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Posted by xXxAzNrAvErxXx on Mar-12-2001 03:37:

Be Cool!

I am almost certain the K is Cat tranquilizer..will thats what I heard from most people..
And Infinity..where did you find the info about K causing prefrontal brain damage??


Posted by mucka on Mar-12-2001 07:06:

clear up a few things!

ok chill out innit...

Ketamine is chemically 2-(2-Chlorophenyl)-2-(methylamino)-
cyclohexanone.
Ketamine is used as a human and animal anesthetic.Vets use it for cats or any small animal and reptiles.

Using K on a regular basis is highly adictive and can have long term effects, such as paranoia, ego centricism, vertigo, dizziness, flashes and streaks in your vision etc.

Personally i've never taken and after researchin the drug i'm never going to fuckin take... i don't believe there is anything good about taking this substance.Think i'll stick with me mdma(xtc)

laterz all

P.S elephant tranq lolol would have to in inject it with a rocket launcher to even give it a lil buzz hehe!


Posted by occrider on Mar-12-2001 08:20:

Re: clear up a few things!

quote:
Originally posted by mucka
ok chill out innit...
P.S elephant tranq lolol would have to in inject it with a rocket launcher to even give it a lil buzz hehe!


Yup, just goes to show how much I use the shit. Hehe if you ask me I think it's better that it be called an elephant tranq ... that way novice dumbshits would show some respect for it and not OD off it.


Posted by RuffRyda on Mar-12-2001 08:28:

Read This! FYI

here's a q & a page i found on K...

____________________________________________________________
Ketamine overdose?
>I have a big question and this is very serious. I pretty much know
>what mixes well and what doesn't. But, about a week ago in Chicago ... me
>and a friend of mine sat and did about 80 dollars of Special K. And by the
>end of the night at the Rave.. All I could do was lay on the floor and
>shake. Everything smelled wierd, and I felt like I was floating. It was
>almost like I was tripping. Anyways,ever since that night I have
>flashbacks and I feel high all the time. I can't eat or sleep. My mind is
>completely ate up. Did I overdose? I know that I went into a K-hole, But how
>bad did this effect me?

Ketamine is an anaesthetic which is still used in hospitals in much higher doses (obviously so high that it knocks you out cold!), and has the reputation of being very safe. So, as far as neurotoxicity (brain damage) is concerned it is probably the safest recreational drug around, and if it was Ketamine then you should not worry about it causing you physical damage.

However, it can sometimes produce experiences which are more difficult to handle than LSD, withj less defined boundaries between the experience and real life. So, like all intense experiences, it can produce psychological damage in susceptible people.

Another problem with Ketamine that deos not apply to LSD or mushrooms is that it is addictive. Even responsible people who use it regularly quite often become addicted, although this is not a danger to worry about for people who take it a few times by mistake.

Finally, Ketamine appears to be the favourite scape goat for people who have bad experiences. Remember that bad experiences can happen with even pure MDMA in some situations, so don't always blame the chemical.

taken from http://ecstasy.org/qanda/q10.html
____________________________________________________________

that should put an end to some of the bickering...


Posted by breakdown on Mar-12-2001 11:27:

quote:
Originally posted by xXxAzNrAvErxXx
I am almost certain the K is Cat tranquilizer..will thats what I heard from most people..
And Infinity..where did you find the info about K causing prefrontal brain damage??



lol not necessarily prefrontal cortex damage, but it has effects on it, be it adverse or whatever depending on dosage... i know because ummm i know?? =p


Posted by Miss Proximus on Mar-12-2001 11:42:

K = GHB ???

quote:
Originally posted by Jukx
Elephant tranquilizer? Jesus Christ!

never used that one... that's for sure! Didn't even know it exists! Mmmm... this site IS instructive!

Later!


Isn't GHB the same as Ketamine?? Or are those resp. Dutch and English names for the same drug?


Posted by |GOD_is_a_DJ| on Mar-12-2001 11:53:

Here's an advice from an ex-snorter. Don't snort up K too much in 1 nite. 3 lines is nice. K tripping is awesome when u take the right dose. Too much brings u to K-hole. I think that bad dreams comes from smoking weed?LOL. Coz I think weed makes u see devilish things, ain't it?LOL. K actually brings u to La La Land. Sit down, get yourself comfy and start your imagination running, if possible get a girl for cuddling hugging massaging. Since K is an anasthetic, that's y it's good to snort a bit after E, to let u chill out. K is addictive, it's true, coz when u just sat and chill with trance and K flashbacks will come LOL. Dreams come to me too, but it was just dreams of me snorting up Ks, not a bad dream. Some Es also make u couldn't sleep and eat too. The good part of K-hole is it stops u from OD LOL. After u fell to K-hole, u won't snort up again till the next time u rave hehe and after u throw up LOL.


Posted by breakdown on Mar-12-2001 12:01:

Re: K = GHB ???

quote:
Originally posted by Miss Proximus


Isn't GHB the same as Ketamine?? Or are those resp. Dutch and English names for the same drug?



nah.. different things..
GHB aka gamma hydroxybutyrate is more similar to alchohol and is a depressant.. ummm i wouldn't ever take GHB.. it has a low threshold for comatose...

K is more of an anaethetic or a disocciative..
pretty different ends of the spectrum =p.. gives psychadelic flashes, whereas GHB's effect isn't as obvious??? does that make sense?? ya it does =p


Posted by Miss Proximus on Mar-12-2001 12:11:

oK thnx for the knowledge mr. GOD lol

I think it's so cool to be a TrancEaddict God!

Anywayz, I'm out of words...have to get some new material!


Posted by xXxAzNrAvErxXx on Mar-12-2001 13:55:

Thumbs up

quote:
Originally posted by |GOD_is_a_DJ|
Since K is an anasthetic, that's y it's good to snort a bit after E, to let u chill out. K is addictive, it's true, coz when u just sat and chill with trance and K flashbacks will come LOL.


Definately agree.. snorting after E is nice ...

Didn't know K was so addictive..mmm...maybe thats why one of my friends snort K first thing she wakes up...lol


Posted by Jukx on Mar-12-2001 14:06:

Re: K = GHB ???

quote:
Originally posted by Miss Proximus


Isn't GHB the same as Ketamine?? Or are those resp. Dutch and English names for the same drug?


GHB has, roughly said, the same effect as E besides of the energy you get from it.... it's also known as some sort of sex-drug.


Posted by |GOD_is_a_DJ| on Mar-12-2001 14:17:

Yup, hehe. I know how your friend feels, xXxAzNrAvErxXx. K is kinda lite, that's y u can snort a bit and walk around town in the day time tripping with K hehe, u'll feel like Alice in Wonderland. If u want bigger dose, go to Cokes, instead of snorting up more K and falling into the hole hehe. Just watch out for nose bleeds hehe.


Posted by occrider on Mar-12-2001 15:48:

Re: Re: K = GHB ???

quote:
Originally posted by Jukx


GHB has, roughly said, the same effect as E besides of the energy you get from it.... it's also known as some sort of sex-drug.


Not sex drug ... date rape drug. It was big in the news a while back when a guy dosed a girl at a club and she died.


Posted by Jukx on Mar-12-2001 16:13:

Re: Re: Re: K = GHB ???

quote:
Originally posted by occrider


Not sex drug ... date rape drug. It was big in the news a while back when a guy dosed a girl at a club and she died.


Yeah, I read something about that.... but unless you use it in combination with alcohol it's not as harmfull as they want you to believe it is...


Posted by kansascity89 on Mar-13-2001 09:35:

Smoking ..umm..something

For all your necessary psychoactive information check out this inspiring and informative website:

http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/psychoactives.shtml

I found it very helpful in dispelling the common myths and misconceptions surrounding certain chemicals that I may have allowed to enter my body.


Posted by skywarp on Mar-14-2001 06:35:

And people say raves and substance abuse don't have anything to do with each other ...

I'll go shut my hypocritical mouth now =)

hehehe

oh ... btw. A&E rawks =)


Posted by mucka on Mar-14-2001 06:40:

quote:
Originally posted by kansascity89
For all your necessary psychoactive information check out this inspiring and informative website:

http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/psychoactives.shtml

I found it very helpful in dispelling the common myths and misconceptions surrounding certain chemicals that I may have allowed to enter my body.



yeh i've studied that site in the past it makes drugs sound all the more better hehe... cleared up a few questions i had about xtc now i can carryon takin with no worries

laterz


Posted by kansascity89 on Mar-14-2001 07:13:

Smoking ..umm..something

quote:

Originally posted by Mucka
yeh i've studied that site in the past it makes drugs sound all the more better hehe... cleared up a few questions i had about xtc now i can carryon takin with no worries


Yeah, the site pretty much romantices drug use. When I firsted started 'experimenting' with drugs I checked some official goverment type sites, but they were too scary. This site makes you believe that these chemical thingys are all good. Which is probably bad...but its okay, cause drugs are fun.


Posted by RuffRyda on Mar-15-2001 08:03:

quote:
Originally posted by kansascity89


Yeah, the site pretty much romantices drug use. When I firsted started 'experimenting' with drugs I checked some official goverment type sites, but they were too scary. This site makes you believe that these chemical thingys are all good. Which is probably bad...but its okay, cause drugs are fun.


lol!! kc89, you're a funny guy. by all means drugs are fun and i wish that these "illicit" drugs were good for ya, cuz i'd be popping that shit like mad!!


Posted by Opti on Sep-28-2001 15:35:

digged up some old thead

XTC, you got what I need


Posted by bluE_Neon on Sep-28-2001 19:03:

Crystal or watever its fucken called is good...never did E and prolly wont, coz E's in canada r BULLSHIT, only White Zorro's i heard r amazing expect hard 2 get and expensive...so i did crystal at da end of a rave and it was good, but i voted 4 booze shroomz r good as well


Posted by x-dream on Oct-01-2001 20:28:

Booze all the way for me....


Posted by JM on Oct-16-2001 07:18:

Satan (eek!)

booze just relaxes me.....and as for drugs, never tried them....wait, i think i've already mentioned that here...nevermind...yeah, booze, but not much of that anymore anyways....

>JM<


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