Harmonic mixing example by Shane 54

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Posted by tekart on Aug-04-2006 08:14:

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Originally posted by Airbase
Ableton aint telling you the key, you still need to figure out that yourself by ear.

he was talkin abt "Mixed In Key"

Posted by Jeremy H on Aug-04-2006 09:45:

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Originally posted by Rememberence_
God damn there are so many haters in here it's not funny. This was really well put together... the set programming is admirable and it really does accomplish showing the potential seemlessness of harmonic transitions. Awesome.

Agree. Butlike some people said, 50% of the tracks didn't come through at all, but it was still enjoyable to listen to. Nothing I would like to hear in a club tho

Posted by sleepydragon on Aug-05-2006 14:23:

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Originally posted by dj_palm
actualy this is not mixed in key! listen to the last song and then reverse to the first song! same key? NO damnit, is this software v1.0??

that doesnt prove anything except that he must of mixed into another compatible key u dont stay in the same key in a mix

Posted by Floorfiller on Aug-05-2006 15:10:

god some of you people are so narrow minded. it's just supposed to be something fun. it's reactions like the ones in this thread that make me realize why some of you are such terrible dj's...

i listen to annie mac's show all the time...most of the sets are a little more eclectic than this one, but it sounds pretty good. better than some that i've heard. i'd have to say trance would be one of the easier genres to do a minimix with heheh...but still sounds good.

Posted by Zild on Aug-05-2006 19:54:

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Originally posted by sleepydragon
that doesnt prove anything except that he must of mixed into another compatible key u dont stay in the same key in a mix

Yeah for sure. Nobody ever starts off and stays in the same key the whole time.

Posted by miamitranceman on Aug-05-2006 20:09:

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Originally posted by Floorfiller
god some of you people are so narrow minded. it's just supposed to be something fun.

+ fucking 1 dude

Posted by Prism on Aug-05-2006 21:14:

I've known about harmonic mixing way before this "Mixed in key" came out. Yakov is a clever guy, he wrote this software especially for that purpose to detect the key of a track. Different programm I'm using not only detects the key or groups tracks in a similar note group but you also can do the mixing. So well done Yakov 'Mixed in key' is great but for me it didn't break any boundaries...it did help digital DJs learn about harmonic mixing

Posted by laptopdj on Aug-06-2006 04:59:

Wow, what a thread!

I needed a few days to get my account enabled, otherwise I could've saved some bashing for other topics
I was already mixing 'in key' way before I found out about Yakov's program.
It's true: finding the key of a song isn't THAT hard the 'usual way' (ie: with a synth, or other instrument), just a little music theory is what you need, it's fairly easy.
On the other hand if you facing like a HD full of tunes, finding those keys out becomes a pretty boring experience that can take days to complete. (Typical slave work: finding the key, rename the file, save it to where you want it then repeat this process at least a few hundred times)
The program does the most time consumig part for you, that's all. It's not 100% perfect, (I would say 90) but I usually double check everything with a keyboard, so I can find and correct most of the problematic songs' key codes.

Why would I do a 5 minutes mix with 32 tracks in it?
Because with Live I can. (Besides the fact it's good fun, that's it.)

I like to blend different kind of stuff together, and enjoy being able to play with my laptop as I always wanted to: shamelessly mashing stuff up and mix in musical key. (With vinyls you have to deal with pitch shifting, which can make things fairly complicated, the cdjs timestretch also sounds pretty bad to me, so none of them could be an option with what I want to do in the dj booth)

If someone thinks these 5 minutes are stupid I have to agree, it is really stupid.
That's why I enjoyed so much making it. Stupid things can lighten up your day...

One more thing:
The mix wasn't made for commercial purposes: I basically made it to see if the program works for me at all, then it turned out to be a mashup-mayhem, and Yakov seemed to like it a lot. I could say it's my little 'hat-off' to his work.
At the end Mixed In Key is just a tool that helps me out bigtime. I could live without it, but why should I when it works well for me?
Having a program to find out the key of a song isn't far from using a sequencer to program the melody that is in our heads, but it would take alot of time to learn playing it on the keyboard perfectly...

Cheers

Posted by Prism on Aug-06-2006 16:50:

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Originally posted by dj_palm
i wonder how the 2 hour sets will be like then? 300 tracks?

lmao

Posted by Stu Cox on Aug-06-2006 17:00:

Think you might be getting the wrong end of the stick, Palm...

There aren't any climaxes cos it's a 5 minute mix - you don't hear the whole of any tunes cos you'd only fit 1 tune in that time... as Shane says, it's just a bit of fun, something slightly different to listen to for once and I agree hearing megamixes too much gets annoying.

And I'm sure (but might be wrong?) that Shane doesn't get 32 tracks to every 5 mins when he plays out, but still uses the technology to allow him to add extra things in, do rearrangements on the fly, still allowing for playing the entirity of a track when appropriate, etc...

It's a cool little mix, yeah send it in to Annie... although it doesn't come close to beating DJ Zinc's record of 146 tracks or something in his minimix for the show!

Posted by DJTim on Aug-09-2006 11:12:

Awesome !

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