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1st....i don't think any 'SANE'/'normal' person would do anything like that...
all those people who commit crazy murders 'for passion' have some sort of disorder or a strange complexity that developed while growing up...
tiesto14 ....yes what she did is horrible and nuts, but there are far more worse crimes that have been commited in the past....
2nd....i have nothing wrong with abortion, as long as it's within a reasonable time period,.. not in the later stages of pregnancy..
i think many parents get emotionally attached to their baby, so as long as it's still small, that's fine i guess, plus, certain complications may occur if the baby is in it's later stages of developement...
anyway....
LATeR
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| Originally posted by davinox Be a free-thinker. |
yeh but shell probs be dead in 20, and if she gets out she'll be in a mental home...
and hehe peopel dying in the name of god malarky. ahhh...
/me is athiest too
all one can say really is that shes not worth the blood the runs through her vains.
she is the devil in disguise.
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| Originally posted by davinox Having a set of morals is good, but having them restrict your judgement is bad. Be a free-thinker. |
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| Originally posted by davinox Funny how human life is so amazingly valued by Christianity in the most strict ways, but obviously God does not feel the same way. Slaves in the Bible were not people, but property, and it was not murder to kill one. Hmm...who looks barbaric now? Pro-Abortionists, or Christains? |
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| Originally posted by tiesto14 LOL reread what u wrote...ur new hear..well then HOW have you heard all of my arguements...shit if it wasnt for me half these arguements would NOT of been any fun...i am the only one disagrees with everyone else...and there is no such thing as a shitty arguement...the only arguements that ARE shitty are the ones not argued |
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| Originally posted by tiesto14 thats not true at all...but think what you want...i am not getting back into the abortion debate....and actually my arguement on that was right on according to many people...so thnaks..but no thanks on the challenge |
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| Originally posted by tiesto14 HHHMMMM WASNT IT GOD..that flooded the earth during Noah's Ark to rid the world of all the fucked up people and things that were going on...yes it was....and just for your information..MORE people have died in the name of God then for anything else in history..... |
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| Originally posted by tiesto14 And it also depends on whether or not you beleive in a fairy tale of an old man in the sky who reins over us and judges are every action for which if we do wrong we have to beg for his forgiveness... |
Michael Russo do u live in etobicoke?
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| Originally posted by Michael Russo And all abortion arguments aren't reasoned out. |
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| Originally posted by Michael Russo up, *apparently* thats what happened. But there's a lot of stuff in the Old Testament I don't believe. |
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| Originally posted by Michael Russo It's not a fairy tale. God exists. I don't feel like arguing right now, but, let me assure you, the arguments for his existence far outweigh the arguments against his existence. |
silly people, believing in a "God", but without the Bible, or Torah, or something that you have to believe is RIGHT, how do you know who you are believing in?
tiesto14, you say "I believe in God"... but you don't believe in the Bible...hmm... so what God do you believe in?
Just saying, "I believe a God exists." will 'get you to hell' the same as saying, "The Biblical God sucks shit, and I hate him."
1) You need to believe in a CERTAIN God, you need to worship that God, and you need to cleanse your sins, blow up a World Trade Center, sacrafice a goat, whatever, to get there.
2) Or you can be agnostic, and say, "Fuck it, I'm not getting involved in religion."
3) Or you can be atheist, and say, "Fuck it, religion is made up shit."
Being anything else but one of these three things is IGNORANT. Just saying, "Oh yeah, I believe in God," but not actually believing in something, just saying "Yeah, he exists," doesn't help.
Christains and Atheist alike agree in that.
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| Originally posted by davinox tiesto14, you say "I believe in God"... but you don't believe in the Bible...hmm... so what God do you believe in? |
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| Originally posted by davinox Just saying, "I believe a God exists." will 'get you to hell' the same as saying, "The Biblical God sucks shit, and I hate him." |
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| Originally posted by davinox 1) You need to believe in a CERTAIN God, you need to worship that God, and you need to cleanse your sins, blow up a World Trade Center, sacrafice a goat, whatever, to get there. |
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| Originally posted by davinox 3) Or you can be atheist, and say, "Fuck it, religion is made up shit." |
Vivid Boy, I don't live in Etobicoke.
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| Originally posted by tiesto14 Made uo shit...look at the Bible....Noahs Ark, parting of the Red Sea and Adam and Eve theory are IMPOSSIBILITIES in a LOGICAL world based on scientific FACTS.....not one of those stories could ever of happened..yet people beleive it....wanna know why...because people are scared...thats why....they are scared if they dont beleive some story like those that God will hate them and blah blah blah....science fiction |
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| Originally posted by tiesto14 OK OK...so u SELECTIVELY decide on your own basis what is real and what is not....OK |
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| Originally posted by Michael Russo tiesto14, take some time to reread your posts. Listen to what you are saying. God, by His very nature, MUST be above our finite world. He has control over everything... if you don't believe that He can do something as simple as parting the Red Sea, then you don't believe in God, plain and simple. |
In America, Rob a bank, Get life, Kill someone, Get 40 years...I dont get it... In some country's, Kill someone, You die without a trial, You rob a bank, You get your hands cut off...All depends where you live...
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| Originally posted by tiesto14 Well since IT WASNT God who parted the Red Sea..i dont know what your talking about...since it was Moses.....geeezzz arent u the ones who claim to be so religous..i am far from religuos and even i know Moses did....reread that Bible pal...and build a stronger |
i don't understand what you are debating against me tiesto14...
1st of all, YOU CAN'T BELIEVE IN PARTS OF THE BIBLE! It's all, or nothing. You say that God is right some of the time, and wrong some of the time?
2nd)
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| "LOL LOL....if you beleive that then i feel sorry for you...thats where the Bible deceives people...basically kiss Gods ass or u burn in hell...horse shit...blah blah blah blah" |
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| BLOW UP A WORLD TRADE CENTER.....u sick fucking little shit...over 3000 people died in those buildings...and you seem to condone it simply cus it was done in the name of a God.. |
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| well if thats what it takes to have a God love you for your worshipping or what have you..then all i got to say is FUCK GOD AND FUCK EACH AND EVERY GOD THAT EXISTS.....how could you try and lecture ME then turn around and say something as moronic as that....NO GOD WOULD WANT 3000 innocent people to die.... |
Completely barring the issue of whether she's mentally ill or not, I don't think it really matters.
For anyone who thinks she should be let go, or she's been punished enough, etc. etc., look at it like this:
If she came into your house and killed your 5 kids because she was mentally ill, would you forgive her?
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| Originally posted by Devbert Completely barring the issue of whether she's mentally ill or not, I don't think it really matters. For anyone who thinks she should be let go, or she's been punished enough, etc. etc., look at it like this: If she came into your house and killed your 5 kids because she was mentally ill, would you forgive her? |
I don't really know if the death penalty is right or wrong. Sometimes people need to die. other times, I don't know. Especially in a case of mental illness.
The fact of the matter is there's the TRUTH and then there's those who choose not to follow it. People these days have completely fallen from the truth. The TRUTH is GODS word. Writen in the Bible for everyone to be saved. Jesus Christ came to grant us life eternaly in heaven. It's simply a matter of admitting you're a sinner and confessing with your lips that Jesus christ is your savior. He came to save everyone no matter how bad you are or ever were he forgives all.He will come again to judge the liveing and the dead. Unfortunately this world is on the path of destruction there's no stoping it. You can already see now that he has set down his plans for end time events. In the end there will be one Goverment.All sorts of violence is poping up all over the world people will do anything for peice. Religious leaders will join with leaders of other religions and decide to drop there differences and focus on the one thing they want "peace".
God tells us not to worry about these things they have to happen in order for everything to be fullfilled. The problem with people these days is they're putting their faith in themselfs. the truth is we are nothing with out christ. If we dont look to the lord for our guidence we are going to fall just as we are begininng to. The United States was built opon some great God fearing men and very great values and priciples. Since the 1960s the US has been falling so rapidly from God and is heading towards destruction. All great nations throughout hisory have fall from with in, Corrupion comes from with in. ALl this libral thinking sounds great and so peacefull to those of this world. But it's so very far from the TRUTH. People no long believe in one TRUTH they feel everyone has to find out their own truths and discover whats right for themselves. YOu see we are nothing on our own we cant find the answers on our own. We have to look to God and Put our faith in him.
Look at such topics as abortion, homosexuality, suicide, Divorce.
when people hear the word abortion they don't seem to see it as KILLING INOCENT BABIES. Do people have any respect for life. For what god has created. You say well shouldnt a mother have the right to choose. TO choose to kill inocent life? I dont know about that one. how can the same people fighting to abolish the death penilty be for Abortion.
Let's look at homosexuality. there are those who hate homosexuals for no reason but being different. there are those who support them and feel they should have the same rights as everone else. Well GOD says you are to Love everyone, GOD says homosexuality is wrong. People these days have been lied to and are being influenced by all this pro choice libral bull shit and are falling into it. People these days believe you are born gay and that its a natural thing. Based on what? if you actually spent the time to look at what these people are bassing this on and what the world is believe you'd be very shocked. Every single experiment that has been carried out has a full list of flows that totaly debunk every statement made from them. But do people know that, NO. The media 90% Hollywood which suports gay lifesyles, jumps over eveylittle thing that is found and preaches it to the world when the facts arent even stated correctly. A number of years ago resuluts of a study done on a number of Identical twins was out. The media claimed that it was proven that being gay is genetic because in this experiment sets of identical twins were both gay. The statement was that it must be genetic is in these cases both pairs of twins were homosexual, since they are genetically the same. What they failed to mention were the 7 sets of twins in which one was gay and one was straight. also the fact that all these twins were brought up in the same enviroment the other. Well sure that totaly supports the fact that its behavior and not genetic. Look the fact of the matter is There is a lot of Bullshit in our society these days and you have to be aware of it. You have to be inteligent. You have to know the Truth GODS word. I'm not here to write a 20 page essay on the world today and Gods role in it. I'm here to tell you my friends that if you are lost, if you are confused and dont know were you are heading and what your purpose here on earth is GOD IS THE ANSWER. Only he can free you from the bull in this world only he can't grant you eternal life. So stop looking at the problems and to the world for your comfort look to God. God bless you all.
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| Originally posted by extulas The fact of the matter is there's the TRUTH and then there's those who choose not to follow it. People these days have completely fallen from the truth. The TRUTH is GODS word. Writen in the Bible for everyone to be saved. Jesus Christ came to grant us life eternaly in heaven. It's simply a matter of admitting you're a sinner and confessing with your lips that Jesus christ is your savior. He came to save everyone no matter how bad you are or ever were he forgives all.He will come again to judge the liveing and the dead. Unfortunately this world is on the path of destruction there's no stoping it. You can already see now that he has set down his plans for end time events. In the end there will be one Goverment.All sorts of violence is poping up all over the world people will do anything for peice. Religious leaders will join with leaders of other religions and decide to drop there differences and focus on the one thing they want "peace". God tells us not to worry about these things they have to happen in order for everything to be fullfilled. The problem with people these days is they're putting their faith in themselfs. the truth is we are nothing with out christ. If we dont look to the lord for our guidence we are going to fall just as we are begininng to. The United States was built opon some great God fearing men and very great values and priciples. Since the 1960s the US has been falling so rapidly from God and is heading towards destruction. All great nations throughout hisory have fall from with in, Corrupion comes from with in. ALl this libral thinking sounds great and so peacefull to those of this world. But it's so very far from the TRUTH. People no long believe in one TRUTH they feel everyone has to find out their own truths and discover whats right for themselves. YOu see we are nothing on our own we cant find the answers on our own. We have to look to God and Put our faith in him. Look at such topics as abortion, homosexuality, suicide, Divorce. when people hear the word abortion they don't seem to see it as KILLING INOCENT BABIES. Do people have any respect for life. For what god has created. You say well shouldnt a mother have the right to choose. TO choose to kill inocent life? I dont know about that one. how can the same people fighting to abolish the death penilty be for Abortion. Let's look at homosexuality. there are those who hate homosexuals for no reason but being different. there are those who support them and feel they should have the same rights as everone else. Well GOD says you are to Love everyone, GOD says homosexuality is wrong. People these days have been lied to and are being influenced by all this pro choice libral bull shit and are falling into it. People these days believe you are born gay and that its a natural thing. Based on what? if you actually spent the time to look at what these people are bassing this on and what the world is believe you'd be very shocked. Every single experiment that has been carried out has a full list of flows that totaly debunk every statement made from them. But do people know that, NO. The media 90% Hollywood which suports gay lifesyles, jumps over eveylittle thing that is found and preaches it to the world when the facts arent even stated correctly. A number of years ago resuluts of a study done on a number of Identical twins was out. The media claimed that it was proven that being gay is genetic because in this experiment sets of identical twins were both gay. The statement was that it must be genetic is in these cases both pairs of twins were homosexual, since they are genetically the same. What they failed to mention were the 7 sets of twins in which one was gay and one was straight. also the fact that all these twins were brought up in the same enviroment the other. Well sure that totaly supports the fact that its behavior and not genetic. Look the fact of the matter is There is a lot of Bullshit in our society these days and you have to be aware of it. You have to be inteligent. You have to know the Truth GODS word. I'm not here to write a 20 page essay on the world today and Gods role in it. I'm here to tell you my friends that if you are lost, if you are confused and dont know were you are heading and what your purpose here on earth is GOD IS THE ANSWER. Only he can free you from the bull in this world only he can't grant you eternal life. So stop looking at the problems and to the world for your comfort look to God. God bless you all. |
funny, like George Carlin said...
"When it comes to bullshit, big time, major league bullshit, you have to stand in awe, in awe, of the all time champion of false promises and exaggerated clams, religion."
http://www.jestercourt.com/~capella/aguide/
should give you a brief glimpse why Religion (namely Christianity) is total bullshit. 
ARGH! Now for my reply's. Dont take it as a threat, Because you live in a corrupt world blinded by sins, I'm not trying to convert anyone, Or say how everyone should be. I have a few friends that are totally oposite of me. It doesnt botehr me any, They are good people. All of the proof you need is faith. Faith in whatever you believe. If you belive cows,dolphins, guns, computers,science, Whatever you believe your god is, Go with it.You have to be pretty corrupt to want to be a president, But the constitution and the BIll of Rights was all based upon the Bible, And how god wanted people to be treated. Having a slave. That would explain WWII? September 11th wouldnt have happened if we didnt join, We treated the blacks bad, And the Germans treated the jews bad. Two wrongs dont make a right, And that is what people are starting to show. People HATE me for not being involved in this governments corruptness. And I love them, Because thats my faith. But now its not just them anymore worrying about being blown up when they walk to the store, It could be us, At any moment. And Jitler would not have hated the Jews if they didnt abandon god, (If anyone says "Hitler wasnt Christian!" or my favorite "Hitler was jewish!" No, he wasnt, My great grandfather and my grandfather were both on the Axis side in WWII, And I know for facts that the thrid reich was not gay\whatever...) The whole war wouldnt have happened! And everyone would be getting along fine now. Like God wanted to. Is school teaching against god now? Or is it just society?
P.S
Dont say I am racist cause my great grandfather and grandfather were in WWII, Their was a thing called Dictatorship,Brainwashing going on.... Sorry this isnt good, Im a little not their now 
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| Originally posted by Devbert I don't really know if the death penalty is right or wrong. Sometimes people need to die. other times, I don't know. Especially in a case of mental illness. |
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| Originally posted by extulas And yes, Christians are usually the first to forgive people for people who have done bad things. |
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| Originally posted by extulas ARGH! Now for my reply's. Dont take it as a threat, Because you live in a corrupt world blinded by sins, I'm not trying to convert anyone, Or say how everyone should be. I have a few friends that are totally oposite of me. It doesnt botehr me any, They are good people. All of the proof you need is faith. Faith in whatever you believe. If you belive cows,dolphins, guns, computers,science, Whatever you believe your god is, Go with it.You have to be pretty corrupt to want to be a president, But the constitution and the BIll of Rights was all based upon the Bible, And how god wanted people to be treated. Having a slave. That would explain WWII? September 11th wouldnt have happened if we didnt join, We treated the blacks bad, And the Germans treated the jews bad. Two wrongs dont make a right, And that is what people are starting to show. People HATE me for not being involved in this governments corruptness. And I love them, Because thats my faith. But now its not just them anymore worrying about being blown up when they walk to the store, It could be us, At any moment. And Jitler would not have hated the Jews if they didnt abandon god, (If anyone says "Hitler wasnt Christian!" or my favorite "Hitler was jewish!" No, he wasnt, My great grandfather and my grandfather were both on the Axis side in WWII, And I know for facts that the thrid reich was not gay\whatever...) The whole war wouldnt have happened! And everyone would be getting along fine now. Like God wanted to. Is school teaching against god now? Or is it just society?P.S Dont say I am racist cause my great grandfather and grandfather were in WWII, Their was a thing called Dictatorship,Brainwashing going on.... Sorry this isnt good, Im a little not their now |
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| Originally posted by extulas The TRUTH is GODS word. Writen in the Bible for everyone to be saved. |
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| Originally posted by extulas Religious leaders will join with leaders of other religions and decide to drop there differences and focus on the one thing they want "peace".. |
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| Originally posted by extulas People no long believe in one TRUTH they feel everyone has to find out their own truths and discover whats right for themselves. YOu see we are nothing on our own we cant find the answers on our own. We have to look to God and Put our faith in him... |
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| Originally posted by extulas . So stop looking at the problems and to the world for your comfort look to God. God bless you all. |
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