Originally posted by Ian
there is a problem in europe, however if people give a shit, there's plenty of brilliant stores to buy fresh stuff at, or abroad, cheap restaurants serving fresh fish etc.
Well that would be a very different situation than the one painted by OurManFlint. Posted by Clinkz913 on Sep-13-2006 08:19:
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Originally posted by Ian
I Never said we weren't. I was brought up on fresh food & produce, with only a few things processed, a lot of kids now eat nothing but junk, i dont know how parents can do it, but then again they do the same themselves. Our neighbours here eat pizza or chinese or burgers each night, burning the boxes each evening in their fire outside. the daughter must have put on 50lbs in the last 3 yrs since she left school at least.
burning the boxes which fucks up our O-zone layer and lowering the air quality around them....nice.
Posted by Ian on Sep-13-2006 08:34:
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Originally posted by josh4
Also some people are in denile.
um, that's in egypt which is africa...
And I'm proud not to have eaten anything from Macdonalds in 14 years
Posted by OurManFlint on Sep-13-2006 09:11:
Ok, he said...
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Originally posted by Ian
there is a problem in europe, however if people give a shit, there's plenty of brilliant stores to buy fresh stuff at, or abroad, cheap restaurants serving fresh fish etc.
And you qouted this and said...
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Originally posted by occrider
Well that would be a very different situation than the one painted by OurManFlint.
But before all of this, I said(amongst other things)...
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Originally posted by OurManFlint Americans have the money to eat really healthy foods in abundance, yet are becoming increasingly obese.
I don't see how the situation I painted would be different, other than the fact that the two mentioned demographics are able enough to buy the healthiest food, yet choose not to. They are not forced, they choose not to.
Your claim that Europeans subjected to the same envoirments (that being the availibility of fast-food chains) will react the same way, which would explain the rise in obesity rates. You say that because of this same reaction, America shouldn't be blamed for its obesity rates, because now we can see that two developed demographics react the same way to said enviorments.
The problem with this, and my argument, is that the producer of this enviorment (the availability of fast-food joints) is America. Your argument would only work if fast food-joints were produced elsewhere, and America was the first nation to be subjected to this enviorment.
It is the first nation, and the producer of these eating options. Through the spread of global capitalism, these American companies started opening chains in other parts of the world, subjecting them to this food.
The demand is high. Why? Because it's cheap and fast. Not healthy. Therefore, the demand would be somewhat high, as it has been proven to exist. So, the American produced fast-food chains have opened up in other parts of the world, and after a while, obesity rates have risen in those parts of the world.
American obesity rates have been high in the past few decades, but so has the money raked in by the fast-food corps. So have the obesity rates of the other countries where such fast-food joints are present.
Globalism has had a certain impact on the style of working that is done throughout the world. The American work regime consist of long hours. Thus, after three or four decades of this work regime, plus the availability of quick and cheap food, the American population has increasing obesity. Nations outside of America subjected to these same enviorments are sharing these same attributes. Could it be a product of America. Logically, yes. The fact that it is grounded in America makes it America's fault.
Hehe, I need to change my sig. WC has been over for a while now
Posted by Ian on Sep-13-2006 09:14:
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Originally posted by josh4
going on 3 years for all fast food
i still have burgers delivered from a place in my town, but they make the burgers themselves from fresh mince, and you can tell from the lovely taste, u know, real meat
Reminds me of the ribwich on simpsons
"we take ... lbs of meat and process the hell out of it"
Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Sep-13-2006 09:28:
There used to be some right fatties in our office. Always on diets, always counting calories.. 'Ooo i've lost half a pound - time to celebrate with a portion of chips..'
Posted by placebo on Sep-13-2006 12:05:
the only thing i know about europe is that most people there have bad teeth and they call soccer football, what a bunch of fuckopotamusses.
Posted by Ian on Sep-13-2006 12:10:
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Originally posted by placebo
the only thing i know about europe is that most people there have bad teeth and they call soccer football, what a bunch of fuckopotamusses.
Wow, I never realised that trolls could sow seeds for arguments in the pro/anti american/europe thing. kudos
Posted by Marc Summers on Sep-13-2006 12:13:
WOW, nobody understood my Europe reference on page 1.
Shame on you all.
IT'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN!!
Posted by placebo on Sep-13-2006 12:14:
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Originally posted by Ian
Wow, I never realised that trolls could sow seeds for arguments in the pro/anti american/europe thing. kudos
it was a joke dude
edit: and i know everyone hates america.
Posted by placebo on Sep-13-2006 12:14:
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Originally posted by Temperate
WOW, nobody understood my Europe reference on page 1.
Shame on you all.
IT'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN!!
MEGAMAN X
Posted by Sand Leaper on Sep-13-2006 13:30:
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Originally posted by Temperate
WOW, nobody understood my Europe reference on page 1.
That's cos they've managed to supress the memories sufficiently. I'm sadly not as lucky.
Posted by Protege on Sep-13-2006 15:55:
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Originally posted by occrider
And so Americans are exporting wealth and importing time from the rest of the world forcing them to adopt similar lifestyles? How disgraceful.
no one is forced to eat fattening foods. just cause theres a mcdonalds on every corner doesnt mean that you have to eat there.
Posted by Mr.Mystery on Sep-13-2006 16:51:
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Originally posted by placebo
it was a joke dude
edit: and i know everyone hates america.
I always thought jokes were supposed to be funny. I guess I just don't understand your sophisticated yank humour.
Posted by Marc Summers on Sep-13-2006 16:55:
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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
I always thought jokes were supposed to be funny. I guess I just don't understand your sophisticated yank humour.
Far more sophisticated than the fish dance or whatever the hell that is.
Posted by Mr.Mystery on Sep-13-2006 17:01:
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Originally posted by Temperate
Far more sophisticated than the fish dance or whatever the hell that is.
I wish I knew what you were talking about.
Wait, no I don't.
Posted by Marc Summers on Sep-13-2006 17:03:
Posted by shaw on Sep-20-2006 10:42:
I feel no sympathy for fat people. It's the product of their own gluttony which makes them physically inferior. They're unattractive because as a species, we are supposed to move forward. That's not done by mating with those who can't find the willpower to spare indulgences or get off their asses.
Posted by arnoldj on Sep-20-2006 11:35:
Europe has a lot to learn from America
Europe as a whole needs to learn how to tolerate other cultures, well atleast in general you can say that America tolerates and embraces other people from other places. Unlike Europe, they all hate each other, The germans with the Russians etc... the list goes on.
Posted by Ian on Sep-20-2006 12:03:
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Originally posted by arnoldj
Europe has a lot to learn from America
Europe as a whole needs to learn how to tolerate other cultures, well atleast in general you can say that America tolerates and embraces other people from other places. Unlike Europe, they all hate each other, The germans with the Russians etc... the list goes on.
oh man, that's a good one
Posted by Mr.Mystery on Sep-20-2006 12:09:
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Originally posted by arnoldj
Europe has a lot to learn from America
Europe as a whole needs to learn how to tolerate other cultures, well atleast in general you can say that America tolerates and embraces other people from other places. Unlike Europe, they all hate each other, The germans with the Russians etc... the list goes on.
Your stupidity leaves me speechless.
Posted by Ian on Sep-20-2006 12:12:
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Originally posted by arnoldj
Europe has a lot to learn from America
Europe as a whole needs to learn how to tolerate other cultures, well atleast in general you can say that America tolerates and embraces other people from other places. Unlike Europe, they all hate each other, The germans with the Russians etc... the list goes on.
right, let's disect this better now my initial laughter has ended.
America is one country, europe is many. America has 2 principal languages (english & spanish) along with many others such as chinese/mandarin & others...
Europe has the following languages off hand
english, german, spanish, dutch, flemish, french, danish, swedish, polish, czech, greek, russian, portuguese etc. that means communication for one is a little bit harder. Do you think we all hate each other? I think you've got us confused with yourselves. Maybe back in the 1900s like the 2 world wars there was hate, but fortunately the majority of people now are tolerant, and multi-culturism is vibrant. America just goes in heavy handed, and forces itself upon people, for a country so hell bent on 'liberating' other nations, they are some of the most supressing oens themselves, controlling what one can watch, hear & so on. I really hop eyou were kidding, cos if many people think your way, we're fucked.
Posted by KilldaDJ on Sep-20-2006 14:52:
yeah but americans will still be fatter
Posted by zoric on Sep-20-2006 15:18:
Posted by itsamemario on Sep-20-2006 15:33:
we consider what americans call normal healthy people fatties, so what an american would call fat, thats superduper fat in europe..
