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Originally posted by Pjotr G You think you're the bomb because you use "instruments" or sumpin? Congratulations. You can do varying thigns with a pc, including being a trendy kiddie copying other songs. You can ALSO do that with hardware. Original my ass. What do you think softsynths don't allow you to edit your own patches?

With someone comming from the Netherlands, I would think you would have better english. You sound like an american, No offense... And no, I dont think I am a bomb of any sort. I just find it amusing to people who expect to get stuff done with PC application programs. And what about the people out their who make the good choice of not using Windows? Or Mac's? And use Unix only? How do you expect them to do anything?...?

every single trance production studio i have ever seen has both hardware and software. you think people still burn directly to CD from non-computer hardware? You think they master their track with hardware compressors, limiters, eq's, that cost thousands of dollars, when you can just do it in sound forge? If you still do everything by hardware only, you're alittle behind the times, and your wasting your money, plain and simple.

first off....u shittying here on computers but ask yourself one question.....what is a synth in your opinion?? its a fucking computer for fucks sake, yea it don't look like one but it does have a fucking chip inside which would be classified as a computer, u get all those LFO sounds from your synth..how u think they come to be? they are processed by a computer...so if u have the ability to do the same on your PC which is linked to a synth then why not? u sound like u was born in the fucking 70s where a computer was only for typing or someshit......how u gonna shit on cakewalk? its a great midi proggy if u know what u are doing, cubase is confusing...the only reason its confusing is couse your don't got enough brain to acutally understand that shit...so while sitting here shitting at something that actually makes music sound better go and realize the beauty of it.

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Originally posted by DJ Teknique first off....u shittying here on computers but ask yourself one question.....what is a synth in your opinion?? its a fucking computer for fucks sake, yea it don't look like one but it does have a fucking chip inside which would be classified as a computer, u get all those LFO sounds from your synth..how u think they come to be? they are processed by a computer...so if u have the ability to do the same on your PC which is linked to a synth then why not? u sound like u was born in the fucking 70s where a computer was only for typing or someshit......how u gonna shit on cakewalk? its a great midi proggy if u know what u are doing, cubase is confusing...the only reason its confusing is couse your don't got enough brain to acutally understand that shit...so while sitting here shitting at something that actually makes music sound better go and realize the beauty of it.

So..SYnthesizers from the 70's were computers? Werent computers in the 70's the size of a whole room?!

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Originally posted by DJ Chrono every single trance production studio i have ever seen has both hardware and software. you think people still burn directly to CD from non-computer hardware? You think they master their track with hardware compressors, limiters, eq's, that cost thousands of dollars, when you can just do it in sound forge? If you still do everything by hardware only, you're alittle behind the times, and your wasting your money, plain and simple.

Excuse me for being original. And I'm not wasting any money.

Extulas I have finaly come to the Conclusion that you know nothing about PRO music production.

Today Cubase, logic ,Nuendo should be the center pice of anyones professional studio set.

here are some of the top Cubase users in the world many of them are into movie scoring.

Hans Zimmer ( Legendary film composer Hans Zimmer did the score for, Gladiator, The thin Red Line, Perl harbor ,The Prince of Egypt, The Lion King, Crimson Tide, Rain Man)

Harry Gregson-Williams (composer of Chicken Run, Enemy of the State, Antz, and many others )

Paul Haslinger (has achieved a great deal of success. In 1996, he began collaborating with Graeme Revell, who is one of the most prominent and active film composers in Hollywood today. Paul has been credited as a music programmer, arranger and orchestrator on many high-profile film projects, including: Spawn, Chinese Box, Phoenix, The Negotiator and The Siege )


now why do these guy's use Cubase and other software in there productions, now why don't you.


I can see this thread going for a long time.

Peter Campbell you don't understand! these movie score-ers only loop some beat from paul van dyk

And the comments about synth being a DSP chip.....well not all synths. So I guess extular has a setup off striclty analog gear, and still works with din-sync (if you know what that is) He'll never touch a nord lead, that things is almost a computer and heaven forbid! And don't diss my english, you may only do that if you can argue with me in dutch.


btw I disagree hardware compressors and the likes are a waste of money! I still like hardware better for everything except sequencing and recording.

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Originally posted by Pjotr G he'll never touch a nord lead, that things is almost a computer and heaven forbid!

no nord leads for Extulas, dam that would sux

Pro Tools...

U cant tell me that NO producers use this or atleast something like it...?

And wuts with all the ''Excuse me for being original'' crap...?

I see nothing original about u're lame @$$ chatting the crap that u are!



[Dan]

Pro tools.....well Mauro uses pro tools...and BT i think


however proTools is more audio-recording oriented. So more something for "live" bands. Plus to have some functionality it costs as much as a BMW. But if you have the dough I reckon it'd be cool (the best plugins)

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Originally posted by extulas So..SYnthesizers from the 70's were computers? Werent computers in the 70's the size of a whole room?!

no actaually MACS weren't the size of the whole room.....now u are going back to the 50s-60s.....

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Originally posted by Pjotr G And the comments about synth being a DSP chip.....well not all synths. So I guess extular has a setup off striclty analog gear, and still works with din-sync (if you know what that is) :.

i wasn't refering to ALL synths but for the technology we have now most of them are.....

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Originally posted by D_G Pro Tools... U cant tell me that NO producers use this or atleast something like it...? And wuts with all the ''Excuse me for being original'' crap...? I see nothing original about u're lame @$$ chatting the crap that u are! [Dan]

As I said before, I use one computer application. And thats cool edit pro. For basic recording. Whats wrong with thinking application's suck? I think Digital Cable sucks cause they gave me a bunch of free porn channels, ANd ended up paying 275$ back the next month

Blah blah blah blah blah...

Okay d00d... but i bet u havent tried to make a tune or atleast tested out many of the porgrams that u are saying, ''suck''

And also, do u like Mauro Picotto..? (not off topic, just answer my question!)

[Dan]

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Originally posted by D_G Blah blah blah blah blah... Okay d00d... but i bet u havent tried to make a tune or atleast tested out many of the porgrams that u are saying, ''suck'' And also, do u like Mauro Picotto..? (not off topic, just answer my question!) [Dan]

Yea, I have. I have all of the programs I mentioned, Plus lots more that I didnt mention. And Mauro Picotto puts on a good show. I wouldnt buy anything he made, But I would go see his show again.

Extulas, how long have you been producing for, anything for us to listen to?

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Originally posted by Peter Campbell Extulas, how long have you been producing for, anything for us to listen to?

Why, Matter of fact, I do. I have a break beat's song I made. And I also have a mix I did with my freind. The song here is a break beats song.

I have been producing for 2 years of just learning and 3 years of actually doing stuff = 5 years if you wnat to count teaching.
(DBS means Def By Stereo me and my friends "duo" or whatever you want to call us.)

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Originally posted by Pjotr G btw I disagree hardware compressors and the likes are a waste of money! I still like hardware better for everything except sequencing and recording.

You would rather pay tons of money on high end hardware compressors when you can have the industry standard software compressor, that does the exact thing, for less money? Ever use the waves renessance (spelling?) compressor? Its amazing, dont know how hardware could do a better job.

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Originally posted by DJ Chrono You would rather pay tons of money on high end hardware compressors when you can have the industry standard software compressor, that does the exact thing, for less money? Ever use the waves renessance (spelling?) compressor? Its amazing, dont know how hardware could do a better job.

Yes as a matter of fact I will spend all that money once I have it. And industry standard? That's still hardware (fatman, focusrite, real nice compressor etc). Plus it's difficult to use a PC as an insert effect on yer mixer. Well you can of course, but then you use it for nothing else, and then still a compressor is cheaper than a pc with software. Not that I want to drag this argument all the way on. Nowadays the gap between hard and software is smaller of course, it's becoming more of a matter of taste. My taste goes to hardware.

extulas - Okay, well apparently he is an avid user of FruityLoops so it cant be that bad...

Oh and u have used these programs to make music... well thats okay then...

[Dan]

You can't really say any program is crap if you can properly use them... think about that

Hell, I could easily say that all hardware is useless and pure shite just because I don't know how to use them...

OF COURSE software can't make sounds anywhere near as hardware, but that is not to say they are crap.
They give us (poor 18-year-old students) the possibility to make our dreams come true without needing to spend all our money on to something that would be gathering dust on some corner because it would be too hard to use...

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Originally posted by D_G extulas - Okay, well apparently he is an avid user of FruityLoops so it cant be that bad... Oh and u have used these programs to make music... well thats okay then... [Dan]

I used a Roland Mc-303 and a Korg AE-1 for that. So...I dont know where out of your ass you pulled that from. Its a shitty track. I just wanted to see what the 303 was capable of.

WTF...???

I was saying that Mauro Picotto uses Fruity....dumb @$$

[Dan]

Haha!

DG!

Ur really trying to piss this guy off arn�t ya?

Maybe ur not but it seems like ur trying to...

No luck so far.......

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Originally posted by D_G WTF...??? I was saying that Mauro Picotto uses Fruity....dumb @$$ [Dan]

Well, Just because a producer says that have programs in their equiptment list. DOesnt mean they use it for every thing. Maybe he is a 'advid fruity loops user' still doeasnt phase me. I never said I want to jump on his back. I just said he puts on a good show...

As my grandfather use to say:
"Germans dont get mad, They get revenge." Well..It has a different meaning in this case.. I just cant find the right description

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