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Posted by jey on Aug-20-2006 19:54:

then they shouldnt act like ones,

i find it hard to take in that a pro that knows his stuff would spend weeks and months on little bits of a track, if i was that slow at my job id be unemployed!!

they know exactly what they are doin and should be able to eq quite quickly to fit bits into a mix along with comperssion etc.....

i dont really know what sounds rite so some proper awnsers was all i wanted, not a typing lesson...... been at the producing for a yr an a half but learning this from internet alone is seriously hard goin,

were did u or others learn how and what to do??? trial an error cant be the awnser!


Posted by Drik on Aug-20-2006 21:31:

Come back when you've actually put some effort in it. You don't create music in 10 minutes, just noise..

I spend about 40-50 hours on a track before its finished, take that in regard.


Posted by DJ Shibby on Aug-20-2006 21:55:

quote:
Originally posted by jey
u must be a geak! wiv is short for with, do u own a mobile fone, do u know how to text! ur 23 and the smartest thing u thought to say was "u spelt with wrong" u need to get out!


Ah, sorry... I thought you were asking what was wrong wiv your sentence.


Posted by djms on Aug-20-2006 22:27:

"wiv" regards to the sample it sounds ok what youve done. get loads more done though and post it up for peeps to comment.


Posted by substorm on Aug-20-2006 22:35:

quote:
Originally posted by jey
then they shouldnt act like ones,

i find it hard to take in that a pro that knows his stuff would spend weeks and months on little bits of a track, if i was that slow at my job id be unemployed!!


Thats why some of the famous names have sound-engineers do the hard work for them!

quote:
they know exactly what they are doin and should be able to eq quite quickly to fit bits into a mix along with comperssion etc.....


If you wanna get there a little faster, you should take sound design lessons, maybe. Otherwise you�ll just have to practise, like most of us do!
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quote:
i dont really know what sounds rite so some proper awnsers was all i wanted, not a typing lesson...... been at the producing for a yr an a half but learning this from internet alone is seriously hard goin,


Well, as mentioned before, you should try to put some effort in your productions, and with time try to gain your respect here. If you meet new people for the first time in the real world, i will promise you that no one will talk to you or give you an� help, if you start by calling them wankers, or what ever! Wtf, i would give you some real "whoop ass" that what you would get from me.

And regarding if it sound right! You need to practise youre ears, just like any part of your body. In fact, there are different things you can do to trainf them, but nothing i can think of now, but google it.

And one essential thing to do is to LEARN your gear, you monitors/headphones, get the best you can, it will make a differens and you will not kill you ears to soon. :P


quote:
were did u or others learn how and what to do??? trial an error cant be the awnser!


Well my peronal experience, is from when i was about 17 (Now im 25) or something, i got my hands on the old software Rebirth, and from that day and forward, i have just done this for the fun of it and im learnig new things every day!

By saynig that, i hope you understand how much work there actully is behind all this, and thats why most of us think its ame when a new guy like you, just comes in and think you will get a whole tutorial on what to do.. etc etc.. just by posting a beat made in 10 minutes. But i think you know thats not how things go here. If you still dont get it, then u must be retarded or something.

Cheers C

P.S.
Please stop writing in some weard "sub" english. There are more nationalities then british here, so by writing i a good way, i promise that you will get more people to understand you and by that more people can help you out much faster.

D.s. Sorry for my bad english, im from sweden and it was to long ago when i was in school!

Cheers


Posted by jey on Aug-20-2006 23:12:

what a turn around, everyone is gettin on fine now!! good.....

i have takin all on board and will get stuck into a tune, the last wile all ive been doin is what u heard on the sample, trying to perfect that first b4 messin wiv melodys, pads etc, someone said the sample sounded ok but that cant be rite as i dont really know what im doin, just tweaking the eq's and guessin it sounds ok, sometimes i thing i sounds really good until i listin to armin or ferry and then i realise its all wrong!!

substorm... hell of a tutorial but u couldnt kick my ass! ground and pound would happen to u....alough ur dead on...

people were bein silly and to blunt or cheeky so they got the title of w*****s......

this discussion has opened my mind and i feel a benfit of it so im gona make 2 or 3 mins of a track and ill work on it for 14 days then post it back in here for all to criticise which is what i want the more the merrier!!

any good uploaders???? and y mp3??? i thought mp3 was shit for quality, infact that is true...!

j........


Posted by substorm on Aug-20-2006 23:34:

quote:
Originally posted by jey
what a turn around, everyone is gettin on fine now!! good.....

i have takin all on board and will get stuck into a tune, the last wile all ive been doin is what u heard on the sample, trying to perfect that first b4 messin wiv melodys, pads etc, someone said the sample sounded ok but that cant be rite as i dont really know what im doin, just tweaking the eq's and guessin it sounds ok, sometimes i thing i sounds really good until i listin to armin or ferry and then i realise its all wrong!!

substorm... hell of a tutorial but u couldnt kick my ass! ground and pound would happen to u....alough ur dead on...

people were bein silly and to blunt or cheeky so they got the title of w*****s......

this discussion has opened my mind and i feel a benfit of it so im gona make 2 or 3 mins of a track and ill work on it for 14 days then post it back in here for all to criticise which is what i want the more the merrier!!

any good uploaders???? and y mp3??? i thought mp3 was shit for quality, infact that is true...!

j........


Damn, your a spicy one, funny that of all things i just wrote, the thing i wrote with the "whoop ass", was the only thing that gut stuck in your head.

Excuse me for saying this, but you must be an idiot! Sad!


Posted by DeZmA on Aug-20-2006 23:50:

quote:
Originally posted by substorm
Excuse me for saying this, but you must be an idiot! Sad!


I admire you having tried to take him serious and take your time to reply. Just put him on the ignore list (now dj alliance has a buddy on the list )


Posted by substorm on Aug-21-2006 00:03:

Dunno

quote:
Originally posted by DeZmA
I admire you having tried to take him serious and take your time to reply. Just put him on the ignore list (now dj alliance has a buddy on the list )


Well, i gave it a shot, and thought maybe he would take some advice!

Thanks!


Posted by Derivative on Aug-21-2006 01:40:

quote:
Originally posted by jey
people were bein silly and to blunt or cheeky so they got the title of w*****s......

this discussion has opened my mind and i feel a benfit of it so im gona make 2 or 3 mins of a track and ill work on it for 14 days then post it back in here for all to criticise which is what i want the more the merrier!!

any good uploaders???? and y mp3??? i thought mp3 was shit for quality, infact that is true...!

j........


A couple of things.

1) Be aware that many of us on this forum have absolutely no problem giving feedback and tips. However you have to make our life easier too. This type of thread comes up every day and after a while we get tired of repeating ourselves. So your first port of call is to always use the search tool. If you cannot find an answer there feel free to post it here, in plain english so our European friends can understand what you are saying.

2) Use a decent host. I already suggested www.putfile.com. The reason for this should be obvious. If you want comments on your work make it easier on the people you are asking for help by uploading an mp3 so it can be downloaded quickly. Use a host that does not repeatedly crash my browser and throw pop ups in my face. Its just courtesy. If I have to spend 11 minutes just to get your 10 minutes of work playing in Winamp and then comment on it, there is a problem and you will have to forgive me if I think 'fuck this - I have better things I could be doing with my time.'

3) You don't need to spend 2 weeks writing a tune. Nobody is suggesting that. However there has to be some give and take. If you expect us to go to the effort of sorting out your shitty hosting for you then take the time out to teach you the production ropes whilst you put very little effort in at your end, don't be surprised when you get rebuffed like this. If you play nice, take the time out to respond calmly and think about the needs of other people on this board then you will be treated in kind. Respect here works both ways and you earn it.

I have no problem helping you out but I type essays almost daily for other people on this board too. You aren't the only person who wants help. Make my life easier and I'll make your life easier. Deal?


Posted by DJ Shibby on Aug-21-2006 01:45:

quote:
Originally posted by jey
what a turn around, everyone is gettin on fine now!! good.....

i have takin all on board and will get stuck into a tune, the last wile all ive been doin is what u heard on the sample, trying to perfect that first b4 messin wiv melodys, pads etc, someone said the sample sounded ok but that cant be rite as i dont really know what im doin, just tweaking the eq's and guessin it sounds ok, sometimes i thing i sounds really good until i listin to armin or ferry and then i realise its all wrong!!

substorm... hell of a tutorial but u couldnt kick my ass! ground and pound would happen to u....alough ur dead on...

people were bein silly and to blunt or cheeky so they got the title of w*****s......

this discussion has opened my mind and i feel a benfit of it so im gona make 2 or 3 mins of a track and ill work on it for 14 days then post it back in here for all to criticise which is what i want the more the merrier!!

any good uploaders???? and y mp3??? i thought mp3 was shit for quality, infact that is true...!

j........


I can't even read this strange blob of sub-human non-lingual garbage.

Ooooooooooooooooh, I know, I'm harsh.

The fact is, he sounds like he should be producing hip hop, and he should be over at the futureproducers forum. They can read your method of speaking better.

If I met someone who talked the way I *think* you talk, in real life, I wouldn't give your trashy waste of time one second of mine.

Good luck with all that though, anyway.

Ciao.


Posted by retiro on Aug-21-2006 05:46:

I got the PM from him! lol!

"what! are u jokin?? how can it sound fine! it sounds ok to me, compair it to a finished tune and it does lack power, kick and bass and precussion i want to master b4 i go into synth sounds etc so thats y my sample was of that only and i uploaded it in wav because wav is better quality than mp3, wanted it to sound as good as i could...."

He wanted all us to waste 10 minutes answering the question he can quite clearly answer himself!


Posted by sterilis on Aug-21-2006 10:53:

quote:
Originally posted by jey
were did u or others learn how and what to do??? trial an error cant be the awnser!


i learnt most of my stuff from this forum by helping others i was helped also. this forum has really good people on it who have helped me uncountable times over the year.

when you get advice from substorm take it and dont whine at him. he gives away his secrets of his productions to help people on this board which most people would never do. if you need help with bass check out his reply to my thread about 4 months back that will surely sort your bass out.

and remember be nice!


Posted by substorm on Aug-21-2006 11:29:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_kane when you get advice from substorm take it and dont whine at him. he gives away his secrets of his productions to help people on this board which most people would never do. if you need help with bass check out his reply to my thread about 4 months back that will surely sort your bass out.


Thank you mr Kane! Nice to hear that i could help out!

Cheers
C


Posted by Drik on Aug-21-2006 12:25:

I must say I'm a bit amazed really..

Here substorm actually does take some time to help you by answering your questions and offering help, and you respond in a rude manner.. just amazing..

Substorm, skit i den h�r idioten, han �r inte v�rd tiden..


Posted by Jason_R on Aug-21-2006 12:28:

quote:
Originally posted by substorm
Thank you mr Kane! Nice to hear that i could help out!

Cheers
C


You've hepled me as well. That v station supersaw sounds great on my K station. Thanks!


Posted by substorm on Aug-21-2006 13:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Drik
I must say I'm a bit amazed really..

Here substorm actually does take some time to help you by answering your questions and offering help, and you respond in a rude manner.. just amazing..

Substorm, skit i den h�r idioten, han �r inte v�rd tiden..


N�, jag har insett det nu, men jag trodde att han kanske bara k�nde sig missf�rst�dd eller n�tt.. men .. aja! :P


Posted by substorm on Aug-21-2006 13:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Jason_R
You've hepled me as well. That v station supersaw sounds great on my K station. Thanks!


Cool! i had almost forgot about that one! Im soon gonna make a quick sub bassline tutorial soon. Just something new i have discoverd! You�ll notice when its up!


Posted by jey on Aug-21-2006 16:18:

i wasnt rude to substorm, i complemented him by saying "great tutorial" and joked that he couldnt kick my ass, no rudeness in that!

and i said i took all onboard what has been said to me but still others were rude again!

dj_kane ur dead on mate....

what a mad forum, only wanted to know if the kick, precussion and basses fitted in with each other!!


Posted by DeZmA on Aug-21-2006 16:47:

quote:
Originally posted by jey
and i said i took all onboard what has been said to me but still others were rude again!


You don't expect people to be friendly if you use the f word 3 times in a sentence because someone told you to write English and not some kind of slang do you?


Posted by retiro on Aug-21-2006 19:53:

quote:
Originally posted by jey what a mad forum, only wanted to know if the kick, precussion and basses fitted in with each other!!


Oh, well no!


Posted by jey on Aug-21-2006 20:22:

ok startin again, 3hours this took! for 30 seconds!

its on putfile.....

let the complaints begin lol.....

http://www.putfile.com/jeypower

mp3 does it know justice at all, big loss in sound quality....!


Posted by DeZmA on Aug-21-2006 20:34:

why don't you encode at 1 kb/s


Posted by substorm on Aug-21-2006 20:41:

Im out of this one, your on your own dude!

Cheers


Posted by retiro on Aug-21-2006 20:47:

With you Substorm!


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