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Originally posted by Kapedan You really cant call 9 of 10 people in this world stupid. There is no fact on that anyways, its just your opinion.

I know, but so is saying that religion would make better politicians. Which seems like many Americans are starting to believe. Just because things are getting rough doesn't mean you have to give up, and start believing in a higher being. To live is to suffer and for the ones who give up and start beliving in a God means they are afraid of reality. At least the majority of them are.

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Originally posted by Kapedan But all these years of civilization, and when I hear stats that almost 90 percent of the world believes in God or a supperior bein..then it makes me think, that you might be the stupid one here.

well thats a beautiful argument. next time i need to make up my mind about something else, im definitely gonna hold a popular vote.

just because people have been historically irrational and superstitious doesnt mean we all suffer from the same affliction.

Listen, Im not for beliving in God, or not believing, I could care less, but saying that there is no god is just as stupid as saying there is one. Im not a religious person, but I dont mind people having thier own religious beliefs. From all I know is that America has done no harm with thier religious beliefs. Yes, I know im gonna get bashed by "Bush said Jesus told him to go to Iraq" crap.

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Originally posted by Kapedan From all I know is that America has done no harm with thier religious beliefs.

sorry but thats just too funny.

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Originally posted by Kapedan From all I know is that America has done no harm with thier religious beliefs.

thats bitterly funny and sadly poignant

I believe in God too! Not only am I scared of 92% of America, but myself too!

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby Do you guys agree with me that religion (especially organized!) is dangerous, whereas educated personal spirituality is valuable?

Organized religion is not inheirantly dangerous. What's dangerous is persons who understand or ascribe to only a portion of a belief system (usually the portion that best fits with there pre-existing beliefs or attitudes) and therefore feels justified in their beliefs/actions as they have been "commanded by god" while ignoring other (usually moderating) tennents of the religion.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN how about it makes you stupid?

That is about the most ignorant and arrogant statement I've read on these boards in a long time. Faith has nothing to do with intelligence. In many cases faith is a product of one's socialization, in others it is a choice.

I defy you to show me some corrolation between faith and cognative function.

I dont belive in god, but i belive that the human race needs religion. Dew to the fact that the % of people cant handle the fact that there is no real reason for us to be hear. There is no bigger pitcher.

Relgion gives people how are lost in there lives a meaning and a reason to be alive.

When america was attacked, it was terrist`s, When america attacked, it was freedom fighting.

One relgion belives the US is gready and is destroying the world, so they attack it and also belives that some people needs to be put in they place and do as they told becoue there dont know better, and in a way they right.

One rigion belives that everone has a right to do what there want to do with relising the affects on others, and in a way there are right too.

Bushs attack iraq becoue he did not belive in the way that the contry was ran.

US was attacked becoues they did not belive in the way the US was ran.

They as bad as each other.

Both sides brain was there civs into beliveing that there way is right.

You might want to ask this little bugger for help while writing your next post.

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Originally posted by Moongoose You might want to ask this little bugger for help while writing your next post.

That was not nice, you slovak pig!

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Originally posted by LiveTheDream There is no bigger pitcher.

MMMMmmmm.....pitcher....

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby Do you guys agree with me that religion (especially organized!) is dangerous, whereas educated personal spirituality is valuable?

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid That was not nice, you slovak pig!

I take offense at that comment sir! The proper way to say it is Slovene pig! This is Slovakia and this is where im from. Please insult me correctly

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Originally posted by Moongoose You might want to ask this little bugger for help while writing your next post.

Why do i need help, when i write it the way i want to??

Omg. They have actually asked 290 mio. people that question that's just amazing. Gott im Himmel! Love the advanced technology of our times. Bullshit study. And if this was true how cares. As long as religion doenst intervene with politics and we are dealing with sinsible people.

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Originally posted by LiveTheDream Why do i need help, when i write it the way i want to??

For the same reason you would pronounce those words correctly when speaking them. So that people can actualy understand what you are saying, which is sort of nececery in any discussion if you want to get your point across.

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Originally posted by Moongoose For the same reason you would pronounce those words correctly when speaking them. So that people can actualy understand what you are saying, which is sort of nececery in any discussion if you want to get your point across.

You need to use that little bugger too. You spelled necessary wrong. You slovenian pig!

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r What exactly is scary about it?

What exactly is scary about it? Well, being religious is a sort of a mental illness. For example, if people claim that they hear or see stuff that doesn't exist, or if they hold irrational beliefs, they are labeled as mentally ill, according to the DM-IV manual used by psychologists and psychiatrists in this country.

I'm not saying all 92% hear or see or imagine non-existent things, but if 92% described themselves as religous, a sizeable number of Americans hold child-like beliefs. For example, the belief that Santa Claus exists is a child-like belief. The idea that animals have thoughts and ideas ("animism") is a child-like belief.

What follows from this is that a sizeable number of Americans have the mentality of children. But since they are not children age-wise, this implies certain mental problems.

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Originally posted by HardTranceProd What exactly is scary about it? Well, being religious is a sort of a mental illness. For example, if people claim that they hear or see stuff that doesn't exist, or if they hold irrational beliefs, they are labeled as mentally ill, according to the DM-IV manual used by psychologists and psychiatrists in this country. I'm not saying all 92% hear or see or imagine non-existent things, but if 92% described themselves as religous, a sizeable number of Americans hold child-like beliefs. For example, the belief that Santa Claus exists is a child-like belief. The idea that animals have thoughts and ideas ("animism") is a child-like belief. What follows from this is that a sizeable number of Americans have the mentality of children. But since they are not children age-wise, this implies certain mental problems.

I'm so terribly ill.

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Originally posted by HardTranceProd What exactly is scary about it? Well, being religious is a sort of a mental illness. For example, if people claim that they hear or see stuff that doesn't exist, or if they hold irrational beliefs, they are labeled as mentally ill, according to the DM-IV manual used by psychologists and psychiatrists in this country. I'm not saying all 92% hear or see or imagine non-existent things, but if 92% described themselves as religous, a sizeable number of Americans hold child-like beliefs. For example, the belief that Santa Claus exists is a child-like belief. The idea that animals have thoughts and ideas ("animism") is a child-like belief. What follows from this is that a sizeable number of Americans have the mentality of children. But since they are not children age-wise, this implies certain mental problems.

Did you read the whole article? I'm by no means "religious" but I probably fit into one of those 4 categories (probably the "distant god" one, where a greater power put the gears of evolution into motion). It's the 31.4% that believe in the Authoritarian God that you should be afraid of, but I don't really see a problem with the other 3 groups.

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy Did you read the whole article? I'm by no means "religious" but I probably fit into one of those 4 categories (probably the "distant god" one, where a greater power put the gears of evolution into motion). It's the 31.4% that believe in the Authoritarian God that you should be afraid of, but I don't really see a problem with the other 3 groups.

yeah, and I'm saying that 31.4% of mentally ill people is a very disturbing percentage. Normally, in any given society, this marginal group should not exceed maybe 5-7%.

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Originally posted by HardTranceProd yeah, and I'm saying that 31.4% of mentally ill people is a very disturbing percentage. Normally, in any given society, this marginal group should not exceed maybe 5-7%.

I understood the thread title to mean that you were freaked out by all 92%.

That 31.4% doesn't come as much of a shock to me, but it's still sad.

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy I understood the thread title to mean that you were freaked out by all 92%. That 31.4% doesn't come as much of a shock to me, but it's still sad.

I AM freaked out by the 92%.

Note that the respondents didn't have to say "Yes". If they held no strong opinions on the subject either way (as the majority of normal people outside America and the Middle East - this just isn't an issue in daily life), they could have responded "Not Sure". In the charts, if you remember, the Yes+No responses did not add up to 100%. In Sweden, 23% said Yes, 23% said No, and 54% said nothing.

But the Americans said YES 92 times out of a hundred. They did not exercise the chance to ignore this contrived, politicized, abnormally blown-out-of-proportion concept that plays NO role in the daily life of most people around the world. Now that makes me very sad indeed.

(Note that I haven't even begun to talk about the intellectual capacity of most Americans - I accept that most people everywhere are "intellectually average" and will not read scientific books by Darwin and Dawkins, but at least most people can be "mentally normal" enough (as opposed to "intelligent") to not consider this issue as anything important.)

Oh yeah, one more thing for the genius who asked "What's so scary about it" -

My friend, are you scared of radical Islam?

In the same vein, why wouldn't I be scared of radical religiosity in America?

There are already laws in this country that try to regulate "morality" (even though mine might differ from theirs), so who is to say that there won't be even more, stricter, laws, as religion gains the upper hand?

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