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Originally posted by Cobalt Please stop embarrassing my country.

how is it your country when u dont even have an american flag under your avatar...wow you're just another guilt ridden uppity elistist know-it-all american hating liberal...fuck off...your country? get the fuck outta here

seriously its too bad really, you've got really good musical taste

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Originally posted by Cobalt You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. "Yankee" and its local variations are common to many countries beyond the UK and Australia.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=yank

"yank
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aussie or brit term for an American

"aww he's just a yank leave him alone, its not his fault its the bloody education in the states."

" yea but he just asked me what language we speak in Australia..."

" I know mate he just asked me if London was near England but its not his fault he's a bloody yank...."

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike

you still haven't explained to me how "douche" isn't a "universal" worldwide insult with the likes "gimp" or "bellend" or "wanker" that you love to use

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Originally posted by Erotic Buddha you still haven't explained to me how "douche" isn't a "universal" worldwide insult with the likes "gimp" or "bellend" or "wanker" that you love to use

It's quite simple really. They are amusing words, used in jest, and not often meant to cause any real offense. 'Douche' is intended to deliver a critical verbal blow. But all it does is pigeonhole the person who said it a part of their national stereotype. Can you really not see this difference for yourself?

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Originally posted by Erotic Buddha you still haven't explained to me how "douche" isn't a "universal" worldwide insult with the likes "gimp" or "bellend" or "wanker" that you love to use

You do have a point here. I understand Mikey's reply, but to say he never uses British terms in the same way you used douche really doesn't hold water.

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Originally posted by Erotic Buddha how is it your country when u dont even have an american flag under your avatar...wow you're just another guilt ridden uppity elistist know-it-all american hating liberal...fuck off...your country? get the fuck outta here seriously its too bad really, you've got really good musical taste

Thank you.

I think there are more than enough American flags about. Most countries don't place such neurotic weight on constant displays of nationalism. Just because I don't put it under my profile on an internet forum doesn't mean I get my passport taken away or lose my right to vote for my representatives.

If I were the only American about, I'd reconsider.

Guilt-ridden? Probably. When you live in the most wealthy, powerful, and militarily capable country in human history, it's a difficult not be. There's so much that we could do, and we don't.

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Originally posted by Cobalt Thank you. I think there are more than enough American flags about. Most countries don't place such neurotic weight on constant displays of nationalism. Just because I don't put it under my profile on an internet forum doesn't mean I get my passport taken away or lose my right to vote for my representatives.

putting an american flag because you're an american is an excessive display of nationalism? horse-shit like this is why i stopped being a liberal

you see thats my problem with people like you, everything that goes wrong in the world we are to be blamed for just because we are the wealthiest and most powerful country in the world, we dont send enough economic aid to poor 3rd world countries, we don't do this we don't do that we are evil blah blah blah...its ridiculous...and its sad that there are so many americans that think this way

bt's album will win this. mostly because i think he (and/or carmen rizzo) is in the commitie(sp?) for best electronic dance album or bollocks

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Originally posted by Erotic Buddha putting an american flag because you're an american is an excessive display of nationalism? horse-shit like this is why i stopped being a liberal

It's more the assumption that if you don't have the flag on your car bumper that you're somehow not American. I don't really see the basis for this claim, and you'd find that people in most countries with less tendency toward nationalism would be equally puzzled. Flying the flag over government buildings is one thing. Plastering it left and right in some desperate attempt to confer legitimacy, rather than by words, is another. It's just a symbol.

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you see thats my problem with people like you, everything that goes wrong in the world we are to be blamed for just because we are the wealthiest and most powerful country in the world, we dont send enough economic aid to poor 3rd world countries, we don't do this we don't do that we are evil blah blah blah...its ridiculous...and its sad that there are so many americans that think this way

Why don't we have that responsibility? This really speaks more of a fundamental difference in idea of what responsibility is, than whether we are responsible or not. I don't think third-world poverty or war is America's fault or something fringe like that. But I am of the opinion that if someone has the means to better the lot of all, then they have responsibility to that goal. This is the rationale for progressive taxation, really.

Most Americans don't think this way about responsibility; we're a highly individualistic society. And that's why we take so little burden in considering solutions to the problems of the world.

So the subject to argue is not really whether America is responsible for action or not. That's pretty pointless when we have different ideas of what responsibility means. The thing to argue is what we are socially responsible for, if anything.

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Originally posted by Ishkur

Noted. Sorry.

I like Target. Mmm, trendy globalization in action!

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Originally posted by Ishkur Last year had Kylie Minogue, LCD Soundsystem and New Order as nominees. Do you really expect these neophyte punters to know the difference between dance and electronic dance? Especially when the mastermind behind Madonna's latest fix is Stuart fucking Price?

Uhm, yes. Like I said, there's a difference between best dance recording and best dance album. Kylie Minogue and New Order weren't nominated for best dance album. Clearly there's a distinction between best dance album and best dance recording. I'm pretty certain Madonna's cd won't be in the best dance album cateogory but rather the pop category. One or more of her singles, however, might be under best dance recording.

We're not talking about the difference between albums and singles, we're talking about the difference between electronic, dance and pop.

To the Academy, there really is none and never has been. Check the past years nominees in the field. The Britneys and Janets take home the hardware, not the BTs and Oakenfolds.

(Madonna's already won the award before, btw...for Ray of Light. That means she will sweep for Confessions)

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Originally posted by Ishkur We're not talking about the difference between albums and singles, we're talking about the difference between electronic, dance and pop.

Could've sworn that's what I'm talking about, hence my references to the differences between best dance track and best dance album. Since the Best Dance/Electronic Album category was introduced two years ago several dance acts have been nominated. PVD for Reflections and Sasha for Involver, I believe BT's Emotional Technology was also nominated. The first winner of the Best Dance/Electronic Album was Basement Jaxx with Kish Kash and last year was The Chemical Brothers for Push The Button. The thread title is "best edm album" not best dance track. So although Madonna's cd is dancey and produced by Stewart Price she's a pop artist, not a dance artist.

Madonna is probably the most important dance artist of the last half century. Her music has always been dance music. You cannot dispute this.

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Originally posted by Ishkur Madonna is probably the most important dance artist of the last half century.

Are you that daft? Jesus.

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Originally posted by dj_bas Are you that daft? Jesus.

have you been to a club lately?

have you been to a gay club?

"Madonna. Always works."

Just because Madonna gets played in a club doesn�t automatically make her a dance artist.

i would of voted movements but binary universe turned so many heads it deserves to win imo.

i would of voted movements but binary universe turned so many heads it deserves to win imo.

Well, this ranks up there in the all time top list of good threads gone bad.

Good show gentlemen

tell me ishkur, one thing. Have you listened to ray of light (the Album), because other than Ray Of Light, Sky Fits Heaven & Skin, where is the trance, tell me, i really want to know.

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Originally posted by Cobalt Why don't we have that responsibility? This really speaks more of a fundamental difference in idea of what responsibility is, than whether we are responsible or not. I don't think third-world poverty or war is America's fault or something fringe like that. But I am of the opinion that if someone has the means to better the lot of all, then they have responsibility to that goal. This is the rationale for progressive taxation, really. Most Americans don't think this way about responsibility; we're a highly individualistic society. And that's why we take so little burden in considering solutions to the problems of the world. So the subject to argue is not really whether America is responsible for action or not. That's pretty pointless when we have different ideas of what responsibility means. The thing to argue is what we are socially responsible for, if anything.

Excellent post. Much respect.

As for album.... I wish Moshic's Salamat would get a nomination, but that's probably pretty unlikely. I could see Oakenfold winning it since his name, like Basement Jaxx or Chemical Brothers, is actually known in the US. Though Ishkur is probably right... they'll probably go with Madonna -- after all, most of my friends consider Hung Up to be "techno".

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Excellent post. Much respect. As for album.... I wish Moshic's Salamat would get a nomination, but that's probably pretty unlikely. I could see Oakenfold winning it since his name, like Basement Jaxx or Chemical Brothers, is actually known in the US. Though Ishkur is probably right... they'll probably go with Madonna -- after all, most of my friends consider Hung Up to be "techno".

Plus fucking three.

Salamat fucking owns me.

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Originally posted by Rainborn Plus fucking three. Salamat fucking owns me.

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