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Posted by Magnetonium on Oct-10-2006 23:04:

Re: the israeli occupation of Muslim land-- THE TRUTH

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Originally posted by homerj14


To tell you the truth, the biggest culprit here is not Israel, but USA (government). USA is one who oiled up and financed the Israeli machine. USA government is the one who built many bases all over the Middle East and the country that invaded Iraq. They're the ones that have proliferated and escalated this entire situation. Did Muslims invade the America or did America invade Middle East and Persian Gulf? Without direct US support, Israel would have been long gone.


Posted by homerj14 on Oct-10-2006 23:15:

ok I'm gonna close this thread with the picture was really just a mock of all these people I see with the shirts that say end the occupation of muslim land but I dont see much of Israel occupying anyone on that map, there actually Mates with a few countries such as Turkey.., now that magnetonium has changed the subject which has nothing to do with this and has posted anti american sentiment


Posted by Magnetonium on Oct-10-2006 23:26:

quote:
Originally posted by homerj14
ok I'm gonna close this thread with the picture was really just a mock of all these people I see with the shirts that say end the occupation of muslim land but I dont see much of Israel occupying anyone on that map, there actually Mates with a few countries such as Turkey.., now that magnetonium has changed the subject which has nothing to do with this and has posted anti american sentiment


Israel wouldn't be where it is today without American economic and military support.

But Israel is occupying Arab land though ... no matter how little, they are occupying. It's very important land, very strategic and historic. And thats why there's a bloody confrontation going on there.


Posted by Sunsnail on Oct-10-2006 23:37:

omgnb4dalock


Posted by Magnetonium on Oct-10-2006 23:47:



I am not anti-American. I am not pro-Muslim, I dont support Israel or Palestine or whatever else in that region (it doesnt interest me). I just gave a straighforward answer as to why its not really Israel, but USA who's taking over Muslim land.


Posted by homerj14 on Oct-10-2006 23:52:

^ ok, but I Dont see how USA is taking over Muslim Land? If you can name one region for me and Don't say Iraq


Posted by Magnetonium on Oct-11-2006 00:02:

quote:
Originally posted by homerj14
^ ok, but I Dont see how USA is taking over Muslim Land? If you can name one region for me and Don't say Iraq


Saudi Arabia - there are 20,000 American troops stationed there.
Afghanistan - dont know how many NATO/American troops are there.
Qatar - America's nerve center for the Persian Gulf.
Turkmenistan - American have couple bases there with couple thousand troops.
Pakistan - US military is present in bordering Afghanistan areas.

and there's gotta be some other obvious examples ... aaaa, Yemen holds few hundred American troops too, pro American leader as well.


Posted by tathi on Oct-11-2006 00:20:

quote:
Originally posted by homerj14
because palestinians HATE jews.. they would not ever do that in a million years

the Jews hate the Palestinians just as much and their IDFs modus operandi of brutal collective punishment reflects that


Posted by homerj14 on Oct-11-2006 00:56:

How is this a take over as you say?? this is helping if it was a takeover why would the countries accept them... and tathi believe me have you ever been to Israel? you dont know how many people support palestinians but there homeland always comes first so really they must to what there generals tell them even if the case is sometimes brutal..


Posted by skot_e on Oct-11-2006 01:18:

Equally there are Palestinians who just want peace with Israel. To group all together and say they hate Israel is a bit misguided.


Posted by shaolin_Z on Oct-11-2006 04:07:

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Originally posted by homerj14
blah blah keep watching Cnn


Corporate owned maintsream American media has a disproportionately lopsided pro-Israel bias, including CNN you idiot. It's virutally all across the board in this country, with hardly any exceptions. If you have nothing intelligent to say, you might as well avoid making a complete fool out of yourself evident your blatant ignorance.


Posted by homerj14 on Oct-11-2006 04:22:

Big words scare me


Posted by shaolin_Z on Oct-11-2006 04:45:

I don't recall using any, and if that's the case, you're in the wrong forum.


Posted by Dj Alex (ISR) on Oct-11-2006 21:02:

Re: the israeli occupation of Muslim land-- THE TRUTH

quote:
Originally posted by homerj14

ROFL!!!!!!


Posted by Fir3start3r on Oct-11-2006 21:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Magnetonium


Saudi Arabia - there are 20,000 American troops stationed there.
Afghanistan - dont know how many NATO/American troops are there.
Qatar - America's nerve center for the Persian Gulf.
Turkmenistan - American have couple bases there with couple thousand troops.
Pakistan - US military is present in bordering Afghanistan areas.

and there's gotta be some other obvious examples ... aaaa, Yemen holds few hundred American troops too, pro American leader as well.


...and most are there because they were asked to be there...or at least remain.

There too many local warlords/dictators for them NOT to be there.


Posted by Magnetonium on Oct-11-2006 21:39:

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r
...and most are there because they were asked to be there...or at least remain.

There too many local warlords/dictators for them NOT to be there.


Yeah, like the American-installed Royal family in Saudi Arabia. Oh, do you remember how CIA/MI6 overthrew the Iranian democracy in 1950s in favour of a pro-Western dictator? (who got overthrown in 1979). Also, do you remember Pinochet?

Every time there's an anti-American leader in Middle East, they get called evil, terrorist or whatever and eventually they get overthrown "in the name of democracy" for a "true democratic" pro-American leader.

Like in Saudi Arabia and Qatar, where they still use some grotesque torturing techniques, and how they behead criminals in public, amongst other things. But they're not evil, because they're American puppets.

On the other hand, someplace else, like in Russia or Venezuela, their leaders are questioned to bring back democracy and sway away from terrorism and corruption.


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