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| Originally posted by stan229 Oh alex, btw.. there has to be a headphone jack because if you look, right under the knobs.. tehres a headphone button for each side of the mixer.. how bad is behringer equpiment? the features of the unit look quite pleasing compared ot hte m-audio though.. you dont even have to lift your hands to the mosue or keyboard (maybe if youre loading htrough tracks but im sure that can be programmed to one of hte buttons ) |
X-session or x-session pro?
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| Originally posted by stan229 X-session or x-session pro? |
kind of ironic.. usually a "pro" should be more money lol.. how i see it, the pro is more for using dj software and the regulra is more for ableton cuz its all rotary knobs?
grrr what to do what to do, really leanin towards to the behringer .. not so much the hercules cuz i dont see anything worth a $250 price tag over the $143 of the behringer with i think teh same features
I suggest this X-session Pro, it looks as though it has an authentic Mixer feel to it. For the record I use a BCR2000 for my EQs/effects + M-Audio Project mix (I alternate it as my volumes/filters for Djing and its real use, for production!) for volumes+filters.
I may consider buying this thing though, just to see if it's a toy or not.
They could have made a better x-session than before, and instead we get a toy dj console. Lame. Give me more knobs, more stuff I can decide what to use MYSELF...
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| Originally posted by Alex I suggest this X-session Pro, it looks as though it has an authentic Mixer feel to it. For the record I use a BCR2000 for my EQs/effects + M-Audio Project mix (I alternate it as my volumes/filters for Djing and its real use, for production!) for volumes+filters. I may consider buying this thing though, just to see if it's a toy or not. |
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| Originally posted by AlexXdude They have a demo unit of the X-Session Pro on display at Moog Audio downtown, on St-Laurent boul. I played around with it abit, it's a little big bigger than I thought, which is nice, since it didn't look like a toy. |
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| Originally posted by stan229 did they have the BCD2000? i wonder how it feels... the maudio felt nice |
The X-Session Pro doesn't have a headphone jack, I'm 99% certain. I have the older version and it does not have one, it has Midi-in, Midi-out, and USB jacks. Headphone stuff needs to actually be done using your computer soundcard or an external mixer, depending on the user software and configuration.
I haven't yet seen those 2 headphone switches and the other buttons explained. But if it is similar to the original design, the user's music software allows assignment of most of the knobs and buttons to different purposes. So the user doesn't need to use the controls the way they are labelled.
With the original X-Session although it looks less DJ-ish you can set it up so it works pretty good, for 2 channels anyway with Traktor. I have mine set with level and 3 band EQ for 2 channels, kill switches on each band from 6 of the 10 assignable buttons, bandpass filter on one channel (L or R depending on "focus"), headphone volume and headphone mix, master volume, and 2 buttons for headphone preview channel selection. With the X-S Pro it has a better layout for 4 channels but I suspect I won't really need 4, and their button switches are labelled so they're best for deck control start/stop etc but I guess I could re-assign them.
Overall the Pro isn't really a big step forward from the original, the controls are just in a different layout. If I wanted to upgrade and still use just one midi box I'd probably be better off to go to the UC-33 or something else. Maybe using both the original and Pro versions of the X-Session boxes (cabled together with midi) would be another way to control Traktor 3.
My X-Session layout for Traktor 2.53:

hm.. then i guess id have to check out the behringer then
i wish i would get to feel it and see how it is
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| Originally posted by AlexXdude They have a demo unit of the X-Session Pro on display at Moog Audio downtown, on St-Laurent boul. I played around with it abit, it's a little big bigger than I thought, which is nice, since it didn't look like a toy. |
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| Originally posted by Alex Ya im gonna head down there sometime this week or next, might pick up a trigger finger also, hehe. |
I asked the guy, they only received a demo unit, which doesn't work apparently. Also, just to confirm things, it doesn't have a headphone jack.
Hm.. just stumbled upon this.. sonuds kinda bootlegish thouhg
http://www.kontrol-dj.com/html_eng/index.html
what do you mean bootleggish? but yea ive come across that aswell anyone have experience with that one?
^^ I looked at it awhile ago.
I think its around $400 correct? There is a video somewhere online with a guy using it.
I found it on traktor forums and heard good things about it.
The jog wheels can be used for scratching and stuff.
bootleggish as in company isn't existant, no direct price, and no shipping to USA yet. Kinda looks to have the same jog dials and features of the BCD2000.. $400 is kinda hefty though
Not sure if anyone else knows about it, Just saw it on Skratchworx.
Vestax VPC-100

Looks Interesting.
Very interesting.. looks like it does everyhting the BCD2000 does with Vestax quality and a 4band eq
How much? I want! 
Stolen from SkratchWorx
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Vestax by their own admission have steered clear of the purely digital market because they wanted to see where it was going and also because they didn't have the expertise to enter the market successfully. So I was relieved to see that at last they've tackled the tough market and come out with something that should keep the digital DJ happy. We saw this at PLASA hooked up to Traktor and it worked pretty well. The platters are heavy but pretty responsive. It lacks curve controls but this really isn't designed to be a scratchers deck. But for a club DJ using Traktor, Ableton etc, this makes an ideal console to make it more of a DJs experience than pointing and clicking the mouse to rock a crowd. The VPC-100 has loops, a comprehensive effects section, cue points, full EQ and pitch control so it's pretty fully featured. BTW that's my picture taken at PLASA hence the high res version. |
That Vestax looks ok, but again, I dont get why they dont just put 4 channels on it, like... arg.
Yeah, I mean one of the major advantages Ableton has over the other digital alternatives is the fact that you can have an unlimited number of channels for as many loops and samples as you can shake a stick at, so a 2 channel mixer is pretty pointless!
it would be great for traktor/virtualdj/torq/etc..
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