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Posted by torontotrance on Mar-12-2002 00:42:

Smile

TTA EDIT #1..........edited since what i had to say in this post earlier.......was useless!


Posted by Vivid Boy on Mar-12-2002 00:42:

cmon poopoo head nobody is being childish



/me farts on bse


Posted by {b.s.e.} on Mar-12-2002 00:46:

why do you feel the need to egg me on?
do you have anything beneficial to add to this thread? most likely not, since you seem to be limited to words like poo poo head and fart.

i don't want this to continue in this thread. start your own thread called 'bse is a poopoo head' or some childish shit like that. stop comprimising this thread with childish banter.


Posted by torontotrance on Mar-12-2002 00:46:

Smile

I will point out the following about time.......it winds down instead of up........universe is winding down.......all from the 2nd law of thermodynamics...........read up on it..........


Posted by {b.s.e.} on Mar-12-2002 00:51:

**eddddit.**


Posted by Piet on Mar-12-2002 00:52:

i guess because events happen in succesion, they happen in succesion in something, and this we named time.

Also: people thought that the universe was expanding at a slower and slower rate. From this they theorized that eventually it would stop expanding, and then start collapsing, until all the matter collapsed together. Then perhaps it would explode again in another "big bang." However some of the most recent evidence suggests that the universe is expanding at a faster and faster rate, and so the universe may not ever collapse but just keep expanding.

Look for "Nova" a US tv program which often has topics such as this.


Posted by SmellsExcellent on Mar-12-2002 00:53:

IMO, time is existance. we created a measurement for it just as me created a measurement for distance. Here to there is this many feet, i ahve "one hour" until i have to be there.... whatever. the real mindfuck is in Event Horizon. This ship uses a gravity drive to fold time-space. Ill Explain.

-Consider a piece of paper being folded in half. Eventually you will not be able to fold any more because the paper "exists" and cannot pass though itself.

-Now, apply this principle to folding time-space. it folds, and when it gets the point where paper would stop, it keeps going because it can pass though itself.... so now you have two pieces of space that in actuality are hunderd of light years, or whatver youw ant to call a really long distance, that are actually exisating in the exact same time-space.

-the ship now moves from "florida(point b)" through a folded "untied states (space)" to "cali(point b)" in a matter of seconds and over the distance it takes to clear the hole.

now this is some amazing shit i'd say...

-Marc

PS, sorry if i cause any sleepless nights, i thought itd be a good addition to the conversaiton.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Mar-12-2002 00:53:

bse im egging u on because u call me childish because i said read up on the matter since nobody here seems to even understand what they are typing... its true all i meant by my comment read a book was that we should read up on it...nuthing more but yet u seem to have the need to bash me and believe that u knew everything there is to know abt the subject when in fact nobody does...


so once again U R A POO POO HEAD!!! NA NA NA NA NA NA


Posted by torontotrance on Mar-12-2002 00:54:

Smile

Me lame......no.....

You cannot find a way out of it......time is governed by ONE RULE and ONE RULE ONLY!......it is the 2nd Law of thermodynamics. Read up on it ppl...what i'm saying has substance unlike bse


Posted by {b.s.e.} on Mar-12-2002 00:54:

well there you go. a productive comment.

care to explain further?


Posted by SmellsExcellent on Mar-12-2002 00:57:

DONT WASTE THIS GOOD THREAD ON ARGUMENT BULLSHIT.. respeK!


Posted by {b.s.e.} on Mar-12-2002 00:59:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
A)did i ask to you even be born......you stupid worthless pos
B)Me, lame........no your lame
C)you want to speak you anger to me in a post.......do it in pm......i'm be happy to respond to your lameass comments.....you stupid useless TOOL!


alright. this is pretty funny. why are you flaming me?


lmao what are talking about? and why are you talking, more importantly. congratulations, you are more informed when it comes to thermodynamics, therefore you are a better person. i'm not 'speaking anger' to you, TTA. i was replying to your flaming comments about my 'lameass theories'. you want to come in and start a fight and then tell me to take my arguments to private messages. where do you get off? stay out of this thread, and keep your ignorant, uninformed and unfounded opinions to your onetracked self.


Posted by {b.s.e.} on Mar-12-2002 01:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy
bse im egging u on because u call me childish because i said read up on the matter since nobody here seems to even understand what they are typing... its true all i meant by my comment read a book was that we should read up on it...nuthing more but yet u seem to have the need to bash me and believe that u knew everything there is to know abt the subject when in fact nobody does...


so once again U R A POO POO HEAD!!! NA NA NA NA NA NA


i was more addressing the fact that you called my thread stupid. i also didn't call you childish, i said i didn't want to start a childish fight (including myself).

whatever dude, misunderstanding.


Posted by torontotrance on Mar-12-2002 01:01:

Smile

TTA EDIT #2.......what i had to said in this post earlier was'nt worth reading so i edited it.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Mar-12-2002 01:01:

if u havent noticed BSE everyone who replies has something totally out of context to say...just as if i were to say right now that in theory if u hovered over a black hole for 10 mins and u returned to earth 1 billion years would have passed...it has nuthing to do what the discussion is abt therefore is useless in the discussion...i will repeat again if u want to learn more READ A BOOK!


Posted by torontotrance on Mar-12-2002 01:03:

Smile

But black holes are supposed to not be governed by time......or are they......


Posted by {b.s.e.} on Mar-12-2002 01:09:

edited for content for minors.


Posted by {b.s.e.} on Mar-12-2002 01:15:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
But black holes are supposed to not be governed by time......or are they......


finally.

ok. black holes aren't actually proven to exist, since you cannot see them. it's just speculation. and you could never 'hover' above one. you would be sucked into it, stretched infinitely in all directions, and spread out through space. can you exist inside of one? no one knows, most likely not, as it is so dense inside the hole that not even light itself can escape it's pull.


Posted by torontotrance on Mar-12-2002 01:18:

Smile

come back with some more........actually no

i'm honestly apologizing to you all for ruining the thread.....won't happen again.......i lost it.......i'm actually off to do some reading on the subject of time n shit.......and i'll post my findings later......another time.......

the man who feels like shit and horrible
TTA


Posted by Vivid Boy on Mar-12-2002 01:19:

he was not backing me up..he was just saying its true what im saying...this is a very complexed discussion with no answers so to listen to ppl who have not done the math nor have takin the time to fully understand everything there is to know abt the subject is pointless...its like asking a blind man for directions...and im not mad at u and not ticked off....if im ticked off u will know .. i was just trying to help out this discussion...and trust me im fascinated with all that is/was said here but remember it is all speculation...like u said theories...




ps my goal in life is to become an astronaut no matter how silly it seems but i would love to see the earth from another view and see how small it really is


Posted by randummboy on Mar-12-2002 01:24:

okay.. well if any of us actually knew the answers, we would be billionaires.. do you think BSE actaully expects to find the answer to this?? probly not.. hes just trying to start a DISCUSSION, and let people throw thier thoughts, and thier opions on the table.. jeez


Posted by Vivid Boy on Mar-12-2002 01:25:

and yes it is physically impossible to hover above a blackhole...but its a theory...


and blackholes do exist and can be tracked and are monitored....they have found many...

the way they find them monitor them is that they refract a certain type of light and by monitoring the stars using a special type of xray they can see where blackholes are...

but blackholes tie into parallel universes and tears in the universe and a whole lot more which is extremely complicated and almost impossible to understand


Posted by randummboy on Mar-12-2002 01:29:

okay.. vivid.. and about this reading the book thing.. i'm not trying to start an argument, but knowbody knows what time actually is, and what its doing.. all thier writings are thieories and they are not true either.. this is a discussion where there is no right, and no wrong, because we have no evidence to support either..


Posted by Vivid Boy on Mar-12-2002 01:31:

okay but u could at least educate urself on whatever has been proven already and make speculations from that...most ppl here are making speculations from absolute nothing...so yes anyone can be right in that matter..ignorance is a bliss...ur always right when ur ignorant on a matter


Posted by torontotrance on Mar-12-2002 01:31:

Smile

But isn't that the same with time itself.....no one understands it because time is not physically touchable.......we know that time goes on and most of us have no clue why...........interesting imo.


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