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Re: Re: Re: Viva la France!

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Originally posted by LazFX but if I have not, I still cannot see why a person never going to france is an issue, My question was not about France, but why france was doing what they are today.

That's perfectly all right. However, a statement like "What on earth is France good for?" doesn't really convey that intention. It conveys a certain bigotry.

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Originally posted by occrider

Dude!! I love pepe, he taught me how to be a playa back in the day lol

that was one smooth ass skunk!!

Re: Re: Re: Re: Viva la France!

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Originally posted by HardTranceProd That's perfectly all right. However, a statement like "What on earth is France good for?" doesn't really convey that intention. It conveys a certain bigotry.

Yeah you are right, but it would of been worse I guess If I would not of followed that with, "I understand the reason..." and "...was not beleiving that they were cowards..." that confused it even more..

Look the French are as bad as the Italians.

Is that something we all agree on?

This thread went nowhere fast, starting with the originating post.

Je parle un peu de francaise mais c'est la tous que je sais en quel que personne francaise. Je n'est pas les opinion en lui.

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Originally posted by Purple Je parle un peu de francaise mais c'est la tous que je sais en quel que personne francaise. Je n'est pas les opinion en lui.

You make as much sense as that kiddo twirling his faggity arms around in your silly avatar.

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Originally posted by jdat You make as much sense as that kiddo twirling his faggity arms around in your silly avatar.

Its from the 6 months course I did at Alliance Francaise,, I need to complete my two years course.

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Originally posted by HardTranceProd From what I know, nightclubs in America close at 2 am. (And in the very very advanced progressive city of NYC, at 4 am.)

Nightclubs stop serving in NYC at 4, but many don't close.

For example, Crobar is open until 6-7 almost every Friday night, sometimes later. PvD spun until 8:45 when he played there last year. Pacha is the same way. On Saturdays, Crobar has DJs like Victor Calderone that START at 5 am, playing until noon or so.

from my experiences travelling with french backpackers abroad i found them to be very friendly, cultured, and open-minded - which is more than i can say for quite a few other countries

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Originally posted by HardTranceProd Trancaholic, I disagree with the "very friendly" bit.

Well, maybe compared to the US (where most people are extremely open and friendly I think) the French can seem reserved (and at least their PM is an arrogant prick). However, in my experience, when you get past the initial meeting with people, you will find that the French are extremely funny and helpful. Kinda opposite to the US, where people are very likable at first encounter, but rarely involve themselves with strangers to a deeper level of commitment. Example: I was hiking in some mountain last time I was in France, and met this small dog about 1 km up the mountainside. It looked like shit, so I took it to a trough of water some distance down, and from there to my bike at the bottom of the mountain. However, I had no way of transporting the dog to a vet, no way of putting it on a leash, and the darned dog kept running back and forth on the road, and I feared that it might get run over/cause someone to drive off the road. So I found this French family who was having lunch in the open, and tried to explain to them that the dog wasn't mine, and that it needed to be taken to a vet/kennel. Their English was extremely bad, but in a matter of minutes, they promised to take the dog off my hands, and get it some help. I mean, how many people in the US would accept a dog from a complete stranger (and a foreigner at that), give it half their lunch, take time out of their day off, and drive it to a vet?
However, the language barrier is really a problem for the French. When you need help and ask for it in English, most get this expression of panic in their face and flee the scene.

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy Nightclubs stop serving in NYC at 4, but many don't close.

Crobar does keep the music running, but my impression is that everything else close down at 4. I've spent way too much time wandering the streets of the village looking for somewhere to keep the party going after four in the morning, to simply accept your statement at face value. I've never had that kind of problem in a European city (or even a European town).

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Originally posted by HardTranceProd From what I know, nightclubs in America close at 2 am. (And in the very very advanced progressive city of NYC, at 4 am.) From what I know, nightclubs in France (and all of Europe for that matter) close at 6-7 am.

eh? clubs close at like 4-5am+ in chicago and I'm really only qouting a couple places.............

Well it seems like France will be adding to an extra Zero to that previous number of 200 troops being sent to Lebanon.

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Originally posted by jdat Well it seems like France will be adding to an extra Zero to that previous number of 200 troops being sent to Lebanon.

Good.
Now if we can just get the U.N. to agree on some rules of engagement maybe the rest will jump in like they said they would...

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Originally posted by trancaholic Crobar does keep the music running, but my impression is that everything else close down at 4. I've spent way too much time wandering the streets of the village looking for somewhere to keep the party going after four in the morning, to simply accept your statement at face value. I've never had that kind of problem in a European city (or even a European town).

Most of them close because not being able to sell alcohol means that they can't be profitable.

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid Look the French are as bad as the Italians. Is that something we all agree on?

No.

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy Most of them close because not being able to sell alcohol means that they can't be profitable.

Which means that my original description was accurate.

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Originally posted by DaveSZ No.

Italians are much worse There is only one things italians are better at than french and that is making cars...france pwns them at everything else.

This article made me say "pwn3d" like no article in the last few years. I wish this was printed somewhere in major market front page of major newspaper. So, that it'd get picked up by all the sane people to laugh at France's cowardice:

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Beautiful Dreamers Iran and Hezbollah turn on the lights. Europe blinks! Seriously! By Denis Boyles A dream is a wish your heart makes when you�re fast asleep. � Jiminy Cricket The recurring reverie of Europe, of course, is a peaceful planet ruled by gentle people who work for large, international bureaucracies � like, say, Kofi Annan and the tribe of soft-spoken shepherds who dwell beneath the U.N.�s giant blue banner. But in the last few weeks, the results of two closely related events have left the Europeans tossing and turning as their wish-filled dream becomes a nightmare in which the U.N. stops producing pan-pipe music, and becomes instead a tool for increasing violence to a horrific level. The first event was the pathetic conclusion of the European-led diplomatic �initiative� intended to convince the Iranians not to build nuclear weapons. The European approach was a time-honored one, something they learned through centuries of colonial rule: They offered the natives baksheesh � called, more politely, �incentives.� At the same time they relied on that most modern of global institutions, the U.N., and produced a resolution, thus creating a carrot-and-stick strategy they thought might work. The outcome of this diplomatic �initiative� has been obvious forever. Not even Iranians can be persuaded carrots make a meal and confusing a U.N. resolution with a stick offends the dignity of sticks everywhere. The Iranians know that in the U.N., they will be placed under the care of the Russians and the Chinese and the Security Council resolution threatening them with unspecified punishments will be like every other Security Council resolution: Ignored. Nevertheless, the European press has been giving the cover of sincerity to Tehran for years; they have reported the comings and goings of European prime ministers and foreign secretaries with deference and dignity, as if these were serious people on serious missions. The Iranians themselves pulled back the curtain on this series of skits when they delivered their unkind response to the Europeans last Tuesday (and repeated, along with Russian guarantees of Security Council toothlessness, this morning in Le Monde): After years of make-believe negotiations, the Iranians said they were now finally ready to get �serious.� As this report in the Guardian suggests, the reaction to the Iranian threat in the European media has been fairly predictable: As an interviewer on the BBC�s World Service said on Wednesday, it�s an American problem, not a European one. This is a view reflected in this dossier of pieces in Le Monde and echoed in the Independent, where the Americans are afraid of what the paper calls a �threat� in sneer quotes. On the BBC and elsewhere, the Persians are being portrayed as shrewd tacticians nurtured by a thousand years of chess playing and carpet selling, while George Bush is seen as a poker player trying to bluff his way out of a bad situation. (But in the Daily Telegraph some signs of intelligent life: A poll today reveals that a majority of Britons believe Islam � and not just its crazy fundamentalists, either � poses a threat to the West.) The second event is related to the first in that it concerns the fact that Iran is already waging war in Lebanon. This is something the French-led passage of Security Council resolution 1701 is supposed to arrest by bringing peace to the region by, among other things, disarming Hezbollah. Too late the French realized to their horror that if they wanted peace, they would have to be among the ones who imposed it. For days, the French tried to weasel out of their own resolution; Le Figaro dutifully editorialized in support (ridiculing Fijians along the way!) of Chirac�s �caution� in sending in only 200 soldiers � even as it ran a round-up of European press ridicule in which the Italians and others accused France of cowardice and deceit. The response was shrill, especially for Europeans skilled in cynical non-responses. Even the Belgians laughed: �France retreats,� said RTBF. By Wednesday, U.N. critic Jed Babbin was on the BBC to filet the French not once, but twice. The second time was on BBC2�s Newsnight when Babbin was booked opposite a nearly speechless French politician. She grew wide-eyed as Babbin coolly explained that in resolution 1701, France had gotten all that Chirac had demanded � and it still wasn�t enough to spur the country into accepting the leadership role it had claimed as a right in Lebanon. He was relentless, honest, and precise in outlining French duplicity. France, he said in the most stinging insult of all, could no longer be considered a �serious nation.� This left the French politician stammering like Elmer Fudd. It was the best demonstration of French cooking I�ve seen since Julia Childs died. Finally came yesterday�s announcement on French television � and reported here by Le Figaro � by a tanned and surprisingly sober looking Chirac that France would send 1,600 more troops into Lebanon where they will avoid contact with Hezbollah as the Iranians, who have already indicated that nuking Israel isn�t an entirely unpleasant idea, proceed to rearm the Hezbo terrorists. In the end, it wasn�t the European media or a sweet dream of peace that stirred the French government to take what even the BBC reports will surely be a meaningless stand in Lebanon no matter how many men the Europeans put on the ground. The thing that finally moved France was Italy�s offer to send in 3000 men. According to La Repubblica, Annan called Romano Prodi and asked his country to be ready to take command, since the French were vanishing. Italians! That was too much, even for France. First the World Cup, now this! � Denis Boyles is author of Vile France: Fear, Duplicity, Cowardice and Cheese.

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Originally posted by tathi from my experiences travelling with french backpackers abroad i found them to be very friendly, cultured, and open-minded - which is more than i can say for quite a few other countries

Well, that's probably why they were out of France - they were sent packing when rest of the population did not find them "asshole enough". Besides, being a backpacker - you realize that it is easier to get food and shelter when you're less of an asshole to strangers.

I went to Paris for 10 days - it was the worst trip I ever had. I would not go back to France even if Jean Michel Jarre offered to fly me over there for free and give me a one-on-one concert, complete with visuals, lasers, and fireworks and threw in a year's worth of free lessons by him.

Considering how much of a JMJ fan I am - that should tell you how much I hate France.



//ok... I may be exaggerating - because Jean, if you're reading - you know I'd hang with you dawg, and you don't have to give me a year's worth of lessons - I'll be happy with even 11 months. So, hit my up on my celly? We'll schedule a Rendez-vous somewhere on Les Chants Magnetiques? )

you know what i'd get a good laugh from.. if the French were to head to New York and take back their special little gift they left on Liberty Island back in 1885

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Originally posted by HardTranceProd From what I know, nightclubs in America close at 2 am. (And in the very very advanced progressive city of NYC, at 4 am.) From what I know, nightclubs in France (and all of Europe for that matter) close at 6-7 am.

Stop moaning

Clubs in Ireland close usually at 2-2.30am. Ive been booted out of nightclubs before 1.30.

There is no such thing as an all night event here, doesnt exist.

Hell, theres not even a nightclub LICENCE here. Pub owners have to fill in a form MONTHLY to apply for a "Dance hall extension", which lets them run as a nightclub until the stupidly early closing time.

And there is a push from government to bring the closing times back to 1.30am.

God I hate thiscountry.

What do you get when you send 2000 french soldiers into a conflict zone?




























































4000 hands in the air

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Originally posted by emc^2 Well, that's probably why they were out of France - they were sent packing when rest of the population did not find them "asshole enough". Besides, being a backpacker - you realize that it is easier to get food and shelter when you're less of an asshole to strangers.

you sound like a bigot, which means i can't blame the french for treating you with condescension, i would have done the same

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