Melodic trance with piano and epic pads.

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Posted by clubzero on Mar-23-2002 15:56:

Hi. I really wish you'd gotten the mp3 file (it's also up at the mp3.com site).. nevertheless, good constructive feedback I'm thankful for.

Club Zero

Posted by breakaholic on Mar-23-2002 18:57:

Let's try again then with more reliable soundquality.

+ intro, especially good sounding strings & wide stereo sound.
+ overall sound, mastered?
+ background pads/strings
+ piano sound

- piano is too cliche & repetitive (I see this as negative side but this whole song is actually based to that piano pattern and there's no need you to take this as negative comment)
- kickdrum is too weak, more punch to it
- bassline, well actually it doesn't sound too bad now but still you could work with a bit .
- quite typical clap & hihat patterns, extra loop would do some good.

snarerolls belongs to neutral side, everybody has their own taste about these .

Well, I'll give this song 8/10 now but there are some work to do...

Posted by clubzero on Mar-23-2002 22:33:

Hey I really appreciate that you took the time to get the hi-quality version. Yes it was mastered at Z-Trading LTD, Espoo. Cost me 85 � by the way.. .. but I think it was wort it.

Yes.. us artists are hard to please and I agree with your comments about the snare rolls and hihats.. by the way, I've written pure breakbeat & drum n' bass aswell so I know what you mean. Usually I do spice up my trance tracks with breakbeats and it's my advice to other artists who ask me how to give that extra spark.

In this particular track the strings/pads are very dominant and the breakbeats didn't really work well (seemed like I'd forced them there) so I left them out. I worked closely to achieve the wide stereo image you mentioned.

It's good we make tracks to please artists aswell. I mean, if they please you, then it's bloody likely it will please "Joe Average". On the other hand, I doubt that "Joe Average" will think that OMG, another hihat/clap pattern... I can't stand it.. anyway u get the point.

It's quite funny actually.. I performed a little test a little while ago to some friends who don't have anything to do with electronic music or music at all as artists. I put some commercial trance (Trance 2000) in the stereo and I asked a couple of questions such as how do they hear "claps" or "hihats"... no matter how I explained they listened and couldn't understand what I meant. They could understand the rhytm and "dum ts", but I bet that if same clap & hihat samples were used in every track they wouldn't have noticed since the melodies change with every track... so people who don't know much about music (= majority of the ppl who buy) don't stop to think these things..

Anyway, thanks for your feedback (again ).

Club Zero

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