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Posted by zoric on Aug-05-2006 15:59:

The Club Eau one from 2002 was great together with Energy 2000.


Posted by Ted Promo on Aug-05-2006 16:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Rainborn
Seriously, that cow is... an eye sore!


Makes you question life eh?

And I guess I need to hear that In White Rooms to Orange Theme transition to believe, but from listing alone that looks ed up.


Posted by DJ Patski on Aug-05-2006 16:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
01. Members of Mayday - 10 in 01 (Paul van Dyk Remix) 0.00
02. Utah Saints - Lost Vagueness 6.45
03. Airwave - Save Me 13.04
04. Green Martian - Industry 19.55
05. Faithless - We Come 1 (Rollo & Sister Bliss Mix) 23.26
06. Ralphy B - Massive 29.25
07. Jan Johnston - Flesh (DJ Tiesto Remix) 37.12
08. Altitude - Nightstalker (Original Mix) 43.46
09. Coast 2 Coast - Home (Original Mix) 47.55
10. Delerium - Innocente (DJ Tiesto Remix) 53.04
11. Fred Numf Vs. 5 point 0 - Globalisation 57.09
12. Minimalistix - Twin Peaks Theme (Original) 62.00
13. DJ Tiesto - Urban Train 67.37
14. Rank 1 - Such Is Life (Rank 1's Deep Dub Mix) 72.50
15. DJ Tiesto - Flight 643 78.00
16. Katana - Fancy Fair 83.49
17. Emmanuel Top - Tone 89.41
18. Mario Lopez - Sound Of Nature (Plug n Play Remix) 93.10
19. DJ Montana - The Bridge in The Park 96.40

club eau 2nd anniversary. My favourite tiesto set ever


Anniversary @ club EAU and energy 2000 are easily the best tiesto sets, I've heard some pretty crappy ones those - those two definately top it.

Especially the start of eau, 10 in 01 goes nuts.


Posted by MichaelBoogerd! on Aug-05-2006 16:40:

Livesets are not the be-all and end-all. I don't think releasing just 3-4 30 minute livesets this year has done Tijs any favours amongst the online communities that are never going to see him live anyway.

I would also be disappointed if that was all i heard from Tiesto in 2006.

However - at longer sets this year he has completely owned the crowd... even playing some very groovy classics like Vitalic - La Rock...

Give the guy a break. I'm pretty sure that if he had a radioshow or regular guest-slot podcast or something, then people would be thinking quite the opposite about his 'form' this year.


Posted by DJ Patski on Aug-05-2006 16:45:

I havn't heard one tiesto live set this year to be honest, I really should get my hands on some - but fuck has he made some awesome sets in the past.

I praise him alone for pumping Supermode - Tell me why at most of his sets these days, even though it's a housey song fuck is it catchy.

Tiesto & Sean Tyas is all I need.


Posted by MichaelBoogerd! on Aug-05-2006 16:49:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Patski
I havn't heard one tiesto live set this year to be honest, I really should get my hands on some - but fuck has he made some awesome sets in the past.

I praise him alone for pumping Supermode - Tell me why at most of his sets these days, even though it's a housey song fuck is it catchy.

Tiesto & Sean Tyas is all I need.



Playing a mixed-bag is why he has stood out... It was only during the very very melodic days did he stray down just 1 simplified style.

1985 - 1997 = very hard, but also with extended sets, a lot of variety & house & techno cuts.

2001 - present = back to playing accessible-prog, trance & techy shit.

Too bad everyone judges today's performance by the 4 years in between


Posted by dartrance on Aug-05-2006 17:04:

The_Chris: Agreed, i felt he has not played well since the end of 2003 as well.

However i did enjoy his concert set from day 2 in october 2004 and still think that was his last really decent "tiesto" sounding set.

Since then he's been really dull. I would still rank him above the direction armin went after that same period


Posted by dartrance on Aug-05-2006 17:04:

The_Chris: Agreed, i felt he has not played well since the end of 2003 as well.

However i did enjoy his concert set from day 2 in october 2004 and still think that was his last really decent "tiesto" sounding set.

Since then he's been really dull. I would still rank him above the direction armin or PVD went after that same period though.


Posted by ShaunLovesHouse on Aug-05-2006 17:35:

2002 was the last year I really enjoyed Tiesto's sets. However, I did love the Just Be Release Party @ Heineken Music Hall. But the longer things go on the more it seems like Tijs is simply done. I'd love to see him come back into the core of the genre but I don't see it happening.


Posted by humilis on Aug-05-2006 17:42:

quote:
Originally posted by pvdclubber
loveparade was ok


That was the worst set I heard from anyone there


Posted by Konijn on Aug-05-2006 18:30:

nice to see all the "intelligent" music fans judging every gig this year based on a shitty 19 minute gig for kiddies at love parade...

why not look here, here or last week in vienna:

01. DJ Ti�sto - Magik Journey (Intro Mix)
02. Ti�sto & Maxi Jazz - Dance4Life
03. Utah Saints - Lost Vagueness (Oliver Lieb Main Mix)
04. Exelios - World Of Life (Mac Zimms Remix)
05. Re:Locate - Rogue
06. Whiteroom - Someday (Instrumental Mix)
07. DJ Ti�sto - Suburban Train
08. Emjay & The Atari Babies - Make Some Noise (Silvio Ecomo's BTZN Mix)
09. Electrovoya - Effervesce
10. Darren Tate vs. Jono Grant - Let The Light Shine In
11. Yves Deruyter - Feel Free (ID Remix)
12. Robbie Rivera - Float Away (Gabriel & Dresden Edit)
13. Passive Resistance - Praiseworthy Tunes (Hoipolloi Mix)
14. Wighnomy Brothers - Wurz & Blosse
15. Jase From Outta Space - Do What You Want (Max Graham's Afterhours In. Montreal Mix)
16. Karen Overton - Your Loving Arms (Club Mix)
17. ID [Crobar #4 (04-05-06)]
18. Electro-Prompt - Beside Me (Gothek DC Remix)
19. Way Out West - Mindcircus (Gabriel & Dresden Club Mix)
20. Imogen Heap - The Moment I Said It (Scarab Remix)
21. BT - Mercury & Solace (12" Mastermix)
22. Oxia - Domino
23. Leama & Moor - Everything Matters (Matthew Dekay Club Mix)
24. Parker & Hanson - Let Me Be (Alex Axx Koss Remix)
25. ID [Museulplein #5]
26. A.M. - Arise (Exclusive Hammer & Funabashi Remix)
27. Sean Tyas - Lift
28. Ron van den Beuken - Find The Way (Instrumental Mix)
29. ID [Suikerrock #25]
30. Orjan - Arctic Globe
31. Beam - Silent Tears (DJ Shog's 2 Faces Dub)
32. Precursor - The Navigator
33. Vitalic - La Rock 01
34. Klaus Badelt - He's A Pirate (Ti�sto Remix)
35. First State - Evergreen
36. Way Out West - Don't Forget Me (Guy Ehmetores Remix)
37. Interstate - Remember Me (Terry Bones Remix)
38. Viper - Titty Twister
39. Nalin & Kane - Open Your Eyes (Reworked Club Mix)
40. Booka Shade - In White Rooms (Neo Mix)
41. Plato - Lieb Gewonnen
42. Mitch Wells - Where I (Chris & Kai vs. Levin Vocal Mix)
43. ID
44. 16 Bit Lolitas & Johan Cyber - Like A Memory
45. ID [Siofok #20]
46. Fonzerelli - Moonlight Party
47. DJ Ti�sto - Lethal Industry (Richard Durand Remix)
48. Divini & Warning - 4LB
49. Jam & Spoon - Odyssey To Anyoona

(cheers to michaelboogerd/djrvk for the vienna tracklist)


Posted by teknomonki on Aug-05-2006 18:49:

One thing you cant deny is that you dont get any suprises. He supports his label heavily (understandably) but he seems quite content to play whatever is big along with a few older numbers.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Aug-05-2006 18:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Konijn
last week in vienna:



I'm not going to lie... I've never been that big a Tiesto fan time period aside, but that tracklisting looks like pure unadulterated gold.


Posted by RapidFire on Aug-05-2006 19:04:

quote:
Originally posted by pvdclubber
loveparade was ok


my friend played me the video to that. we were cracking up at ever transition. it was fucking ridiculous.


Posted by Ian on Aug-05-2006 19:10:

quote:
Originally posted by teknomonki
One thing you cant deny is that you dont get any suprises. He supports his label heavily (understandably) but he seems quite content to play whatever is big along with a few older numbers.


that's just what he does though. he appeals to the easiest common denominator.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Aug-05-2006 19:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
that's just what he does though. he appeals to the easiest common denominator.



But you have to admit, if anything else, he's a gateway drug. I doubt that some n00b is going to get into electronic music by one day waking up and saying... I used to like rock, but now I've realized that vocals and melody are cheeze... J00F ftw!

So if anything else, Tiesto is important for that reason.


Posted by RapidFire on Aug-05-2006 19:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Konijn
nice to see all the "intelligent" music fans judging every gig this year based on a shitty 19 minute gig for kiddies at love parade...

why not look here, here or last week in vienna:

01. DJ Ti�sto - Magik Journey (Intro Mix)
02. Ti�sto & Maxi Jazz - Dance4Life
03. Utah Saints - Lost Vagueness (Oliver Lieb Main Mix)
04. Exelios - World Of Life (Mac Zimms Remix)
05. Re:Locate - Rogue
06. Whiteroom - Someday (Instrumental Mix)
07. DJ Ti�sto - Suburban Train
08. Emjay & The Atari Babies - Make Some Noise (Silvio Ecomo's BTZN Mix)
09. Electrovoya - Effervesce
10. Darren Tate vs. Jono Grant - Let The Light Shine In
11. Yves Deruyter - Feel Free (ID Remix)
12. Robbie Rivera - Float Away (Gabriel & Dresden Edit)
13. Passive Resistance - Praiseworthy Tunes (Hoipolloi Mix)
14. Wighnomy Brothers - Wurz & Blosse
15. Jase From Outta Space - Do What You Want (Max Graham's Afterhours In. Montreal Mix)
16. Karen Overton - Your Loving Arms (Club Mix)
17. ID [Crobar #4 (04-05-06)]
18. Electro-Prompt - Beside Me (Gothek DC Remix)
19. Way Out West - Mindcircus (Gabriel & Dresden Club Mix)
20. Imogen Heap - The Moment I Said It (Scarab Remix)
21. BT - Mercury & Solace (12" Mastermix)
22. Oxia - Domino
23. Leama & Moor - Everything Matters (Matthew Dekay Club Mix)
24. Parker & Hanson - Let Me Be (Alex Axx Koss Remix)
25. ID [Museulplein #5]
26. A.M. - Arise (Exclusive Hammer & Funabashi Remix)
27. Sean Tyas - Lift
28. Ron van den Beuken - Find The Way (Instrumental Mix)
29. ID [Suikerrock #25]
30. Orjan - Arctic Globe
31. Beam - Silent Tears (DJ Shog's 2 Faces Dub)
32. Precursor - The Navigator
33. Vitalic - La Rock 01
34. Klaus Badelt - He's A Pirate (Ti�sto Remix)
35. First State - Evergreen
36. Way Out West - Don't Forget Me (Guy Ehmetores Remix)
37. Interstate - Remember Me (Terry Bones Remix)
38. Viper - Titty Twister
39. Nalin & Kane - Open Your Eyes (Reworked Club Mix)
40. Booka Shade - In White Rooms (Neo Mix)
41. Plato - Lieb Gewonnen
42. Mitch Wells - Where I (Chris & Kai vs. Levin Vocal Mix)
43. ID
44. 16 Bit Lolitas & Johan Cyber - Like A Memory
45. ID [Siofok #20]
46. Fonzerelli - Moonlight Party
47. DJ Ti�sto - Lethal Industry (Richard Durand Remix)
48. Divini & Warning - 4LB
49. Jam & Spoon - Odyssey To Anyoona

(cheers to michaelboogerd/djrvk for the vienna tracklist)



someone tell me this was recorded?? Id love to own a decent Tiesto set.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Aug-05-2006 19:18:

quote:
Originally posted by RapidFire
someone tell me this was recorded?? Id love to own a decent Tiesto set.


+1. That set is really enticing.


Posted by Ian on Aug-05-2006 19:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
But you have to admit, if anything else, he's a gateway drug. I doubt that some n00b is going to get into electronic music by one day waking up and saying... I used to like rock, but now I've realized that vocals and melody are cheeze... J00F ftw!

So if anything else, Tiesto is important for that reason.


there's no saying it isn't important to people, a lot of people, admitting it or not, will list one of armin tiesto pvd etc as their early favourite djs before moving on. Some people dont move on, but a lot do. However a lot of people who slag him for unfair reasons (ie. because he's popular rather than cos of what he plays or how he plays it) cause problems.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Aug-05-2006 19:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
there's no saying it isn't important to people, a lot of people, admitting it or not, will list one of armin tiesto pvd etc as their early favourite djs before moving on. Some people dont move on, but a lot do. However a lot of people who slag him for unfair reasons (ie. because he's popular rather than cos of what he plays or how he plays it) cause problems.


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I agree 130%.


Posted by Push2005 on Aug-05-2006 19:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
there's no saying it isn't important to people, a lot of people, admitting it or not, will list one of armin tiesto pvd etc as their early favourite djs before moving on. Some people dont move on, but a lot do. However a lot of people who slag him for unfair reasons (ie. because he's popular rather than cos of what he plays or how he plays it) cause problems.


Why do you think it's called "moving on"? Precisely you'd like to say the music Ti�sto and his likes play is a lower form of electronic music. That's wrong; perhaps it's more accessable, yes, but thats all.

I changed a lot the past years / my taste changed. I'm more open to deep progressive trance and psytrance too nowadays (E.g Dousk or Whirloop); but I still enjoy Ti�sto sets. It's really no shame to listen to that music too. And I think I'll always find a time to listen to one of his sets in the future too now and then. I'm really not going to give this up because "I want to move on in a 'good' way".

Ontopic: I think Ti�sto is slightly getting up from the slumber he used to be in at 2004.


Posted by luisjb82 on Aug-05-2006 20:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Konijn
nice to see all the "intelligent" music fans judging every gig this year based on a shitty 19 minute gig for kiddies at love parade...
...
44. 16 Bit Lolitas & Johan Cyber - Like A Memory
45. ID [Siofok #20]
46. Fonzerelli - Moonlight Party
47. DJ Ti�sto - Lethal Industry (Richard Durand Remix)
48. Divini & Warning - 4LB
49. Jam & Spoon - Odyssey To Anyoona

(cheers to michaelboogerd/djrvk for the vienna tracklist)


I gotta say that ending does look tasty with the lolitas there...

I agree with some of the folks here, tastes change and that's all there is to it. I myself have moved on to less bpm's aka house but I don't fall on the usual hating of the big names just because they're more popular... It is what it is.


Posted by MichaelBoogerd! on Aug-05-2006 20:38:

Actually apart from the tunes he really likes (Progression, Ralphie) he does not support the label as hard as in say 2001-2.

If anything, the label is finally bigger than Tiesto's playlist - supporting the b-list careers of Cor Fijneman, Mark Norman and Ton TB as well as Tiesto's hits.

While i'd have to agree he is the focal point for new party-goers - partly from reputation, partly from accessibility... he can still 'drop' a deeper, thought out, intelligent built up set when he wants to.

It is what i just heard in Vienna (thanks Konijn for posting the t/list!) where he forgets to be the hyped-up-superstar, and just plays - those are nights to roll back the years to a time when the whole Tiesto scene was not so engulfed in hype machine.


Posted by miamitranceman on Aug-05-2006 20:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Push2005


Ontopic: I think Ti�sto is slightly getting up from the slumber he used to be in at 2004.



For sure. If you look at 2004 tracklists it's the same tracks over and over. He's adding more variation/styles again I think. Makes it more interesting.


Posted by basd on Aug-05-2006 21:57:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
that was Energy 2000. not the same as Trance Energy.

They aren't really different, though.


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