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Originally posted by Derivative Yeah, except for...you know...building woodwind instruments. And sub basslines. And Bass drums. Or any kind of drum for that matter. And any sort of sound that doesn't have loads of harmonic content. Or any sound that you wish to massively distort... Saying 'saw is the best waveform' even in jest is like saying 'A' is the best letter of the alphabet. I mean. What?

LOL!!!
I agree though, you can't define SAW as a best waveform. It like saying this is the best synth...There are more then one good synths, and each person got his own taste, most of the time each and every synth got his own sound and his own good/bad parts...
Also your songs will get pretty boring after a while if you use only see, you need to expend and use more waveforms so there will be atleast a bit of variation in your tracks.
That's my opinion.

where do u buy a jp 8000 from? ebay? I might want to get one.

i bought a jp-8000 a while ago. at the time, i got a sweet deal on it, but also had the option of going for the jp-8080, which cost almost twice as much.

it'd be nice to have the 8080. takes up lots less room, more features, the vocoders kick ass. just don't have the space!

bah, either way, it's a kickass synth. you can get the VSTi which emulates it though: "Supersaw."

i use my jp8000 in just about every song i make, more than the virus kc which cost 5 times more!

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Originally posted by djillicit i bought a jp-8000 a while ago. at the time, i got a sweet deal on it, but also had the option of going for the jp-8080, which cost almost twice as much. it'd be nice to have the 8080. takes up lots less room, more features, the vocoders kick ass. just don't have the space! bah, either way, it's a kickass synth. you can get the VSTi which emulates it though: "Supersaw."

The 8080? the keyless version? costs twice as much? I think you mean that the 8000 costs twice from the 8080...as far as I know the keyless is cheaper. though got more functions.

bah, either way, it's a kickass synth. you can get the VSTi which emulates it though: "Supersaw." [/QUOTE]

the vst supersaw thats ment to be the software answer to the 8080 is rubbish, sounds terrible, nothing like the 8080!!

buy both and youll soon see....

How much did you guys pay for your 8000's?

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Originally posted by jey bah, either way, it's a kickass synth. you can get the VSTi which emulates it though: "Supersaw."

the vst supersaw thats ment to be the software answer to the 8080 is rubbish, sounds terrible, nothing like the 8080!!

buy both and youll soon see.... [/QUOTE]

Agreed. The supersaw synth is good but can't be compaired to the real thing. It is fat, and good, it gives the idea of what the JP can produce but that JP itself can produce way more and in way better forms. It's basicly like having a demo synth. hehe =)

About the price I got my 8080 for about $500 and it's in Israel so it's a bit expensive. I believe it is around $350-$400 in the US, right?

$350? You can't buy the jp 8000 brand new anymore right? so are you talking about a second hand one? and second hand from the net? or do Roland sell second hand ones as well?

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Originally posted by trancey_spacer $350? You can't buy the jp 8000 brand new anymore right? so are you talking about a second hand one? and second hand from the net? or do Roland sell second hand ones as well?

bought the 8080 seconed hand from a friend (Rand & Zehavi) for about $500.

Got mine, a JP-8080, mint, boxed, manual etc a few months back for $500 Australian, or about US$375

Really do enjoy it, would recommend if you can grab a good bargain.

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Originally posted by 3rd Signal The 8080? the keyless version? costs twice as much? I think you mean that the 8000 costs twice from the 8080...as far as I know the keyless is cheaper. though got more functions.

yeah, the keyless version was going for about $800!

since I got my virus TI my Jp 8080 doesn't get all the attention it should anymore. So it just sits there gatering dust. I feel a bit bad about that.

it really does have alot of low end!

so has the virus ti.. having a jp and a ti is kinda pointless imo

abit different? they sound totally completely different. jp is the king of pads hands down, and it really has its own clean character. i'd actually take dual supersaw any day over hypersaw.. really supersaw is just so much cleaner and airy, and the trebble boost just eq's the highend perfectly.

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Originally posted by dj_palm not sure i agree that, i think the virus sounds abit diferent, VERY easy to recognize. pure saw i think is better/purer/cleaner whatever on JP while efex and sick stuff is cooler on virus. nice to have both

Waste of money having both unless you are loaded. Don't know why anyone needs two virtual analogues, even if they have different characteristics. Unless they have a shit tonne of other instruments and want a very specific sound from the JP - namely the supersaw/feedback oscillator.

Theres plenty of other synths that do things which neither the Virus nor JP can ever do. V-Synth can do variphrasing. Microwave XT can do complex FM. An Alesis Fusion will give you a pretty convincing piano and plenty of other sample playback stuff.

If you wan't variety, its a better idea to get one of every type and broaden the palette of sounds you can make.

As for the JP being the king of pads...Virus is very good at making pads because of how flexible the LFOs and mod matrix is. The polyphony is also way higher than the JPs. Way higher. Even on the B and C models. One of the greatest strengths of the Virus is its ability to make complex, evolving pads but then NI Absynth is pretty stonking at that too because you can import samples in place of oscillators, thereby building sounds out of timbres which are too complex to create using subtractive synthesis.

i just put an offer in on what i think is a great deal on a jp8080. we'll see, i was really thinking my next purchase would be a virus or a moog but who knows!

this is all the jp i can afford at the moment

http://cgi.ebay.com/....cmdZViewItem

i'm gettin an 8000 for christmas this year and i'm so excited. you can get them for less than 800 though. and most of the 8080s i've seen actually do cost more than the 8000s

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Originally posted by Enigmatic XTC i'm gettin an 8000 for christmas this year and i'm so excited. you can get them for less than 800 though. and most of the 8080s i've seen actually do cost more than the 8000s

well guess who' being robbed 2nd xmas day then

Only if better means not having a keyboard and having a vocoder instead.

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Originally posted by Derivative Only if better means not having a keyboard and having a vocoder instead.

exactly. and because right now i have no midi controller, the keyboard is a major plus.

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Originally posted by Derivative Only if better means not having a keyboard and having a vocoder instead.

+1

i prefer to have a keyboard!

I agree to Derivative, the only real difference is the vocoder! And for this u can buy a low cost Micro Korg. I prefer the keys and it's so so beautiful! I love it!

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