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Originally posted by Psy-T astroboy - abstract > still life

heheh I agree. As far as art goes still life is shit boring. But there's nothin like trying to draw a good old apple next to a banana to train your hand/eye. Remember before Picasso or Dali painted all their awesomness they started of as classically trained artists that could draw realistic depictions with the best of them.

That's what shits me about a lot of modern artists their work is abstract because they have no choice but to stick to abstraction... at the end of the day, abstract or not, many of them can't draw exactly what they see in their mind's eye because they don't have the hand-eye coordination. The key to good art is to learn to follow all the rules first... then learn to break them.

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Originally posted by astroboy heheh I agree. As far as art goes still life is shit boring. But there's nothin like trying to draw a good old apple next to a banana to train your hand/eye. Remember before Picasso or Dali painted all their awesomness they started of as classically trained artists that could draw realistic depictions with the best of them. That's what shits me about a lot of modern artists their work is abstract because they have no choice but to stick to abstraction... at the end of the day, abstract or not, many of them can't draw exactly what they see in their mind's eye because they don't have the hand-eye coordination. The key to good art is to learn to follow all the rules first... then learn to break them.

i concur

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Originally posted by Akridrot WOW.. great post! I fucking LOVE IT! Oh man, you have no idea how many times this post made me grin. You dropped so many little gems. Hahaha, if only everything else was explained like this! How to hold the pencil, paper size, how much time I should expect to take (I didn't know people drew things for HOURS before or came back to it later.. honestly). Awesome. Up until now I've never used composition in any of my drawings. Once again, GREAT POST. Thank you.

No worries. Little things like this seem basic but are fundamental to learning to draw properly. Just remember not to press hard on the pencil and to stick to the hard grade pencils until you are at the very end of your work, and ready to start detailing and shading.

Also it is crucial you can set the composition up somewhere it won't be disturbed so you can come back to it or you outline the objects on the surface so you can set them up again EXACTLY as they were. As you draw more and more still lifes you'll find yourself getting more and more pedantic about details... and a pear that's a few millimetres off could just be enough to drive you crazy and make you start a whole drawing over again. If you're learning properly drawing will at the very least change the way you see and perceive things and probably change you as a person too (there is a reason so many artists are eccentric).

How you hold your pencil isn't that crucial. I was always told I should hold it as depicted below right but never got used to it. The main point to remember is that most of the time you're drawing with your wrist/arm, particularly when you're using a large sketchpad. Fingers should come into it at the end when you're laying down the detail.
http://www.tpub.com/content/draftsm.../14263_24_1.jpg

More complex objects should be seen as being composed of basic geometric shapes stuck together. Once you figure out the proportion and placement of these shapes with a light line, you can start joining them together to create the complex object.

If there's anything you learn today, remember to start with composition and rough shapes and very gradualy work towards defining the forms... putting in details at the very very end.

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Originally posted by pvdAngel Neat!

Thanks...I think I might have a few other pics...but not sure if its something the OP cares to see.

Try to draw realism into your sketches...look at a frame as a whole and try t draw it exactly as it looks, it'll be hard as fuck at first but with practice you'll learn your shades and curves...also try to draw a lot of nature at first...the leaves of trees and clouds are perfect for beginners...

good luck man...and show us your drawings!

this is a great thread. lots of good posts here.

all i can say about the Wacom tablets is that they feel completely different than "real" sketching/drawing, and to me it just feels a bit unnatural. i use one at work, and it's great for very detailed stuff, but the feeling of plastic against plastic (pen/surface) is very hard for me to get used to for drawing.

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