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Posted by Rodrico on Oct-01-2006 12:32:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL


i only believe in the Force



Might as well, it's about as plausible as Karma is.


Posted by spitty on Oct-01-2006 17:00:

quote:
Originally posted by slingshot
What goes around comes around.


yes. i know. you've said. fuck


Posted by Fir3start3r on Oct-01-2006 17:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Frenchie
Fate > Karma


That's intersting.
Why would you say that?

While I do believe there are thin threads that can lead to preordained outcomes, I also believe that you have the choice to choose the path on how you get there.

Karma, to me, is the fuel used along the way.
You can have a bumpy or smooth ride but the choice again, is ultimately yours.

Peronally, I always choose the smooth ride and it has always come back to me ten fold.
It can, sometimes, be a longer route but in the end, I feel better about my choice even when I really didn't feel like doing it!

I realize this may sound simple (and probably ethereal) but once you begin to consciously recognize the fruition of the seeds you've planted earlier (sometimes much earlier, as in years) there's such a great sense of peace and understanding that no drug could ever reproduce.

Ok, I'm going to crawl back up to the top of my guru mountain now...


Posted by spitty on Oct-01-2006 18:45:

quote:
Originally posted by spitty
so, for our crazy story of the weekend

two of our american friends (TDL-terry and starshine - jenn) left the guv on sat nite at 5, catching a cab back to dnmr-danielles. As terry and jenn watched the cab drive away they realized that they had left his wallet in the backseat. Now they didn't know what kind of cab it was or anything, so the chances of finding it again would be slim to none..yet they went inside, and called every cab company number they could find to no avail.

Tired and sketchy they went back to their hotel for a nap b4 the postparty.

three hours later...

enter our own 2 favourite TOTAs, cuzo and dnmr. After unsucessfully hittin up CZ after the guv closed, they decided to just trek it back to d's house to join the rest of the crew. Cuzo went to grab a cab. At the road, 3 cabs sat b4 him. with certainity cuzo picked the middle one and they hopped in. D first noticed the wallet. not saying anything she flipped it open to check for cash (of course!!!!)
but there wasn't a dime. she she spoke up..hey theres a wallet here..with ID..from north carolina..of Terry!!

the probability of this is nil..out of all the cabs in all of Toronto terry lost his wallet and 3 hrs later 2 of his best friends find it still in a cab on the other side of town???


yes, we are going to play the lottery

and

no, we will not share


^^^happened february 2005. The previous trip Jenn and Terry made up here, they had found a wallet with a hotel card and ID of an American girl. They called all the hotels and finally found her, and returned the wallet


Posted by b4k-oz on Oct-01-2006 18:47:

What goes around does come around.

I wanna believe in that more than ever right now


Posted by dance2dabeat on Oct-01-2006 19:23:

I believe


Posted by PressPLay on Oct-01-2006 20:44:

quote:
Originally posted by dance2dabeat
I believe


Me too!!!


Posted by Surreal JRS on Oct-01-2006 23:52:

As Shanny's sig says: Good things happen to good people!


Posted by Abercrombie on Oct-02-2006 00:21:

Everything happens in life for a reason. Each sequence of events trigger a pattern of other events. My way of thinking.

An interesting book I read on this what the Celestine Prophesies. It placed a lot of things for me in perspective.


Posted by Surreal JRS on Oct-02-2006 00:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie
Everything happens in life for a reason. Each sequence of events trigger a pattern of other events. My way of thinking.


"Causality. There is no escape from it, we are forever slaves to it. Our only hope, our only peace is to understand it, to understand the 'why.'" --The Merovingian


Posted by SniFFleS on Oct-02-2006 00:57:

One night after a party I was at my friends house. I left to go get something to eat stop by the ATM first. There was a younger guy sleeping inside the bank so I asked him if he was hungry. He obviously said yes. So i said id be right back. I went to Tim Hortins grabbed 2 of the same sandwhich. For some reason the girl working there said dont worry about paying and refused to take my money. I went back and gave the guy the sandwhich.


Posted by m2j on Oct-02-2006 00:58:

Life is under our contol... not god, not fate, not karma or anyother BS that humans can come up with to help control society.

Many people here say they believe in karma just because it has effected them before. That's probably because you altered your preception of reality to fit this random theory. You choose to recognize, acknowledge, and connect separate events in your life, which have no relation to one another.

"Karma" is just away to get people to act civilized and treat others the way they'd like to be treated... any they inforce this with the threat of an unknown and unexplained "force." People are afraid on what they don't understand.

Karma is the adult equivalent of the boogie monster.


Posted by loca on Oct-02-2006 01:37:

Love how the people who don't agree automatically call others' beliefs "BS" and what not.

You believe in what you believe or don't believe in your case. No need to throw words like that around (not to mention the fact that if I was Hindu I would be seriously offended).

So what if some people believe in karma? What's the big deal? If it makes people nicer then cool, makes the world a hell of a nicer place. I don't see why anyone should have a problem with that.


Posted by Frenchie on Oct-02-2006 01:38:

quote:
Originally posted by m2j


Karma is the adult equivalent of the boogie monster.


So karma lives in my closet??

quote:
Originally posted by loca
Love how the people who don't agree automatically call others' beliefs "BS" and what not.

You believe in what you believe or don't believe in your case. No need to throw words like that around (not to mention the fact that if I was Hindu I would be seriously offended).

So what if some people believe in karma? What's the big deal? If it makes people nicer then cool, makes the world a hell of a nicer place. I don't see why anyone should have a problem with that.


very well written.


Posted by Yohan on Oct-02-2006 01:48:

Well, I've spent too much time asking 'why' to significant events in my life, and still wondering if there is some invicible supernatural force fucking with me. So far, my logical brain tells that there is no such thing as 'luck' or 'fate' or 'karma', but my heart wonders...

It is comforting to know that there is a reward for positive behaviour and actions, because you know, or at least believe that you'll get something positive back in the future.

But, as some posters have wondered, does a positive action now have direct or even indirect corelation with positive actions occuring to you in the future?

So hard to tell.

For me, I'll stick to what God says and I have some sort of 'free will'. I hate to think that others are in control of what I'm suppose to be doing. It's my life dammit! I can be as good or evil as I want.


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Oct-02-2006 01:50:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
So far, my logical brain tells that there is no such thing as 'luck' or 'fate' or 'karma', but my heart wonders...


What's so hard to believe about getting lucky once in a while?


Posted by Yohan on Oct-02-2006 01:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
What's so hard to believe about getting lucky once in a while?

Because I don't like random occurances. I like my world orderly, meaning for example, if I punch someone in the face, most likely I'd get reactions like a punch back, or the guy crying, or his buddies jumping me. Not stuff like a fat girl jumping on me and making mad love to me which is as random as fuck.

Predictability may be boring, but at least you know what's coming...


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Oct-02-2006 02:03:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
Because I don't like random occurances. I like my world orderly, meaning for example, if I punch someone in the face, most likely I'd get reactions like a punch back, or the guy crying, or his buddies jumping me. Not stuff like a fat girl jumping on me and making mad love to me which is as random as fuck.

Predictability may be boring, but at least you know what's coming...


I'm confused. What does you punching someone have to do with you getting blackjack at the casino 3 times in a row?


Posted by Yohan on Oct-02-2006 02:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
I'm confused. What does you punching someone have to do with you getting blackjack at the casino 3 times in a row?

I was commenting at randomness in general, ie luck, chance, karma, whatever.


Posted by Misanthrope on Oct-02-2006 02:46:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
Not stuff like a fat girl jumping on me and making mad love to me which is as random as fuck.

Predictability may be boring, but at least you know what's coming...

You haven't met me as yet.


Posted by Yohan on Oct-02-2006 02:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Misanthrope
You haven't met me as yet.

Well, if you're anything like your posts, random as fuck?

Should be... interesting...


Posted by spitty on Oct-02-2006 03:14:

i think its a nice idea..makes for cute romance movies

but i agree with mj2. life is under your control. and also the control of the people around you


loca. i understand ones religious beliefs are a touchy subject, but if you can't listen to and defend them, then maybe you shouldn't believe them. i think a lot of beliefs are stupid, and i will tell you so. its your duty as a believer to defend it. asking them to just not talk about it shows lack of strength in ones own beliefs. if anything talking about other peoples thoughts on your own beliefs will make you understand your own better, and value them more


Posted by loca on Oct-02-2006 03:27:

quote:
Originally posted by spitty
loca. i understand ones religious beliefs are a touchy subject, but if you can't listen to and defend them, then maybe you shouldn't believe them. i think a lot of beliefs are stupid, and i will tell you so. its your duty as a believer to defend it. asking them to just not talk about it shows lack of strength in ones own beliefs. if anything talking about other peoples thoughts on your own beliefs will make you understand your own better, and value them more


I don't think you understood my point. What i was saying was that i can understand if you don't believe in the same thing as I do. What i think is ridiculous is calling it "bullshit" or anything else. There is no need to insult a belief when you want to disagree with it.


Posted by m2j on Oct-02-2006 03:40:

quote:
Originally posted by loca
Love how the people who don't agree automatically call others' beliefs "BS" and what not.

You believe in what you believe or don't believe in your case. No need to throw words like that around (not to mention the fact that if I was Hindu I would be seriously offended).

So what if some people believe in karma? What's the big deal? If it makes people nicer then cool, makes the world a hell of a nicer place. I don't see why anyone should have a problem with that.


well, I didnt have intention of insulting any beliefs/religions.
and I apologize if i offended anyone.

but i used the term BS in relation to concepts such as "destiny" or "fate" which in todays society have no real correlation with any religion, etc... and imo, even though karma started out as a Buddist belief, it has become disconnected and abstracted today. Many people believe in karma and know nothing about buddism.

I hope that clarifies everything. Cheers.


Posted by Rodrico on Oct-02-2006 03:41:

quote:
Originally posted by loca
Love how the people who don't agree automatically call others' beliefs "BS" and what not.

You believe in what you believe or don't believe in your case. No need to throw words like that around (not to mention the fact that if I was Hindu I would be seriously offended).

So what if some people believe in karma? What's the big deal? If it makes people nicer then cool, makes the world a hell of a nicer place. I don't see why anyone should have a problem with that.


Because religion (beliefs) hasnt always made the world a better place. But thats a totally diferent subject, now isnt it?


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