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Posted by colibri on Sep-05-2006 17:50:

Posted by euphoria on Sep-05-2006 18:34:

Since he was doing a documentary at the time does anyone know if the whole incident was videotaped?

Posted by verndogs on Sep-05-2006 18:37:

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Originally posted by euphoria
Since he was doing a documentary at the time does anyone know if the whole incident was videotaped?

yes it was

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/TV/...eath/index.html

Posted by tiesto14 on Sep-06-2006 01:45:

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Originally posted by Miss Bliss
The dude spent his whole life doing conservation work for the animals you want to leave alone (and leave to be razed out of their territory by humans)

I dont care what he did....he antagonized animals in their natural habitat on TV......i am all for animals killing humans that do that...same goes for shit head hunters.

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Originally posted by Miss Bliss
tiesto14, why don't you tell us the next animal entertainer who's gonna die, and how?

anyone who does stupid shit like this -

Posted by tiesto14 on Sep-06-2006 01:47:

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Originally posted by InterMilan31
He never bothered any animals he loved them and his passion was courageous if you expect us to be like oh great he died saw that coming then you should really check yourself.

what are you on about....he was always fucking with animals in their own enviroment.

I have as much sympathy for him as i do for Sigfried (or Roy) getting attacked by the tiger.

Posted by dj tek on Sep-06-2006 01:48:

lol

Posted by vtec junkie on Sep-06-2006 02:48:

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Originally posted by tiesto14
what are you on about....he was always fucking with animals in their own enviroment.

I have as much sympathy for him as i do for Sigfried (or Roy) getting attacked by the tiger.

You obviously have no clue....

All you see is some crazy dude jumping on crocs.....You think his one and only purpose was to get attention? Wrong. If it wasn't for people like him......we would all be less educated on these animals and more people would get hurt and killed by them. As fucked up as it sounds.....he prob saved a shit load of lives in the future by getting killed by that ray.....now everybody and their mother knows for a fact that a sting ray CAN kill you.....and at least he died doing something that he loved doing......how can you not respect that? And your comment about shit head hunters lol......yeah ok if it wasn't for hunters.....your fucking back yard would be overtaken by deer with killer antlers.

Posted by tiesto14 on Sep-06-2006 03:06:

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Originally posted by vtec junkie
You obviously have no clue....

All you see is some crazy dude jumping on crocs.....You think his one and only purpose was to get attention? Wrong. If it wasn't for people like him......we would all be less educated on these animals and more people would get hurt and killed by them. As fucked up as it sounds.....he prob saved a shit load of lives in the future by getting killed by that ray.....now everybody and their mother knows for a fact that a sting ray CAN kill you.....and at least he died doing something that he loved doing......how can you not respect that?

So without Steve Irwin you feel people are too moronic to know a crocodile, poisonous snakes and fish with stingers on them can potentially harm you? Wow that doesnt say much for the intelligence of the human race...now does it?

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Originally posted by vtec junkie
And your comment about shit head hunters lol......yeah ok if it wasn't for hunters.....your fucking back yard would be overtaken by deer with killer antlers.

Killer antlers? where do you think i live? Buffalo or Maine?

Yes we have deer but there is no state wide organization to rid these antler rearing creatures into oblivion to save our children's lives while they play on the swing sets.

Sorry but hunters, for the most part, do not kill deer, moose, bears etc etc to help the enviroment....they do it for the sport....however i have no problem with hunters - so long as they eat their kill...but just for the sport is obscene.

Posted by vtec junkie on Sep-06-2006 03:28:

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Originally posted by tiesto14
So without Steve Irwin you feel people are too moronic to know a crocodile, poisonous snakes and fish with stingers on them can potentially harm you? Wow that doesnt say much for the intelligence of the human race...now does it?

Yes actually I do think most people are very uneducated when it comes to animals.....that is my point. How many people on TA do you think already knew that a sting ray could kill you.....not too many. How would you know the fucking snake was poisonous if it wasn't for people like him? People like him are not out to disturb animals and take them away from their habitat. People like him are the reason we have conservation forests to protect these animals.....and it's uneducated people that keep taking that away from the animals....thus creating more dandeous encounters with animals.

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Originally posted by tiesto14
Killer antlers? where do you think i live? Buffalo or Maine?

Yes we have deer but there is no state wide organization to rid these antler rearing creatures into oblivion to save our children's lives while they play on the swing sets.

Sorry but hunters, for the most part, do not kill deer, moose, bears etc etc to help the enviroment....they do it for the sport....however i have no problem with hunters - so long as they eat their kill...but just for the sport is obscene.

Sport or no sport they control the over population on them weather they eat it or stuff it and hang it on the wall.

Posted by Shamez214 on Sep-06-2006 03:31:

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Originally posted by vtec junkie
Yes actually I do think most people are very uneducated when it comes to animals.....that is my point. How many people on TA do you think already knew that a sting ray could kill you.....not too many. How would you know the fucking snake was poisonous if it wasn't for people like him? People like him are not out to disturb animals and take them away from their habitat. People like him are the reason we have conservation forests to protect these animals.....and it's uneducated people that keep taking that away from the animals....thus creating more dandeous encounters with animals.

Ding ding ding.

I have definitely learned tons of shit about animals from watching documentaries.

Posted by DOOMBOT on Sep-06-2006 03:37:

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Originally posted by Shamez214
Ding ding ding.

I have definitely learned tons of shit about animals from watching documentaries.

Same here. Its not like all he or any of the other people say... Crocs are dangerous............ and then there is this huge silent pause. There are all sorts of neat things about animals people would never dream of knowing if it werent for people with a passion for this kinda stuff like Steve.

Posted by vtec junkie on Sep-06-2006 03:42:

Fires are dangerous.....so fire fighters should stay away from them. That burgler has a gun.....tell the police to stay the fuck away!!!

Posted by tiesto14 on Sep-06-2006 03:43:

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Originally posted by vtec junkie
Yes actually I do think most people are very uneducated when it comes to animals.....that is my point. How many people on TA do you think already knew that a sting ray could kill you.....not too many.

The chances of being killed by a stingray are so remote....what happened was a freak accident....one should not be more afraid from a stingray then they are from crossing the street...so long as commonsense is used.

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Originally posted by vtec junkie
How would you know the fucking snake was poisonous if it wasn't for people like him?.

I highly doubt when someone is hiking in the woods that when they come across a random snake do they have the quickness to decipher through the multiple images of different snake kinds that Irwin showed, to make an on the spot quick decision on whether or not that particular snake is in fact poisonous...one with a brain would determine they are not qualified to distinguish the difference between a poisonous and nonpoisoness snake and back away from it.

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Originally posted by vtec junkie
People like him are not out to disturb animals and take them away from their habitat. People like him are the reason we have conservation forests to protect these animals.....and it's uneducated people that keep taking that away from the animals....thus creating more dandeous encounters with animals.

You may be right there....but i always saw him pissing animals off to evoke some sort of reaction from them and that is not ok with me.

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Originally posted by vtec junkie
Sport or no sport they control the over population on them weather they eat it or stuff it and hang it on the wall.

Again i disagree,,,,,the population (seems we are tlaking about deer here) is not reduced by hunters more than it is by chemicals, fences and many other devices to ward off dear......sport hunters play a roll, yes, but a limited one at best.

Posted by vtec junkie on Sep-06-2006 03:47:

I'm patiently waiting for tiesto14's 'Book on Life'

Posted by tiesto14 on Sep-06-2006 03:47:

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Originally posted by vtec junkie
Fires are dangerous.....so fire fighters should stay away from them. That burgler has a gun.....tell the police to stay the fuck away!!!

Big difference between a fireman fighting a harmful fire and a police man chasing a criminal to a man who walks up to an innocent species in it's natural habitat for ratings.

Posted by vtec junkie on Sep-06-2006 03:49:

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Originally posted by tiesto14
Big difference between a fireman fighting a harmful fire and a police man chasing a criminal to a man who walks up to an innocent species in it's natural habitat for ratings.

So another words.....Cave men already knew what to do when they saw a fire???

Posted by tiesto14 on Sep-06-2006 03:52:

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Originally posted by vtec junkie
So another words.....Cave men already knew what to do when they saw a fire???

this is going nowhere fast

Posted by Shamez214 on Sep-06-2006 03:56:

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Originally posted by tiesto14
I highly doubt when someone is hiking in the woods that when they come across a random snake do they have the quickness to decipher through the multiple images of different snake kinds that Irwin showed, to make an on the spot quick decision on whether or not that particular snake is in fact poisonous...one with a brain would determine they are not qualified to distinguish the difference between a poisonous and nonpoisoness snake and back away from it.

The point is that he is, in essence, an educator. Not everyone is going to go out and read the millions of books there are out there about animals. How do you think all this information is gathered? Do you think scientists just study these animals from a distance? They have to get up close and personal with them in order to study them. The only difference is that Steve Irwin, Jeff Corwin, etc. do it on TV and scientists just do it to collect the information.

SOMEBODY has to get close to these animals. Otherwise we wouldn't know anything about them.

Posted by vtec junkie on Sep-06-2006 03:59:

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Originally posted by Shamez214
The point is that he is, in essence, an educator. Not everyone is going to go out and read the millions of books there are out there about animals. How do you think all this information is gathered? Do you think scientists just study these animals from a distance? They have to get up close and personal with them in order to study them. The only difference is that Steve Irwin, Jeff Corwin, etc. do it on TV and scientists just do it to collect the information.

SOMEBODY has to get close to these animals. Otherwise we wouldn't know anything about them.

It's like he popped out his mother belly and already knew that Tiesto was god and his favorite number was 14.

Posted by tiesto14 on Sep-06-2006 05:36:

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Originally posted by vtec junkie
It's like he popped out his mother belly and already knew that Tiesto was god and his favorite number was 14.

Why are you taking this to personal attacks bro?

Posted by Konijn on Sep-06-2006 12:47:

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Originally posted by Shamez214

SOMEBODY has to get close to these animals. Otherwise we wouldn't know anything about them.

there's a difference between getting close for study and observation (like most documentarians) and manhandling dangerous animals like irwin.
yes, documentaries are an incredible source of information, but you don't need to jump on a crocodile, stick your head in its mouth, and poke it in the eye with a stick to learn that its teeth are sharp.

respect to the guy for loving animals and being truly committed to the environment (though he chose conservation over preservation), but he took uneccessary and foolhardy risks.

anyone who works with feral animals is in some degree of danger, but certain people, for reasons ranging from over-the-top exhuberance (irwin) to their own pathologies (timothy treadwell), increase the danger exponentially. [go watch "grizzly man" the documentary about the bear-loving treadwell who was mauled to death, along with his girlfriend, by the subjects he so admired]
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and as for roy who was attacked by the tiger in vegas: you force a tiger to ride tricycles in a funny hat around a casino and sooner or later you're gonna have probs...

Posted by dj tek on Sep-06-2006 14:37:

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Originally posted by Konijn
there's a difference between getting close for study and observation (like most documentarians) and manhandling dangerous animals like irwin.
yes, documentaries are an incredible source of information, but you don't need to jump on a crocodile, stick your head in its mouth, and poke it in the eye with a stick to learn that its teeth are sharp.

respect to the guy for loving animals and being truly committed to the environment (though he chose conservation over preservation), but he took uneccessary and foolhardy risks.

anyone who works with feral animals is in some degree of danger, but certain people, for reasons ranging from over-the-top exhuberance (irwin) to their own pathologies (timothy treadwell), increase the danger exponentially. [go watch "grizzly man" the documentary about the bear-loving treadwell who was mauled to death, along with his girlfriend, by the subjects he so admired]
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and as for roy who was attacked by the tiger in vegas: you force a tiger to ride tricycles in a funny hat around a casino and sooner or later you're gonna have probs...

^^ Truth right there.

Posted by Dirichlet on Sep-06-2006 16:31:

I feel bad for his wife and kids... and he was doing something he loved... power to him.

Posted by djquick83 on Sep-06-2006 16:43:

Posted by ludawg23 on Sep-06-2006 16:52:

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Originally posted by vtec junkie
Fires are dangerous.....so fire fighters should stay away from them. That burgler has a gun.....tell the police to stay the fuck away!!!

Your comparison here has no reference to stingrays and is completely retarded. Stingsrays are considered non-lethal animals and to reference them against deadly fires and firearms is irrelevant.

There's a reason why stingrays are in the petting areas of aquariums and what not. If you saw a stingray in the ocean, would you naturally be afraid of it in comparison to that of a...shark? I don't think so.

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