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Posted by Cribby on Aug-08-2006 18:47:

quote:
Originally posted by The Highroller

- KENNY GLASGOW - OMG! Get this man on the resident roster at Sonic PLEASE. That was such a fucking dark and dirty set. He has a very unique sound compared to all the other Toronto residents. I was amazed.


+1

I was telling Tara the same thing. Kenny G as a resident would be killer.


Posted by Platipus on Aug-08-2006 18:54:

if they have a liqour license they HAVE to serve tap water upon request..


Posted by harcourt on Aug-08-2006 18:58:

quote:
Originally posted by The Highroller


- NO FILLING UP WATER BOTTLES - This was just completely unacceptable. To me, it doesn't get any more shady than this when it comes to running an afterhours club. It was so fucking hot in there, and people were loosing sweat at a rate of 2 bottles of water per hour. Not only is this illegal, but it's also amoral. This is clearly a cash grab technique. With tickets at $40, and selling booze (which raised my eyebrow a bit in the first place), they shouldn't have gouged their customers again with this shadyness. I don't care if it's an "Industry thing" or not. This should not be allowed to happen.


oh you can fill them up, you just have to bribe them.


Posted by DigDeep on Aug-08-2006 19:16:

quote:
Originally posted by tw1tch
oh you can fill them up, you just have to bribe them.


I seriously think this is what is going on here. Even I (as staff), have been told by these bathroom attendents that I can not fill my water (only happened at the upstairs bathrooms). I told him I worked at the club, and all the sudden I was allowed to go in with it. Downstairs however, the water has always had a cold tap (you just need to turn it on) - and never had any problems.

When the club has extreme heat issues like it did on Sunday, the last thing we want is the club to be is a health hazard. The club wouldn't want to risk patrons health just to make some more profit on bottles of water ESPECIALLY when liquor is being sold.


Posted by daves on Aug-08-2006 19:21:

it's all about the stealth refills


Posted by The Highroller on Aug-08-2006 19:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorwhore
I seriously think this is what is going on here. Even I (as staff), have been told by these bathroom attendents that I can not fill my water (only happened at the upstairs bathrooms). I told him I worked at the club, and all the sudden I was allowed to go in with it. Downstairs however, the water has always had a cold tap (you just need to turn it on) - and never had any problems.

When the club has extreme heat issues like it did on Sunday, the last thing we want is the club to be is a health hazard. The club wouldn't want to risk patrons health just to make some more profit on bottles of water ESPECIALLY when liquor is being sold.


Not this time. The taps downstairs were only hot. Therefore, this was obviously planned ahead.


Posted by DigDeep on Aug-08-2006 19:59:

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Posted by TJB on Aug-08-2006 20:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorwhore
Did you try using the other faucet?

(i'm not being sarcastic)



LMAO

The girls bathroom downstairs doesn't even have the "other faucet" option... Only hot water....

IMO if you are going to charge $5 for water then people should be able to refill their bottles. If you don't want your customers to have this option then lower the price that you are selling it for.


Posted by rabbitjoker on Aug-08-2006 20:17:

SWEATY. WET. HOT. PEOPLE. TUNES.

OWWWW!


Posted by The Highroller on Aug-08-2006 20:34:

quote:
Originally posted by TJB
LMAO

The girls bathroom downstairs doesn't even have the "other faucet" option... Only hot water....

IMO if you are going to charge $5 for water then people should be able to refill there bottles. If you don't your customers to have this option then lower the price that you are selling it for.


This isn't even an option though. By law, you must have drinking water available from taps.

And yes, I did try the other faucet.


Posted by MarkT on Aug-08-2006 21:00:

I think the law is that water must be provided to patrons who request it, no?

so it would be in the club's interests to allow people to refill water at the taps rather than have the staff waste their time handing out free cups of water instead when they could focus on liquor/drink sales.

a quick search of the Liquor License Act of Ontario doesn't yield any mention of this apparent requirement though.

anyone?


Posted by rabbitjoker on Aug-08-2006 21:08:

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Posted by torontobarfly on Aug-08-2006 23:30:

last time there were issues over refilling water bottles didn't management come in here or on tribe saying that it wasn't their policy to prevent people from taking water bottles into the washrooms and it would never happen again...were they lying or do they have no idea what's going on inside their own club?

oh ya, i had a good time but sonic, c'mon, get yer shit together


Posted by torontobarfly on Aug-08-2006 23:58:

sonic's response to someone on tribe who complained about the water refill issue some time ago...



"Hello __________,

Thank you very much for bringing this to our attention...all of us in the office are unaware of any rule stating that people are not allowed to fill up there bottles of water. We will definitely look into this immediately and address the issue...

Kind Regards,

The Sonic Family"


Posted by infinity HiGH on Aug-09-2006 00:24:

quote:
Originally posted by MarkT
anyone?


While I can't give you any ACTUAL proof; I do work at a hotel and I know that we are *required* to provide any guest with water upon request. I don't know the actual specifics, and since Sonic isn't a restaurant or a hospitality business I'm not sure what rules would apply to them (it might even have something to do with whether the establishment serves food or not).


Posted by Jem_hadar on Aug-09-2006 01:08:

quote:
Originally posted by The Highroller


Graham, I always respect your reviews. They are the honest truth from ya and just lay it out. That's often so rare these days, when even if it was a shitty party but one's favourite DJ was playing, many will still say they had the best time of their life, or just not wanna bash their party bc they don't wanna admit their DJ let them down.

And I know how much you love and respect the club Sonic for being such a great club with impressive management.

I still really need to check out this place already, fuck! lol


Posted by musicsnob_NOT on Aug-09-2006 01:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
so then why are people complaining?


You are such a twat. There is a huge difference between a hot fun party and unsafe heat. You weren't there. You don't know what it was like in the club. So why comment on something you didn't experience? Oh, I forgot you're a twat.


Posted by van haaster on Aug-09-2006 01:51:

quote:
Originally posted by MarkT
I think the law is that water must be provided to patrons who request it, no?

so it would be in the club's interests to allow people to refill water at the taps rather than have the staff waste their time handing out free cups of water instead when they could focus on liquor/drink sales.

a quick search of the Liquor License Act of Ontario doesn't yield any mention of this apparent requirement though.

anyone?


Preventing access to water may be a criminal offense, especially if there was harm done to one of the club's patrons. It was hot enough in Sonic on sunday night that someone could have suffered dehydration, and possibly death. If someone died this way, there would be an investigation and charges could potentially be laid under the Criminal Code. It is possible that the charge might be criminal negligence causing death - basically murder. I believe there is a provision called "failure to provide the necessities of life" (or something like that). Basically it means that there is a fundamental responsibility for all persons to provide reasonable access to life-sustaining measures when another person's well being is endangered. I would think this would include providing water to a patron of a club, when needed.

The courts would look at the particulars of the case to determine if the club's conduct was a marked departure from the standards of what a "reasonable person" would do under the circumstances.


Posted by dallastar on Aug-09-2006 01:59:

nice pics RJ!

saw that you saw Jessica, hows she?


Posted by Orko on Aug-09-2006 02:22:




photochop anybody?


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-09-2006 06:55:

quote:
Originally posted by musicsnob_NOT
You are such a twat. There is a huge difference between a hot fun party and unsafe heat. You weren't there. You don't know what it was like in the club. So why comment on something you didn't experience? Oh, I forgot you're a twat.


because in EVERY TA review someone always bitches about something stupid.

"its too packed" and "its too hot" being the main ones.


Posted by chikaladka on Aug-09-2006 07:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
because in EVERY TA review someone always bitches about something stupid.

"its too packed" and "its too hot" being the main ones.



There is ALWAYS something to bitch about; long line-ups, gay guys, cracked out asians, pricing, heat, capacity, no water fill-ups, etc, etc.. and these things could ruin a great dj's performance, which is too bad.

But aside from that, this time the packness was unbearbale and ridiculous, even the patio was fucking packed all the time.. I've never seen/expected this from Sonic - especially this party.

And why can't people bitch, this is what a review is made for, no?


Posted by Skipper on Aug-09-2006 12:53:

quote:
Originally posted by musicsnob_NOT
You are such a twat. There is a huge difference between a hot fun party and unsafe heat. You weren't there. You don't know what it was like in the club. So why comment on something you didn't experience? Oh, I forgot you're a twat.


<3

Jayx1, the "problem" (and I use quotes because I don't think it's a problem) is that clubbing in TO is a competitive business, and people's standards are very high. its just a different scene here than all of those other exotic places where you used to party, ok?


Posted by Skipper on Aug-09-2006 12:56:

RJ, holy shit those pictures are funny.


Posted by The Highroller on Aug-09-2006 13:20:

quote:
Originally posted by chikaladka
There is ALWAYS something to bitch about; long line-ups, gay guys, cracked out asians, pricing, heat, capacity, no water fill-ups, etc, etc.. and these things could ruin a great dj's performance, which is too bad.

But aside from that, this time the packness was unbearbale and ridiculous, even the patio was fucking packed all the time.. I've never seen/expected this from Sonic - especially this party.

And why can't people bitch, this is what a review is made for, no?


I honestly didn't think it was that packed. It was busy, but bearable. The heat was the clincher.


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