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actually i think trance is one of the least emotional genres... that's why it's so terrible. it tries too hard to be emotional, but it just comes off as stupid...

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Originally posted by Floorfiller actually i think trance is one of the least emotional genres... that's why it's so terrible. it tries too hard to be emotional, but it just comes off as stupid...

I think you have a point however it depends on the track. Many of the trance tunes being released currently do over-do it, and even some of the older, more anthemic releases do as well...especially the super-saw stuff. But with the tracks I mentioned, I think there is some more genuine emotion captured in them. I am finding some more emotional stuff in the downtempo and progressive house and deep house genres, so I do agree with Danny Ocean. But no one should deny that trance isn't emotional, but I wouldn't say it's the least emotional however. Some people equate emotions with emotional or soulful vocals, but I think the use of minor and major chords and the various chord progressions in trance definitely are emotional. The melodies and breakdowns in trance, when they aren't completely over-done, can sound very emotional, along with the layers produced by melodies and harmonies. I mean just listen to Solar Stone's "Seven Cities", that is a prime example of emotion conveyed brilliantly (well IMO at least, people can differ).

In my opinion, the least emotional would be hardcore, whether it's gabba or speedcore, happy hardcore or drill'n bass or whatever else there is. These tracks have almost no feeling except this cold, chaotic and sometimes downright silly atmosphere in them that makes the most anthemic and cheesy trance track sound really good. I mean this is a subjective argument and i'm not disagreeing with you completely, but there is definitely some truly emotional trance tracks. I don't think there's anything wrong with listing them either, really it's hard to talk about something without some examples as to what is emotional. I'de say i'm finding lately more emotional stuff in the progressive house and breaks area though, considering trance isn't as good anymore except the older releases IMO.

Trance especially main room trance makes people feel happy and smile and have a good time. What is so wrong with that? Too many elitests on here and elsewhere concerning other forms of dance muic think this is a some sort of crime the way they go on. Dance music is supposid to be FUN and not taken all that seriously. "Good" trance enokes genuine emotion in people and thats a good thing in my book

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Originally posted by gizzymcg Trance especially main room trance makes people feel happy and smile and have a good time. What is so wrong with that? Too many elitests on here and elsewhere concerning other forms of dance muic think this is a some sort of crime the way they go on. Dance music is supposid to be FUN and not taken all that seriously. "Good" trance enokes genuine emotion in people and thats a good thing in my book

Exactly, people want to have a good time when they go out. Not everyone wants to hear some really dark banging stuff all of the time. It's nice to have some good melodies and nice beats or some really funky or epic stuff as well. People like music that speaks to them, that relates to them, that evokes emotions. Just like when people are down they listen to sad music, when people are out dancing at a club, they want music that is fun and relates to the environment they are in. Not everyone wants to go to some deep, dark rave or underground club....they just want to have fun.

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Originally posted by Spirit5 Exactly, people want to have a good time when they go out. Not everyone wants to hear some really dark banging stuff all of the time. It's nice to have some good melodies and nice beats or some really funky or epic stuff as well. People like music that speaks to them, that relates to them, that evokes emotions. Just like when people are down they listen to sad music, when people are out dancing at a club, they want music that is fun and relates to the environment they are in. Not everyone wants to go to some deep, dark rave or underground club....they just want to have fun.

I just like it in moderation, not track after track after track after fucking track after fucking track after fucking track after FUCKING TRACK after FUCKING TRACK after TUCKING FRACK after UCKFING CKRAT after...

Well, you get the point.

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Originally posted by Sykonee I just like it in moderation, not track after track after track after fucking track after fucking track after fucking track after FUCKING TRACK after FUCKING TRACK after TUCKING FRACK after UCKFING CKRAT after... Well, you get the point.

Yeah exactly it's good to have a variety of emotions but a set full of just this thumping or BOOM BOOM sound with no sense of humaness (ie emotionality) is to me...personally...boring as hell and wouldn't keep me interested.

It's nice to have some melodic tracks mixed in with some darker or more rhythmic stuff, like what Sasha did in the late 90s and even Oakenfold, and Tiesto. If you look back at some of the sets from the late 90s and early 00s, these guys were playing a mixture of uplifting and emotional music mixed in with some darker music. They still do, but now it's a mix bag, but you can definitely see an evolution towards a more anthemic sound for them around 2001.

For a little while, John Digweed was doing really dark stuff, and that got boring. I think some sets where Armin played anthem after anthem got boring as well, when it was all uplifting, but I think these past two years he has diversified some, because if you look back at some of the stuff he played in the early 00s, it had a little more variety. Seems like when he got bigger around 2003, 2004 and 2005, he started in the direction of playing a lot more big room tracks, without much variety in there....you know the typical Armada, ASOT sound. I don't think it's bad, but just gets boring.

Variety is the key here, and it can become overdone. But it could work if you were making a mix not for the dancefloor. Alucard has a cool mix on his website called "Mushroom Therapy 2" and I think it's a perfect example of an emotional mix with some variety and sounds more like a mix just to chill to than dance to in a club...ie. not a peak time club set....more like a warm up mix.

yes it is , no drugs and alcohol needed when I listen to trance. The most emotional tracks for me ever are Alititude-Sunray(Airwave Remix) and Floyd - Come 2gether among many others

I love emo stuff... emo music, emo movies, emo chicks..

listening to trance/techno lifts my spirits, makes me feel better when im sad and gets me pumped up and excited!!!!

hooray for trance

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Originally posted by Spirit5 One of the reasons i've been so into trance over the years is that it is more emotional than some other forms of EDM.

No it's not.

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Originally posted by Ishkur No it's not.

Your right...I concede. It's not emotional at all, it's rather cold and emotionless. These melodic, and uplifting tracks make me feel like shit, they have no emotion in them...oh wait they aren't trance I forgot! They are pre-packaged chickenshit...

Bossanova - Stone Cold
Imogen Heap - Hide & Seek (EnMass Remix)
Deepsky - Ghost
Thrillseekers - Dreaming Of You (Original Mix)
Solarstone vs. Scott Bond - 3rd Earth

The few trancers that really produces an emotion every single time.

Spirit5,

Please just shut up.

Seriously.

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Originally posted by Ishkur Spirit5, Please just shut up. Seriously.

I will, thanks for not calling me a mother fu**in piece of crap who listens to chickenshit "trance". Plain and simple... "Shut up" thanks. It's way better than childish name calling...

Trance music makes me feel like peeing on the back of a bitch who apparently lied to me in almost every conversation we had.

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Originally posted by risoriso Trance music makes me feel like peeing on the back of a bitch who apparently lied to me in almost every conversation we had.

trance makes me warm and fuzzy when I like it

but im horribly inconsistent

Couldwalking yaaaay

Out of the Blue booooooooooo

forbidden fruit yaaaaaay

gamemaster booooooo

the list goes on

Re: Is trance music emotion-enforcing?

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Originally posted by DJ Sid Lately i've been under the impression that trance music has an influence on your emotions. When i'm feeling a bit down, and i listen to trance, it makes the feeling stronger (depends on what tracks you're listening too of course) When i'm feeling happy (right now actually , i get a euphoric feeling, making the happiness even bigger. Does anyone agree/has experience with this kinda thing?

Dood thats why its called trance. and there is no edm genre that comes close to it, that brings out this sad or euphoric emotions.songs like solarstone-destination,rank1-airwave,vascotia-calibro just to name a few.

Not an original topic, but it causes me to think about a few things I find interesting.

It's obvious that trance is the genre of EDM that deals with emotions much more than any other. The leads and melodies are focused on more so than the bass or the percussion (although recently with the progressive trance movement I've found more emotion and focus being on the bassline). With house the focus is on a groovey, uplifting at times but rather shallow effects when it comes to emotion. Techno, I would say is more focused on adrenaline or the thrill. The percussion is often the focus. So you have trance left over as the "emo" portion of EDM.

What I find most interesting about EDM and especially trance is that it is more solitary. It's effects for me are personal, internal and reflective. As opposed to most other forms of music where you are in a way observing the performer's emotional expression, in EDM you are experiencing the effects yourself. You are reacting to the asthetics of the sound in a way that is personal and solitary.

That is why I think it does so well on the dance floor because it's more concerned with effecting the listener rather than expressing what the artist feels.

This is why many people are fooled into thinking that trance and other forms of "techno", as they say, are not emotional. What they are confused about is that trance causes emotion where most other forms of music expresses it.

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Originally posted by djmetatron Not an original topic, but it causes me to think about a few things I find interesting. It's obvious that trance is the genre of EDM that deals with emotions much more than any other. The leads and melodies are focused on more so than the bass or the percussion (although recently with the progressive trance movement I've found more emotion and focus being on the bassline). With house the focus is on a groovey, uplifting at times but rather shallow effects when it comes to emotion. Techno, I would say is more focused on adrenaline or the thrill. The percussion is often the focus. So you have trance left over as the "emo" portion of EDM. What I find most interesting about EDM and especially trance is that it is more solitary. It's effects for me are personal, internal and reflective. As opposed to most other forms of music where you are in a way observing the performer's emotional expression, in EDM you are experiencing the effects yourself. You are reacting to the asthetics of the sound in a way that is personal and solitary. That is why I think it does so well on the dance floor because it's more concerned with effecting the listener rather than expressing what the artist feels. This is why many people are fooled into thinking that trance and other forms of "techno", as they say, are not emotional. What they are confused about is that trance causes emotion where most other forms of music expresses it.

Exactly, couldn't have said it better myself. I had mentioned something about this or was trying to in my long posts of mine but you hit the nail on the head...esp wtih that last paragraph. You actually said it way better than I did but I was leading towards coming to this conclusion.

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Originally posted by djmetatron It's obvious that trance is the genre of EDM that deals with emotions much more than any other. The leads and melodies are focused on more so than the bass or the percussion (although recently with the progressive trance movement I've found more emotion and focus being on the bassline). With house the focus is on a groovey, uplifting at times but rather shallow effects when it comes to emotion. Techno, I would say is more focused on adrenaline or the thrill. The percussion is often the focus. So you have trance left over as the "emo" portion of EDM.

You have listened to a pitifully minute amount of electronic music in your lifetime.

I never understood why people who are so washed with trance think it's the emotional genre of electronic music. House is nowhere near shallow, emotion is subjective. Hell, I'm sure techno can have people feeling some sort of emotional discharge. But isn't the sole purpose of trance music to be bereft of emotion? I mean true trance music is supposed to be trance-inducing, which in effect is lacking emotion.

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Originally posted by djmetatron What they are confused about is that trance causes emotion where most other forms of music expresses it.

I dont agree with that and a majority of your post. I think any music can cause emotion, or express it, or both at the same time. I dont think any of this discussion should have anything to do with specific genres. Trance is not more emotionally expressive than any other type of music, in fact (as evident by earlier posts) it is arguably LESS emotional because of the shallow manner in which it expresses (or causes) emotion.

I'm sure any techno heads could name x amount of tracks they listen to that are deeply emotional and thought provoking. As I could with house/prog. Genres do not define the content of music, they only define a context by which you can roughly categorize songs with.

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Originally posted by Ishkur Spirit5, Please just shut up. Seriously.

+9.

man it's frustrating reading this thread...

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