6 yrs after I moved to Toronto. With no 9:30 Club equivilent here, I've barely seen any live concerts (compared to weekly shows b4 moving here). I'm completely out of touch with genres and bands. Last year I picked up an album by Billy Talent, and I absolutely LOVE them! Are they considered 'emo' or just nouveau-punk? (I never really understood what qualified as emo).

(someone educate this old woman)

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Originally posted by fr0st As I see you just recently joined, ill bare you the details. But Highshit and I go way back(2 years or so). And if anyone is gonna deal with his homophobic tendancies its gonna be me. Also from my intrusive post search of you, because i have no clue who you are and was curious. I see you tend to go to the big brand name techno(err i mean trance, progelectropsybreaks what ever the catchy genre term is for it nowadays) events. Do you go to any of the more "underground" acts? It would seem the same superficial reasons that lead you to those 90's bands prolly lead you to electronic music. Or maybe it is drugs(last few trance events I have been to, i actually believe the only way you could enjoy them is with a few hits of e). Or it could be even the ladies for all i know. Because if its in search of new innovative music PVD isnt it, markus isnt it, and AVB us deffinately not fucking it. Yeah im not trying to come off a prick its the 90's angst and all. I also totaly agree on the record exutive comment. But if those types of records didn't sell they wouldn't lead million dollar add campaigns with billboards, magazines, radio plays etc. They practicly force people to like that shit. I mean i havent listened to a radio in about 2 years and even i know some of the most recent pop songs. They force feed us shit and we buy it. If consumers were smarter this wouldnt happen. And dont get me started on MP3's(yeah im guity of them too) but they fucking destroyed the independant market for all genres. This even goes further than just marketing. it goes into the production. Nickleback(fucking douchebags if there ever were ones, they deffinately are going to hell for a dollar and fame) http://www.thewebshite.net/nickelback.htm Listen to this in stero. Drums perfectly sync up, chord changes at same time drum fills almost identical. And i dont know of any drummers that keep tempo perfectly constant through the whole song(computer edited and synced anyone?). And the loss of dynamics in modern music. This again we have to thank the record labels. They want the shit to be the loudest song on the radio. Why you ask? So its heard, so it becomes familiar, so you can sing the fucking chorus while your driving down the road in your car with the windows down. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war Fuck record companies, fuck musicans who give into demands of record campanies and sell all artistic integrity they have, and lastly fuck you consumers who bought the most recent 50cent, little john, nickleback(fuck them the most), britany spears(I admit though toxic was cool, though prolly force fed to me) yeah fuck all you billboard scum sucking consumers. In the end we ultimately fuck ourselves. Wether it be our music, our planet, our culture. The only ones we can blame are ourselves for never doing anything about it.

I see you got alot of time on your hands

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XhizPun5...18%20and%20life


Skid Row - 18 and Life FTW FFS!!!!!

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Originally posted by fr0st http://youtube.com/watch?v=XhizPun5...18%20and%20life Skid Row - 18 and Life FTW FFS!!!!!

LOL !

that was the shit.. youth gone wild too..

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Originally posted by dj tek LOL ! that was the shit.. youth gone wild too..

I dont want anyone i ever listened to one genre exclusively so check this out..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HW7gjbEmKM

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Originally posted by fr0st I dont want anyone i ever listened to one genre exclusively so check this out.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HW7gjbEmKM

i have ^^ on 12"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=wPqzwali...ch=dirty%20cash

check this one out.. thats my shit !!

To be totally honest, fuck "90's angst." The death of hip hop is more saddening, really. There's still SOME good underground, but nothing like this stuff:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ndo37LMzmU (the best example... because Prodigy sucks now. my friend insists that Havoc wrote P's lyrics back in the day)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7QVNCcQ-oM ( )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEPF2CNYkfk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N91rXNFgOd4

haha no fuckin way man, P's lyrics was always more illa than Hav's.. every track, P shines over Hav.. not that Hav was wack, it was just P was much more illa.

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Originally posted by Shamez214 To be totally honest, fuck "90's angst." The death of hip hop is more saddening, really.

I would include hip hop in the 90's angst category. Discontent and frustration with life/society/politics/etc. was a theme in both styles of music.

Older hiphop(late 80s early 90s) had a message though oftenly I didn't agree with these messages there were there none the less. The only message modern hiphop brings is to degrade women. Thanks for the vids shamez.

Pete Rock & CL Smooth - They Reminisce Over You <--- pure class

Lets bring it back...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNxmyCZqrGA

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Originally posted by dj tek haha no fuckin way man, P's lyrics was always more illa than Hav's.. every track, P shines over Hav.. not that Hav was wack, it was just P was much more illa.

Havoc has stayed the same lyrically since the begining. Prodigy has steadily gotten worse as time wore on. Someone had to be writing his lyrics. Also... personally, I like Havoc's verse on Shook Ones a whole lot more than Prodigys.

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Originally posted by Shamez214 Havoc has stayed the same lyrically since the begining. Prodigy has steadily gotten worse as time wore on. Someone had to be writing his lyrics. Also... personally, I like Havoc's verse on Shook Ones a whole lot more than Prodigys.

dude, Havoc is the producer out of the 2. hes a brlliant producer but not known for being a ill lyricist. P's lyrics gotten worse cuz it just did. maybe he aint hungry no more, maybe he doesnt put much effort into it as he did in the past.. there are many mobb tracks where P has an extra verse and its cuz his shit was tight. ie. Hell On Earth, Give Up The Goods, Quiet Storm etc.

give up that thought or tell your friend P never had ghostriders.

Puff did, Foxy did, Will Smith did. not prodigy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owZkzmut4nQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grAGCkhLIvc <<< one of the best and most underappreciated hip hop tracks ever.

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Originally posted by dj tek dude, Havoc is the producer out of the 2. hes a brlliant producer but not known for being a ill lyricist. P's lyrics gotten worse cuz it just did. maybe he aint hungry no more, maybe he doesnt put much effort into it as he did in the past.. there are many mobb tracks where P has an extra verse and its cuz his shit was tight. ie. Hell On Earth, Give Up The Goods, Quiet Storm etc. give up that thought or tell your friend P never had ghostriders. Puff did, Foxy did, Will Smith did. not prodigy.

The general perception is that he's better. But I disagree. It's all subjective.

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Originally posted by Shamez214 The general perception is that he's better. But I disagree. It's all subjective.

its pretty easy to see who is a better mc, wordplay, flow, creativity, punches etc. but if youre feelin hav more thats all good, i have no way in that. i'll say this tho, real mcees, lyricists, true hip hop fans/supporters, most will agree that prodigy is the better mc out of the 2.

"Hip Hop you the love of my life and that's true"
At least the Roots are still making great music.

Hip Hop isnt dead. Underground still exist.

Common
Mos Def
Dilated Peoples
Gangstarr
Imortal technique
Roots
Jurassic 5
Dead Prez

and whats everyone take on Gnarles Barkley?

its very differnt from what you constantly hear now a days

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Originally posted by dj tek its pretty easy to see who is a better mc, wordplay, flow, creativity, punches etc. but if youre feelin hav more thats all good, i have no way in that. i'll say this tho, real mcees, lyricists, true hip hop fans/supporters, most will agree that prodigy is the better mc out of the 2.

although they both now suck, prodigy ate up havoc all over the first three albums -- it's not even close. for a producer, h was pretty solid though.

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Originally posted by Taub Hip Hop isnt dead. Underground still exist. Common Mos Def Dilated Peoples Gangstarr Imortal technique Roots Jurassic 5 Dead Prez and whats everyone take on Gnarles Barkley? its very differnt from what you constantly hear now a days

gnarls barkley = overrated

common sense has become a pansy-ass punk over the last 10 years -- what happened to the dude that made joints like soul by the pound..

mos def is inferior to talib, though he's still quality.

immortal technique has gone down the tubes: the middle passage is taking way longer to drop, his live shows have been stagnant, repetitive and populated by suburban frat boys, and he seems to be shitting on his values [interviews/pictorials in playboy; distribution deals with babygrande and talks with majors, etc.]

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Originally posted by dj tek its pretty easy to see who is a better mc, wordplay, flow, creativity, punches etc. but if youre feelin hav more thats all good, i have no way in that. i'll say this tho, real mcees, lyricists, true hip hop fans/supporters, most will agree that prodigy is the better mc out of the 2.

Well... to be honest, I never thought either was anyhting fantastic. But I do like Havoc more. But... young Prodigy's voice is so good. He could've been saying nursery rhymes and it would've sounded good with that voice.

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