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Posted by Vivid Boy on Aug-08-2006 22:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Allied Nations
50 Cent ft. Mobb Deep - Outta Control (Remix)

Ch00000n. Sick production.

Vivid will back me up on this.



Purple Pills from Eminem is great, and the whole Slim Shady Lp


oh u know it lol.what a sick fuckin beat. dre productions are killer. however most f dre's productions arent really rpoduced by him just executive produced by him. whoever he has working for him is a fuckin genious


Posted by Allied Nations on Aug-08-2006 22:16:

Hip hop was born as party music. It was born because MCs would get onto the mic and start rapping and rhyming to whatever beat a DJ was playing, in an attempt to get a crowd going. That's how it began.


Posted by Allied Nations on Aug-08-2006 22:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy
oh u know it lol.what a sick fuckin beat. dre productions are killer. however most f dre's productions arent really rpoduced by him just executive produced by him. whoever he has working for him is a fuckin genious


Lots of ghost producers we'll never know of.


Posted by jdat on Aug-08-2006 22:23:

quote:
Originally posted by bogartgreens
hip-hop went to utter shit right around the time 50 Cent dropped his first album...tbh his debut was good, lotsa good party tunes and stuff but im so sick of hearing about : booze, bitches, blunts, cars, jewelry...hip-hop was/is much more interesting when rappers confront problems/issues in today's culture using eloquent verbal tirades..built over a killer bassbeat of course..imo



As much as I hate the lyrical content and the image that most of todays commercial rap portrays I must say when you hear that stuff in a club with a sick sound installation it is pureeeeeeeee bliss.

Most of the commercial rap today is produced with bumping bass in mind and when you get to hear the stuff on a quality system it totally changes the mindset of what the music is.


Posted by isthatacow2 on Aug-08-2006 22:44:

ill solve all of you people's rap woes. fuck 50 cent, lloyd banks, mos def, the roots, and kanye bullshit.
2pac. best of both worlds. BEST lyrics and BEST beats. period.


Posted by Allied Nations on Aug-08-2006 22:46:

quote:
Originally posted by isthatacow2
ill solve all of you people's rap woes. fuck 50 cent, lloyd banks, mos def, the roots, and kanye bullshit.
2pac. best of both worlds. BEST lyrics and BEST beats. period.



Good to hear an opinion.


Posted by Nicolas Oliver on Aug-09-2006 00:42:

classic album, dope........now he sux tho


Posted by dallastar on Aug-09-2006 00:43:

Re: Will someone please explain to my brain...

quote:
Originally posted by Azz3D
that I just severed
a main vein with a chainsaw and I'm in pain?
I take a breather and sighed; either I'm high, or I'm nuts
Cause if you ain't tiltin this room, neither am I
So when you see your mom with a thermometer shoved in her ass
Then it probably is obvious I got it on with her
Cause when I drop this solo shit it's over with
I bought Cage's tape, opened it, and dubbed over it




fact: the best eminem album was the slim shady lp

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Posted by Vivid Boy on Aug-09-2006 02:07:

quote:
Originally posted by isthatacow2

2pac. best of both worlds. BEST lyrics and BEST beats. period.


HA! once dre left death row the beats turned to shit. dre didnt have too many tupac collaborations before he split. why do u think theres so many remix albums to pac's old shit?! cause the beats were garbage and the lyrics were too good for it


Posted by RapidFire on Aug-09-2006 02:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Azz3D
I have to say I feel the same way about music in general
I listen to the instrumental more than the words
probably like 70/30


for sho.

I love it when dance producers tackle hip hop. stuff like:

David Guetta f. Stereo MC's - Open Your Eyes
Chemical Brothers f. Q-tip - Galvanize
Massive Attack f. Mos Def - I Against I

all tight tracks and better than 90% of the hip hop out right now imo.


Posted by philliez on Aug-09-2006 02:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Allied Nations
It didn't start with them either. And if you think the rappers on that list have never rhymed about parties and having a good time you are wrong.

You know nothing about hip hop.


+1billllion


Posted by Allied Nations on Aug-09-2006 02:20:

quote:
Originally posted by philliez
+1billllion


HAH! I WIN! I GOT THE BLACK GUY ON MY SIDE!


Posted by RapidFire on Aug-09-2006 02:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Allied Nations
Purple Pills from Eminem is great, and the whole Slim Shady Lp


that'd be D12 homie.


Posted by philliez on Aug-09-2006 02:22:

lmfao

win by default.


hey after I pick up some bud I will make that review for you


Posted by philliez on Aug-09-2006 02:23:

quote:
Originally posted by RapidFire
that'd be D12 homie.



yes, and I would like to take this time to say RIP Proof, and if you haven't heard "Searching For Jerry Garcia" go get it now


Posted by RapidFire on Aug-09-2006 02:24:

quote:
Originally posted by philliez
yes, and I would like to take this time to say RIP Proof, and if you haven't heard "Searching For Jerry Garcia" go get it now


my favourite member. r.i.p


Posted by Allied Nations on Aug-09-2006 02:32:

quote:
Originally posted by RapidFire
that'd be D12 homie.


Yeah I know, Eminem is great.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Aug-09-2006 02:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Allied Nations
It didn't start with them either. And if you think the rappers on that list have never rhymed about parties and having a good time you are wrong.

You know nothing about hip hop.



Most interesting doesn't = first. That was simply a list of artists I find more interesting than the majority of the stuff that makes MTV2 summer hitlist.

And I also can't recall saying that parties and such are never their subjects... most interesting doesn't imply an absolute, whereby I state that every single thing these artists has ever done has the highest possible level of artistic merit. In fact, no artist can claim that. Even Led Zeppelin recorded some crappy tracks once in awhile.

So... what's your point with this post?


Posted by Allied Nations on Aug-09-2006 02:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Most interesting doesn't = first. That was simply a list of artists I find more interesting than the majority of the stuff that makes MTV2 summer hitlist.

And I also can't recall saying that parties and such are never their subjects... most interesting doesn't imply an absolute, whereby I state that every single thing these artists has ever done has the highest possible level of artistic merit. In fact, no artist can claim that. Even Led Zeppelin recorded some crappy tracks once in awhile.

So... what's your point with this post?


Because you are missing the point about hip hop and what it is. I'm not saying that a deeper, more "intelligent" track isn't hip hop, I'm just saying that that isn't what hip hop is all about. Some of the best hip hop in the world was written about having a great time. I find it degrading to the genre you dismiss all of it as shit.

Oh and will.i.am doesnt even write a lot of his own shit.


Posted by Dj_Skez on Aug-09-2006 03:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Allied Nations
Lots of ghost producers we'll never know of.


Thats true. Did you know that the beat to that classic track "Still Dre" was co-produced by Scott Storch when he was unknown.

Oh and Slylee I never said anything about 50 or Lloyd Banks being great lyricists. I listen to tracks from the early 90s, real lyricists like Big L and Big Pun who were 2 of the 5 best lyricists in hip hop history, but thats a whole other discussion.


Posted by Marc Summers on Aug-09-2006 03:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj_Skez
Oh and Slylee I never said anything about 50 or Lloyd Banks being great lyricists.


I disagree:




quote:
I got no pickup lines
I stay on the grind
I tell the hoes all the time
Bitch get in my car
I got my 64,
ridin' on Dayton spokes
And when I open that do'
Bitch get in my car


amazing.


Posted by Dj_Skez on Aug-09-2006 03:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Temperate
I disagree:






amazing.


You want to see a Hood rapper, watch this video of this bronx rapper.
The intro is mad funny, the name of the video is "your neighborhood hood nigga" THe link is below.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=AsOG3abo...related&search=


Posted by Marc Summers on Aug-09-2006 04:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj_Skez
You want to see a Hood rapper, watch this video of this bronx rapper.
The intro is mad funny, the name of the video is "your neighborhood hood nigga" THe link is below.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=AsOG3abo...related&search=




how can someone rap about such horrible things and make it seem cool.


Posted by Allied Nations on Aug-09-2006 05:09:

Kinda bummed Lebezniatnikov hasn't replied. Always love a good white on white hip hop debate. :/


Posted by Deeedeee on Aug-09-2006 06:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Allied Nations
Yeah, but that's not rly hip hop. Hip hop's roots are in partying and having a blast. As with house-


Really. I don't listen for that political correctness, free speech, new world order ish.

I like it bumpy & lite, not full of ego & political stigma.

Hip hop to me is Skee-Lo's...... I WISH I WAS A LITTLE BIT..

& Outkasts 'Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik'

& Biggie's 'Juicy' gawd that's my fave. Perfect! That and the Beastie Boy's 'Sure shot' The only 2 you'll ever need. Yep.


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