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Posted by Beethoven on Oct-31-2006 15:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Aquarian
(and by the way, all of this is exactly why Tiesto is not a good DJ by any standards).


Why everybody hate Tiesto? HE IS A GREAT DJ!!!


Posted by Push2005 on Oct-31-2006 15:15:

lol @ this thread


Posted by Aquarian on Oct-31-2006 15:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Beethoven
Why everybody hate Tiesto? HE IS A GREAT DJ!!!


Well no wonder you think DJs have no skill - you don't know how to reconize it in the first place.


Posted by DOOMBOT on Oct-31-2006 15:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Beethoven
Why everybody hate Tiesto? HE IS A GREAT DJ!!!

Do you dj?


Posted by nchs09 on Oct-31-2006 15:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Beethoven
WRONG.

What do you mean Tiesto can't mix???

Tiesto is a GREAT DJ!!! He played in the Olimpic. Billion of people watch Tiesto!

Tiesto is a Trance Mover. Thats why we LOVE HIM.
quoted for sig!


anyhow i like this thread


Posted by Real on Oct-31-2006 15:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Push2005
lol @ this thread



To the archives!


Posted by SMC on Oct-31-2006 15:45:

Bullshit thread. Something easy can be good and something hard can be bad. I can make a lovely sandwich in 2 minutes, and i can make an advanced dish in 2 hours that tastes like shit. There is no direct relation between (level of) skill or effort needed and how the result is interpreted.

Then DJing and making music are two different things. There is a demand for guys who play records in a continous mix because ppl like it. A pianist with 30 years of training who can play blindfolded will not satisfy the needs of those ppl. In that context he sucks, but that does of course not mean that being good at playing piano is shit, it's just a different thing.


Posted by Omega_M on Oct-31-2006 17:10:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Massive
whose clone is it this time?


Lol, yeah looks more like an Alt than a new TA.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Oct-31-2006 17:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Allied Nations
Oh yeah, and most house/trance djs produce their own tunes anyways


Doesn't matter. The two things should always be segregated.


Posted by Phortastic on Oct-31-2006 17:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Beethoven
WRONG.

What do you mean Tiesto can't mix???

Tiesto is a GREAT DJ!!! He played in the Olimpic. Billion of people watch Tiesto!

Tiesto is a Trance Mover. Thats why we LOVE HIM.



Posted by ibizzzaaa on Oct-31-2006 19:24:

To those who think that learning to DJ is easy: you will be surprised how many dj's there are who have been doing what they do for 8+ years and still cannot go through playing a 1 hour set without trainwrecking at least once.

Examples: Tiesto, Pete Tong ..... Pulsedriver, Blank & Jones


Posted by RJT on Oct-31-2006 19:27:

quote:
Originally posted by SMC
Bullshit thread. Something easy can be good and something hard can be bad. I can make a lovely sandwich in 2 minutes, and i can make an advanced dish in 2 hours that tastes like shit. There is no direct relation between (level of) skill or effort needed and how the result is interpreted.

Then DJing and making music are two different things. There is a demand for guys who play records in a continous mix because ppl like it. A pianist with 30 years of training who can play blindfolded will not satisfy the needs of those ppl. In that context he sucks, but that does of course not mean that being good at playing piano is shit, it's just a different thing.


You really do make some of the most quality posts on this forum.


Posted by Phortastic on Oct-31-2006 19:27:

U forgot Oakenfold


depends on his coke level though


Posted by Clovis on Oct-31-2006 19:42:

quote:
Originally posted by DOOMBOT
Do you dj?


Of fucking course he doesnt.


Posted by winston on Oct-31-2006 19:45:

You def. have no idea about DJing, you might as well drink some poison and go to sleep.

You're saying as a dj you have to "act?" Well, i hate posers man. I don't go to a club to see an "overweight chump" play 80's choons, I go to a club to have a good time and get some proper education.

Djs have it easier than musicians? It's like separating chlorophyll from plants. Djs are musicians, most of what you call "djs", usually have their own studio and make their own tracks. The mere action of composing and writing makes you a musician, the whole idea of arranging music, mixing, eq'ing and playing for the entertainment of others, makes you a musician. Therefore, djs are musicians...

I've seen straight faced djs that bring the house down every night they play. Djing is not easy, you can play cheesy records all the time, that's easy but all it makes you is a freakin sheep.

Once you're looking under the kompakt back catalog and digging for "Guerilla records" on your basement, or playing that long lost track on WARP you can consider yourself DECENT.

Go to bed...


Posted by Dan1584 on Oct-31-2006 19:49:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Massive
People with one leg can't run

and Tiesto can't mix


Very true, but people with one leg get a bionic one, and DJ's who can't mix get Traktor or Albeton


Posted by jahnlay on Oct-31-2006 20:10:

Both Musician's amd DJ's are entertainers. They use their skills to take people on a journey and help them enjoy music. Each has it's own set of skills.

I am a musician and a DJ, and trust me, neither one is easier than the other, they both require extreme dedication and passion. Lord knows, they're not the best paying jobs in the world!


Posted by UWM on Oct-31-2006 20:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Dan1584
Very true, but people with one leg get a bionic one, and DJ's who can't mix get Traktor or Albeton


A shit DJ is a shit DJ. Ableton or Traktor aren't worth shit if you don't have a clue as to what you're doing.


Posted by Clovis on Oct-31-2006 20:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Dan1584
Very true, but people with one leg get a bionic one, and DJ's who can't mix get Traktor or Albeton



Traktor and Ableton do not turn mixer knobs for you.


Posted by justin on Oct-31-2006 23:54:

quote:
Originally posted by d-miurge
DJ vs Musician is as idiot as eating a pizza vs playing football

LOL!!! stoopid


Posted by Phortastic on Nov-01-2006 01:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Dan1584
Very true, but people with one leg get a bionic one, and DJ's who can't mix get Traktor or Albeton


Pretty obvious u havent used Ableton in your life, cause u are talking shit

And if u used it, then u are just plain stupid.


Posted by PlasticSoul on Nov-01-2006 03:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Traktor and Ableton do not turn mixer knobs for you.


+1...


ableton ownz...


Posted by j�c� on Nov-01-2006 03:33:

quote:
Originally posted by ibizzzaaa


Examples: Pete Tong .....


Pete Tong doesn't need to mix well. He is probably the most influential person in EDM of all time.


Posted by kush paintings on Nov-01-2006 04:37:

This is why I am all for the Ableton movement. With so many djs now being excellent producers, there could be the same live element to a DJ show as a rock/classical concert. In fact, I would argue that in the near future, it won't even be an arguement: the best djs will be the most talented musicians in the world, as they will be able to produce at a world class level (and show those skills live), while having truly spontaneous shows all the while having the structure and flow that isn't there for the vast majority of concerts for other genres.


Posted by Polt on Nov-01-2006 04:55:

I think DJing does require skill - just not in the way you are thinking about it. A musician tones his skill to play the music. A DJ brings the music to the people and the mixing, crowd interaction, song selection and personality are skills they use to do so.


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