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Anyways, I think I've made my point. There's plenty of options and resorting to attack dogs certainly isn't necessary.

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy Also, what's an attack bong?

Freudian slip?

Security Guard Patch...


I dunno...got nothin'...

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r Freudian slip? Security Guard Patch... I dunno...got nothin'...

Actually, now that I think about it, a higly concentrated dose of THC in whatever form would be pretty affective at rendering a prisoner of any size and drug tolerance incapable of offering any resisting. And THC isn't lethal. You'd have to smoke like a truck full of pot to actually OD on marijuana, which is humanly impossible. Seriously .

If I can come up with all of these ideas in this short time span sitting in front of my computer, clearly there are several other options.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Actually, now that I think about it, a higly concentrated dose of THC in whatever form would be pretty affective at rendering a prisoner of any size and drug tolerance incapable of offering any resisting. And THC isn't lethal. You'd have to smoke like a truck full of pot to actually OD on marijuana, which is humanly impossible. Seriously .

LOL, I figured you were looking at one on your desk/living room when you typed it. I'm all for this one (though it sucks that they'd get them for free while there are millions of Americans paying their hard earned dollars for it), but didn't you see Reefer Madness. Marijuana turns people into crazy psychopaths who murder, rape and steal.

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r Freudian slip? Security Guard Patch... I dunno...got nothin'...

Nice find Fir3sstart3r. That badge would be perfect for the prisoner subduing THC SWAT team units.

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy LOL, I figured you were looking at one on your desk/living room when you typed it. I'm all for this one (though it sucks that they'd get them for free while there are millions of Americans paying their hard earned dollars for it), but didn't you see Reefer Madness. Marijuana turns people into crazy psychopaths who murder, rape and steal.

LOL

EDIT: While observing the change in tone of this thread from a serious one to a more light hearted one, I realized every "cloud" does indeed have a silver lining .

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy LOL, I figured you were looking at one on your desk/living room when you typed it. I'm all for this one (though it sucks that they'd get them for free while there are millions of Americans paying their hard earned dollars for it), but didn't you see Reefer Madness. Marijuana turns people into crazy psychopaths who murder, rape and steal.

According to the statistics, its the alcohol, violent video games and movies and family violence that actually kills more people and causes more damage to people. Mmarijuana is yet to kill a single person. It's the person's choices that kill people. If I am addicted to trance music, lets say, and then go on to kill someone, should they blame trance music for it?

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Originally posted by Magnetonium According to the statistics, its the alcohol, violent video games and movies and family violence that actually kills more people and causes more damage to people. Mmarijuana is yet to kill a single person. It's the person's choices that kill people. If I am addicted to trance music, lets say, and then go on to kill someone, should they blame trance music for it?

Sarcasm isn't your forte, is it, LOL?

video games my arse

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN video games my arse

I could be incorrect with the direct connection between video games and violent shootings, pardon that, but overall I hope you see my point.

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy Sarcasm isn't your forte, is it, LOL?

I have to admit, sarcasm is not my specialty. Especially considering that I didnt read the whole thread, just the second page mainly.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium I could be incorrect with the direct connection between video games and violent shootings, pardon that, but overall I hope you see my point.

yeah, i do see your point. as a gamer its just one of my pet topics is all there is yet to be any study that provides a causal link between violence and video games.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Anyways, that's just something off the top of my head. I'm sure there's plenty of other ways it could be done.

Hit them with chemicals?
Hardly think someone has the time too load up the right dosage for someones approximate size, weight, physical condition, illnesses and history of allergies... and damn, he's just stabbed me while I was doing it.
There isnt a 'one size fits all' with sedatives You mess it up, they stop breathing.
So, we can move onto peppersprays and teargases. Which are all fun and games in the open but in a confined environment you just end up gassing yourself most of the time and then its just all crying and tears. Plus like the sedatives, who knows if they will have any effect at all, some people just arent slowed down at all by them, especially if theyre on methamphetamines or psychotic and some others just have their throat close over and cant breath.
Stun guns, another mixed bag which I'd hardly call 'technically non-lethal' as a shot too the chest can stop the heart and lungs, like the sprays sometimes does nothing and people recover very quickly once the juice is off.
Beat them with a stick. Yeah well thats a solution, but more likely you'll either get hit or stabbed in the process, have the stick taken off you and beaten with it yourself or if that doesnt happen then your chances of doing some permanent damage too them from fractures, brain damage and mutilation. Hardly a solution if you just want someone too move out of a cell, I've seen first hand what riot control batons do too people and it's fairly ugly. They snap bones like chalk, sounds kind of like someone dropping a watermellon or snapping a green stick.

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Well, cops with the proper training in combat/martial arts can easily do that, with out risking much at all. That should greatly reduce the number of cops required to do the job. Or you could have specialists for that job. You could also hire more cops. And I don't see how any of this would be impractical. It would only create more jobs. Plus, I think cops should have proper martial arts/combat training in general instead of being out of shape/fat fucks shoving donuts down their throats.

Well, theres a gross generalisation.
So for both civil and gaol duties we have to find an employee's for the police services specialist ninja, athlete marksmen.
Then we're going too end up with no one to do the job, then no policing gets done because there isnt anyone who matches up to the qualifications, dont know about you but there is a distinct absence of martial arts specialists looking for work in the police service.
Finally, theyre just people doing a job the best they can with the training they get and in any field you'll find, its done too a budget which doesnt extend too making the average copper a martial arts and marksman expert in a matter of months. That and policing doesnt involve enforcing laws at the barrel of a gun or fist all the time, a lot of it just seems too be quite dull and routine really.

At the moment its socially acceptable too have pooch take the hits and deal out a few hits rather than the policeman, they're comparatively cheap to train, dont have pensions, sick days and heal up quickly if they do get hurt. Policemen dont, they have families too consider and probably dont want too risk their arse all the time on the job when it comes to dealing with someone violent if there is an easier solution like having someone bitten by a dog or the threat of being bitten by a dog.
They are a tool, sometimes tools get missused and abused just like anything else.

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Computer games and violence, oh boy thats just one of the problems with society that simply looks for a scapegoat really rather than address the problem of its own idiots that dont have any self restraint, morals or responsibility.

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