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I never liked the hatchback Mazda 3. Yet I find myself liking this. Have they changed the design, or is it just growing on me?

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Originally posted by Stingray You just made me throw up. If I wanted that much sap I'd rape a pine tree.

Hahah nice one Cam! loved it

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Originally posted by MarkT (btw, not critiquing their engines, which consistently rank among the very best, if not being THE best...but the BMW twin-turbo setup adds a measely 70 peak hp to the base inline six? Isn't that a bit...weak? Meh...I'd like to see power curves for both cars before really commenting much...I don't know anything really about the new 335).

The reasoning behind the twin turbo setup on the 3.0 six was to get V8-like power with 6-cyl fuel economy. It is a well refined piece of perfection.

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Originally posted by King Luis 335i is so much better then the STI. Also, BMW will be coming out with a 335ix. AWD coupe to shut up Audi.

It's a good thing that BMW revamped their X-Drive system, because in previous years it was a huge pile of shit.

Cale's my favourite car man.

I could read his car posts to infinity! LOL ^5

Buick should just re-make these, and run this picture as advertisements everywhere:



Can we say torque?

the diff. between front and rear tires is hillarious...what a beast.

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 The reasoning behind the twin turbo setup on the 3.0 six was to get V8-like power with 6-cyl fuel economy. It is a well refined piece of perfection.

and I'm sure we'll see bigger aftermarket turbo apps...I can't see that engine being tapped out at 300hp. But car makers still have to keep silly things like fuel economy and refinement on their mind in that segment

It's a good thing that BMW revamped their X-Drive system, because in previous years it was a huge pile of shit. [/QUOTE]

indeed...sube owned them in that regard.

oh well...I guess there are two ways I look at it...which car would you rather HAVE and which car would you rather DRIVE. I would see owning the BMW as being the more sensible choice from a few standpoints...but for pure illogical pleaseure, I would rather drive the STi

same shit with the 350Z...it's a blast to drive...but if I was to own a Nissan...I'd choose the G35 over it in a heartbeat.

DanR...I think the Mazda 3 hatch looks like ass too...the sedan looks sooooo much better.

god, I miss driving

You guys are all nuts, the 3 sedan looks like squished shit, the hatch is just so... right.

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Originally posted by King Luis BMW owns all (except Porsche) 335i is so much better then the STI. Also, BMW will be coming out with a 335ix. AWD coupe to shut up Audi.

The BMW AWD system holds nothing next to Audi.

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 You guys are all nuts, the 3 sedan looks like squished shit, the hatch is just so... right.

You have any decent info on the Mazda6 by any chance? I`m just wondering. I think I`ll be getting one in a couple of weeks. Not the MS version unfortunately. I4.

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Originally posted by zokissima The BMW AWD system holds nothing next to Audi.

and the Sube system is better than both

I support the Mazda6 purchase...but no chance of getting the V6? I think they look great and really are as good or better than anything else in that class for the same price.

Well I drove it a couple of times, and yeah, for that class and price, I think its the most distinctive one there. I'd like to get the V6, the insurance isn't that much of a difference. I'm kind of worried about the engine though. I want manual shift, and the V6 is a Ford engine (so my research says), and I didn't hear too many good things regarding the Ford engine/manual transmission combo.

^^^ I don't think I would worry about that if you take care of your cars.

I've had three Fords, all manual and all with Ford engines ('94 Escort, '97 Contour with the 170hp V6 Duratec, and a '04 Focus ZTS)...no major problems to report. Sure, they've made some cars that age rather poorly (Taurus comes to mind), but I honestly think that many of the quality criticisms are overblown.

If you take care of most decents cars, you're usually going to be ok...if you're hard on your cars and don't maintain them well, then yeah, some cars will stand up to abuse better than others.

I had few problems overall in those 10 years of owning Fords and none that related to tranny or engine...most were minor annoyances.

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 Buick should just re-make these, and run this picture as advertisements everywhere: Can we say torque?

The Grand National GNX is definatly one of my top 5 fav cars. But I don't agree with modifying them. It's just wrong.

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