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The elections have been predetermined. Vote for someone else for a change, republicans and democrats are both alike, they promise and do exactly the same shit, with the same results ... choose the little guys, they the ones that will likely do your country any good. Remember how Kerry and Bush were both Skull & Bones members who monopolized the previous US Presidential elections?

Those parties are run by the same corporate interests, nothing rarely changes.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium ...Remember how Kerry and Bush were both Skull & Bones members who monopolized the previous US Presidential elections?

man, you almost had me until that^ crap.

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Originally posted by Q5echo man, you almost had me until that^ crap.

yeah, he's one doctor's appointment away from an asylum.

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Poll shows Muslims in U.S. lean to Democrats American Muslims were most concerned about civil liberties, education Reuters Updated: 12:49 p.m. PT Oct 24, 2006 WASHINGTON - More American Muslims are now supporting the Democratic Party but their votes should not be taken for granted, an Islamic civil rights group said Tuesday. The Council on American-Islamic Relations, or CAIR, released a poll of 1,000 registered Muslim voters in the United States it said showed the community has changed a great deal since supporting Republicans in 2000. The poll found 42 percent of respondents were Democrats and 17 percent Republican, while some 28 percent had no party affiliation, said CAIR Executive Director Nihad Awad. "It shows that Muslim community votes should not be taken for granted," said Awad, adding: "There's a shift in their political orientation." The poll had a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points. Estimates of the number of Muslim Americans vary between 3 million and 7 million. Eighty-nine percent of those surveyed said they vote regularly. In 2000, American Muslims endorsed and voted for Republican candidate Bush, but they switched to support the Democrats in 2004 to protest what was seen as anti-Muslim policies by the Bush administration. Key issues CAIR research director Mohamed Nimer said the survey showed American Muslims were most concerned about civil liberties -- an issue that has dominated the community since the Sept. 11 attacks carried out by Muslim extremists -- and education. Foreign policy issues followed closely behind, it showed. "There is a tremendous opposition to the Bush administration policies," Nimer said, citing the 55 percent of respondents who felt the war on terror has become a war on Islam. Eighty-eight percent believed the Iraq war was not worthwhile for the United States and 90 percent were against using military means to spread democracy around the world. Politics of 9/11 The survey also showed about 43 percent of those questioned felt they had been discriminated against or been the subject of racial profiling. Since the Sept. 11 attacks, news of domestic wiretapping, monitoring of mosques, immigration crackdowns, public support for racial profiling and bans on some Muslim scholars visiting the United States made many Muslim Americans feel like targets of racism. CAIR officials said Muslim political groups had not yet decided to endorse a party for the upcoming Nov. 7 elections. But they have launched an aggressive effort in Muslim communities across the country to register voters, and then plan on getting people to actually vote. URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15403186/

Maybe an overlooked segment?



Things are heating up!

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Originally posted by josh4 Things are heating up!

here's the response to the MJFox ad that will air today.

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Originally posted by Q5echo man, you almost had me until that^ crap.

As much as you'd like to deny it, Both Kerry and Bush ADMITTED in public to be part of this society. Both of 'em. And you should know that they're also related. Members pledge allegiance to secret societies and their fellow members BEFORE pledging to follow the laws of their country.

To back my sratements up, see Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_bones

see under "Bonermen"

Many influential figures have been in Bones, and influential families have often had multiple members over successive generations. Bonesmen range from U.S. Presidents such as George W. Bush, George H. W. Bush, and William Howard Taft along with Supreme Court Justices, business leaders and U.S. Senators such as John F. Kerry who ran for President in 2004.


VIDEO EVIDENCE:





SO WHO IS AN IDIOT NOW??? Time to get your OWN head checked if you disagree on this one ;-)

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Originally posted by Magnetonium SO WHO IS AN IDIOT NOW??? Time to get your OWN head checked if you disagree on this one ;-) [/b]

OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!

i never denied anything dude. i just dismissed your premise of being in the "Skull&Bones Society" of having NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

what you have let this benign urban legend do is control what you think. it's piqued your imagination in absence of any logical deduction of how, why, and who this club exists for and left your theories wanting for any substantive conclusion.

you live in fear, not some enlightened sense of self where you can honestly say the rest of us are ignorant pawns. if anyone has been pawned by lack of knowledge, it may be you.

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Originally posted by Q5echo OMFG!!!!!!!!!!! i never denied anything dude. i just dismissed your premise of being in the "Skull&Bones Society" of having NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what you have let this benign urban legend do is control what you think. it's piqued your imagination in absence of any logical deduction of how, why, and who this club exists for and left your theories wanting for any substantive conclusion. you live in fear, not some enlightened sense of self where you can honestly say the rest of us are ignorant pawns. if anyone has been pawned by lack of knowledge, it may be you.

Wow ... you are so bloody ignorant, even with HARD evidence in your face you think its a joke. Well, go on, live on in your ignorance, I have nothing more to say.

Skull and Bones has SOMETHING to do with this. Our political system is monopolized, you are voting for the same party. If you vote Republican or Democratic its the same dam thing.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Skull and Bones has SOMETHING to do with this.

ok. what then? what do they have to do with anything? i'm open for your insight. seriously.

Was that a joke? Bonerman = "HARD" evidence??

hahaha!!!

You are paranoid.

Magnetonium, Im still waiting your response in the thread I started about how the U.S. political system "really" works.

I hope FOley didn't screw it up for the rest of us...

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Originally posted by kush paintings Magnetonium, Im still waiting your response in the thread I started about how the U.S. political system "really" works.

Its fucked up, this is a long long subject, so I wont bother, and to tell you the truth, its not my field of expertise.

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Originally posted by Q5echo ok. what then? what do they have to do with anything? i'm open for your insight. seriously.

Ugh, you guys are killing me. My point is - it doesnt matter who you are voting for: republicans or democrats - its the same dam thing that represents same corporations, same interests same politics. Its like choosing a green BMW over a red BMW - no difference, other than appearance. Except the new republicans have a massive injection from the neo-cons ;-) I refer to them as the "republican steroids" ;-)

Dont get me wrong, if you're voting local politicans, like city mayor, MP or some other small duck, then the chances are they'll do you good because they work for your local interests. But for the "global" political system, presidential elections are pre-determined. Policial games, deceit and behind-the-scenes compromises and treaties have long ago decided who runs the country and who gets what. Thats my overview on it, no point in arguing this because I am not pulling out any more "hard evidence" because as I noticed earlier its completely pointless and a waste of time for a college student who is trying to catch up on advanced physics.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Its fucked up, this is a long long subject, so I wont bother, and to tell you the truth, its not my field of expertise. Ugh, you guys are killing me. My point is Dont get me wrong, what. Thats my overview on it, no point in arguing this because I am not pulling out any more "hard evidence" because as I noticed earlier its completely pointless and a waste of time for a college student who is trying to catch up on advanced physics.

okay i've heard you correctly. so, what you're saying is that we shouldn't ever vote for people who have gone to Yale and were part of this secret campus order called the "Skull&Bones Society". is that it?

i mean i know it's not advanced physics but do i understand you correctly? seriously.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Except the new republicans have a massive injection from the neo-cons ;-) I refer to them as the "republican steroids" ;-) .

hey, easy there red. no need to bring up Neoconservatism. we can have this dicussion without trashing my kind

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Originally posted by Q5echo here's the response to the MJFox ad that will air today.

Little time to get into this debate with much detail, but I will say that Limbaugh's attacks at Fox were not even worth replying to. Typical extremist Coulter-like slime tactics that deserve no more mention.

The ad itself, however, is kinda funny considering that Kurt Warner and Mike Sweeney are in there. Can't speak for too many St. Louis fans, but folks here in KC can't stand Sweeney. He wore out his welcome long ago, despite his great hitting abilities. The ****** is ALWAYS injured, and never plays more than 1/2 the freaking season. Shoulda traded him long ago. There were also rumors a season or two ago that teammates were getting tired of his Bible-thumping bullshit in the lockerroom (that is admittedly heresay, but the AM sports radio guys ate it up for a while). Then again, not much else to expect from our Walmart owner in the first place. God I miss the 80's and the Royals.....

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 The ad itself, however, is kinda funny considering that Kurt Warner and Mike Sweeney are in there. Can't speak for too many St. Louis fans, but folks here in KC can't stand Sweeney. He wore out his welcome long ago, despite his great hitting abilities. The ****** is ALWAYS injured, and never plays more than 1/2 the freaking season. Shoulda traded him long ago. There were also rumors a season or two ago that teammates were getting tired of his Bible-thumping bullshit in the lockerroom (that is admittedly heresay, but the AM sports radio guys ate it up for a while). Then again, not much else to expect from our Walmart owner in the first place. God I miss the 80's and the Royals.....

yeah wtf... like I needed to HATE Kurt Warner even more!!!

What a joke...

this is one reason why liberals will not achieve a damn thing this year.


>A New Campaign Tactic: Manipulating Google Data<

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Fifty or so other Republican candidates have also been made targets in a sophisticated �Google bombing� campaign intended to game the search engine�s ranking algorithms. By flooding the Web with references to the candidates and repeatedly cross-linking to specific articles and sites on the Web, it is possible to take advantage of Google�s formula and force those articles to the top of the list of search results.

holy crap, Webb is TOAST!

>this is some repugnant shit right here<

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�A shirtless man walked toward them along a mud pathway. His muscles were young and hard, but his face was devastated with wrinkles. His eyes were so red that they appeared to be burned by fire. A naked boy ran happily toward him from a little plot of dirt. The man grabbed his young son in his arms, turned him upside down, and put the boy�s penis in his mouth.�

what i wouldn't give to see the look on Chris Mathews's face when he found out about this

he prolly looked like someone shot his dog...serves him right, the old bastard. he'll prolly claim that the issue is "too complicated now" to cover it like he covered the whole Macaca incident a la "PlameGate"

^ LOL what is going on in congress!

here are some more kewl colored graphs:
http://www.pollster.com/senate.php

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Originally posted by Q5echo holy crap, Webb is TOAST! >this is some repugnant shit right here< what i wouldn't give to see the look on Chris Mathews's face when he found out about this he prolly looked like someone shot his dog...serves him right, the old bastard. he'll prolly claim that the issue is "too complicated now" to cover it like he covered the whole Macaca incident a la "PlameGate"

Hmm, perhaps, or we could hope that Matthews actually puts such quotes in context on fictional stories, especially those stories based on the insanities of war like that of Vietnam. Perhaps that's something that McCain could attest to, and perhaps that's why he even ENDORSED Webb's book:

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From Publishers Weekly Webb's cultural and political portrayal of Vietnam 25 years after the war's end is delivered with such bold strokes and magical detail that it really doesn't matter that the plot itself is relegated to the backseat. This is a highly personal and empathetic look at today's Vietnam, a land of misery and inequity, yet one still vibrantly alive. The story follows the experiences of Brandon Condley, an ex-Marine whose job it is to find missing American soldiers, dead or alive. Condley is trying to track down Theodore Deville, an army grunt who not only deserted his unit in 1969 and killed a fellow serviceman, but then joined the ranks of the enemy. Condley is convinced Deville is still alive, operating somewhere in southeast Asia's underground economy. Webb introduces a rich cast of supporting characters as Condley pursues his quarry across Vietnam, Australia, the former Soviet Union and Thailand. Among the most delicately etched is Dzung, a former South Vietnamese officer now relegated, like thousands of others on the losing side, to a menial station in life, one that he and his family have no hope of escaping. Such characters, as well as the highly textured mood and atmosphere that Webb creates, tend to further eclipse the main narrative and shift the focus to the moral consequences and social fallout of the war. This detailed, lovingly drawn portrait of Vietnam reveals a sad, tortured country that has never recovered from the horrifying events of a quarter-century ago. Major print and radio advertising. (Sept. 4)Forecast: Webb (Fields of Fire) is no stranger to the bestseller lists; endorsements from heavy hitters like Sen. John McCain will help put him there once again. http://www.amazon.com/Lost-Soldiers...ie=UTF8&s=books

Of course we should expect Allen to know everything about Vietnam because he was there with McCain and Webb serving, wasn't he?

Oh wait, dang. Not another GOP skirting the Vietnam war? Shoot, sorry.

You GOPers are funny. What fucking issues do you have left? You are down to nothing but sliming the fuck out of your opposition at all stops. You got your Senate leader telling you to ignore the biggest issue of this campaign:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006...D8KVN0K00.shtml

So I guess we all can understand why you're going ad hominem style rather than attacking the issues. Of course you won't listen to some of your own more experienced Conservative commentators:

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Richard A. Viguerie, Chairman of ConservativeHQ.com, warned Republicans that scare tactics against Democrats will not succeed in increasing social or economic conservative voters on Election Day. �The big-spending, high-deficit, morally-deficient Republican Party hasn�t anything to offer conservatives except Halloween scare tactics about the Democrats. But since the GOP majority in Congress has engaged in an unprecedented spending spree, conservatives know that Democrats cannot be any worse and that divided government may lead to less spending,� Viguerie said. �And conservatives have learned that, while Republicans sometimes provide significant symbolism on social issues, in truth, many of them have a disdain for values voters,� he added. �Trying to frighten conservatives by yelling �Nancy Pelosi� and �Harry Reid� won�t work this time." http://www.conservativesbetrayed.co...ease-102406.php

So why does it truly matter anyway?

I have to hear the local radio of our state AG Phil Kline going after his opposition, a former GOP man who turned Democrat because he had enough of the insanity of the extremist Right running our state into the fucking ground. And then of course there's the slime of Bond going after his opponent in Missouri - Talent that little slimy fucking weasel won't even discuss Iraq, the fucking war he's supported Bush on at all stops (not that Talent supported the troops very well anyway: http://capwiz.com/iava/bio/?id=352). When the subject is brought up, Talent goes after McKaskill's finances instead and refuses to even talk about THE issue of the election (of course his hands aren't terribly clean in their own right on this regard: http://www.firedupmissouri.com/talent_paseo_securities). Typical.

But hey, let's not stop there with all the fun. Here's another local Bushite, and sadly to say a fellow KU Alumni, caught up in his own bullshit with Foley connections:

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansa...al/15829375.htm

Then again, you guys seem to have more than just one issue with pages lately:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter...ahl_names_.html

But hey, corruption is abounds with you guys, such as one of your boys out in Nevada:

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/s.../566610130.html

Sliming Hillary:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...9p-390714c.html

Intimidating latino voters:

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/merc...ia/15791512.htm

S. Florida's doing quite swimmingly too:

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/15856692.htm

And the Tennessee ad against Ford was quite cute of you guys:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15418962/

Going after his fucking family, no less:

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/a...23tennessee.htm

Yes sir, no slimeball tactics from the GOP these days. All positive. All current, present-day issues. Keep at it, Q. You give me the hearty chuckles!

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Hmm, perhaps, or we could hope that Matthews actually puts such quotes in context on fictional stories, especially those stories based on the insanities of war like that of Vietnam. Perhaps that's something that McCain could attest to, and perhaps that's why he even ENDORSED Webb's book: Of course we should expect Allen to know everything about Vietnam because he was there with McCain and Webb serving, wasn't he? Oh wait, dang. Not another GOP skirting the Vietnam war? Shoot, sorry. You GOPers are funny. What fucking issues do you have left? You are down to nothing but sliming the fuck out of your opposition at all stops. You got your Senate leader telling you to ignore the biggest issue of this campaign: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006...D8KVN0K00.shtml So I guess we all can understand why you're going ad hominem style rather than attacking the issues. Of course you won't listen to some of your own more experienced Conservative commentators: So why does it truly matter anyway? I have to hear the local radio of our state AG Phil Kline going after his opposition, a former GOP man who turned Democrat because he had enough of the insanity of the extremist Right running our state into the fucking ground. And then of course there's the slime of Bond going after his opponent in Missouri - Talent that little slimy fucking weasel won't even discuss Iraq, the fucking war he's supported Bush on at all stops (not that Talent supported the troops very well anyway: http://capwiz.com/iava/bio/?id=352). When the subject is brought up, Talent goes after McKaskill's finances instead and refuses to even talk about THE issue of the election (of course his hands aren't terribly clean in their own right on this regard: http://www.firedupmissouri.com/talent_paseo_securities). Typical. But hey, let's not stop there with all the fun. Here's another local Bushite, and sadly to say a fellow KU Alumni, caught up in his own bullshit with Foley connections: http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansa...al/15829375.htm Then again, you guys seem to have more than just one issue with pages lately: http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter...ahl_names_.html But hey, corruption is abounds with you guys, such as one of your boys out in Nevada: http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/s.../566610130.html Sliming Hillary: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...9p-390714c.html Intimidating latino voters: http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/merc...ia/15791512.htm S. Florida's doing quite swimmingly too: http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/15856692.htm And the Tennessee ad against Ford was quite cute of you guys: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15418962/ Going after his fucking family, no less: http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/a...23tennessee.htm Yes sir, no slimeball tactics from the GOP these days. All positive. All current, present-day issues. Keep at it, Q. You give me the hearty chuckles!

all that shits pointless if you don't live Virginia isn't it moron? dumb.

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Hmm, perhaps, or we could hope that Matthews actually puts such quotes in context on fictional stories, especially those stories based on the insanities of war like that of Vietnam. Perhaps that's something that McCain could attest to, and perhaps that's why he even ENDORSED Webb's book:

please tell me again why a Virginian should vote for Webb after reading that garbage. i don't give a fuck if he wrote that shit playin scrabble. who the fuck would vote for guy like that?

remember tard, this is a race for the US S-E-N-A-T-E! he's toast. next.

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So I guess we all can understand why you're going ad hominem style rather than attacking the issues.

sure. you are a box of rocks.

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Hmm, perhaps, or we could hope that Matthews actually puts such quotes in context on fictional stories

he won't. he's smarter than you. he won't touch it with a 10' pole.

context means nothing here.

...but i'm not gonna stop you from looking like a giant dumbass apologizing for Webb.

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Originally posted by Q5echo all that shits pointless if you don't live Virginia isn't it moron? dumb.

Virginia is but a mere slither of the pie you kids throw together come election season. I'm sorry if pointing out your typical slimeball tactics makes you uncomfortable, but that's just that darn reality thingy again that's so difficult for you kids to grasp.

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