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Posted by montana on Nov-12-2006 16:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
Can't complain about the soothing lounge effect of this mix, it is off the scale. Some wonderful tunes, and the samples slide neatly into the blend to create an even more cinematic feel. Nicely done uncle dub.

On the downside, I sorely miss a bit of bite and edge. The way it is right it all sounds really smooth and soothing, but I'd like some parts where things go a bit more abrasive/weird/abstract as well to provide some contrast and to veer away a bit from the coffee table-factor.

Nevertheless, keep up the good work.


yeah, as you may have noticed, i went for that feel, i wanted to be more the feel of an ambient mix this one, but with my own twist. i know i fell into the cliche's of making it too smooth but it just felt more natural to make this one smoother while the other was rougher, this was a continuing of the last one. and yes, the cinematic feel was just natural when i worked in the whole bit of match point when matching it to clair de lune.

ye, it lacks some of the bite and the edge, but mieh, i did that in the first part. that was that, this is this, altho i was trying to get the rougher edge after going through the very downtempo stage, i added the funkst�rung track and the koop track to break the molds and then whacked sia & morricone before going in the dreamy state of moogwai and then to end it very rough with the noisy jelinek track over the bauri remix of ber�md.

but really, i'm pleased that you liked it because your mixes was my inspiration of making the first one and then second one.

ye, cheers tho.


quote:
Originally posted by Deeedeee
Montana, just wow...

I let this whirl just before I was going to sleep. I felt so blessed to be alive, merely for warm blankets, my pup at my side and the progressions from Ennio onwards. I don't know which was greater, bearing witness to Sigur Ros live or the transition into Mogwai in the comfort of my own bed. You sir, have *consummate* taste.

oops/ forgot to state that I topped off your mix with Otis Redding's 'Sittin' on the Dock of the Bay


thanks for the kind word estella. i don't consider my taste to be that great but it comes with the territory, it's comes with not being afraid to try new music or even looking for something other than just vanilla or whatever. finding new good exciting music and sharing it to the world in this fashion is something i like.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Nov-12-2006 19:02:

Emiliana Torrini + Sia + Match Point + loved the first one = downloading.


Posted by Allied Nations on Nov-12-2006 19:24:

This mix has been a huge help to me today.


Posted by Deeedeee on Nov-12-2006 20:04:

Listening again.

Montana, can you post up the first mix? -por favor-


Posted by montana on Nov-12-2006 21:13:

here, estella, http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=307093


Posted by Yohan on Nov-12-2006 21:29:

This is fantastic stuff.

Just really chilling set. Perfect to just relax.


Posted by Laszlo on Nov-12-2006 21:45:

Mint, just as the first dub experience. Love em both.

Sand Leaper - have you done mixes like these one as well? Provide us with a link pretty please

edit - never mind, found one in your sig (just read your post as a quote at fist)


Posted by Echo of Silence on Nov-12-2006 22:20:

It's beautiful, Tony. It just totally captivated me. I was feeling anxious and I dunno, kind of depressed when I put it on, and the music did calm me, lighten the tension inside of me, a bit.

When I get back to my room, I'm going to listen to the two sets together. Part I then Part II.

Thank you, for finally putting this together and upping it for us.


Posted by bas on Nov-12-2006 22:46:

Ah, this must have been what you were trying to link me to on MSN. I was in the bathroom

Anyway, will download when I get home


Posted by Sand Leaper on Nov-12-2006 23:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Laszlo
Sand Leaper - have you done mixes like these one as well? Provide us with a link pretty please


That one is not really like this set, but hopefully you'll like it anyway.


Posted by D-res on Nov-13-2006 05:40:

I liked this quite a bit montana. VERY chill. absolutely perfect relaxation set. and a big +1 on the samples. they fit very nicely.


Posted by LiveTheDream on Nov-13-2006 12:41:

very nice


Posted by RJT on Nov-13-2006 17:29:

I've been immersed in Plato's theory of forms over the last few weeks, beyond which, I just revisited the movie "American Beauty" this weekend - Both, in subtly different ways, discuss the idea of seeing beyond the physical to see and understand beauty that lay beneath life as we experience it. I seldom have moments I would describe as "seeing through" what is real to the underlying beauty in life, but one of those moments came this morning on a long drive home, listening to this set.

I'd had a rough start to my morning - My car died, and I missed class, on top of which, getting my car fixed cost near $300. I was frustrated to say the least as I hit play on my iPod to kick off this set. All I wanted going into it was something to relax me, something to get lost in for an hour and regain my composure. As the first notes of "Nature Boy" rang in my ear, I felt an instant calm. Miles is one of my alltime favorites to fall back on when I'm feeling rough, his "Flamenco Sketches" is the ultimate musical valium for me. "Nature Boy" hit me much in the same way this morning.

I think it's important for me to note that reviewing this in any kind of technical sense would prove a futile effort for me - I honestly don't know how you approach setting up your mixes. But with regard to timing and programming - You've clearly got an incredible sense of mood and emotion.

Following "Nature Boy," I honestly thought the set lost direction for about 10 minutes. The ambient sounds that appear from about 6:00-20:00 are very nice, but seemed to drag on a touch for me. It was really no matter though, as I didn't feel removed from the set during this period, just perhaps a slight lack in direction. This was remedied around 21:00, and from here on out, I was hooked.

At 28:00, the sounds of the rain creep into the set, and at the very moment the first raindrops were audible in the mix, a nice little downpour began all around me. What was even odder, was in 4 minutes when the rain sounds left the mix, the around me simply stopped. In a few moments, I believe it's the Sia track that begins, and the snow began to fall. It was perfect. At this point I was pretty much chilled out and thoroughly enthralled with the mix. It seemed like a combination of the music and my environment had completely relaxed me - I couldn't have felt better.

The segment running from about 34:00-End was absolutely perfect. I really don't know how you choose to organize a set such as this, but I know that the end of this one flowed beautifully. The second to last tune (I think), with the melodic guitar line, was my absolute favorite tune in the set and clearly signalled the end was near. And the end simply felt like just that; The end.

Absolutely masterful set Tony. Well done.


Posted by montana on Nov-13-2006 18:49:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
*snip*


haw a big review, first off, thank you for your kind words.
uhhm, hmm, how do i set up mixes. well to be honest, it's not that different from making an housemix. you just have the freedom of not relying on beats, you instead have more focus on direction & programming and also how you want your soundscapes to be.

yeah, i'm well aware that this also implies in making house mixes but house is meant for dancing to, which gives you freedom of cutting corners and just deliver banging stuff, which is often done in the clubs because people want to dance, they don't care fuckall about the lush soundscapes. anyhow ye, cheers


Posted by RJT on Nov-13-2006 20:49:

quote:
Originally posted by montana
haw a big review, first off, thank you for your kind words.
uhhm, hmm, how do i set up mixes. well to be honest, it's not that different from making an housemix. you just have the freedom of not relying on beats, you instead have more focus on direction & programming and also how you want your soundscapes to be.

yeah, i'm well aware that this also implies in making house mixes but house is meant for dancing to, which gives you freedom of cutting corners and just deliver banging stuff, which is often done in the clubs because people want to dance, they don't care fuckall about the lush soundscapes. anyhow ye, cheers


Sorry to ramble on so much in my review - I know it's not really a specific/technical review, but I think it's a good snapshot of what went through my head as I listened to it


Posted by Pinokio on Nov-14-2006 00:48:

Hey Great set
I liek the this kind of ambient stuff.

The only think I din't like was the 1 song, Iw ould have prefer the mix if it started on the second song. I feel the first song it's completely different from the rest of the set. Well that is just my personal opinion, beacuse I've seen people here that have enjoyed the whole mix.

I like the atmosphere of the mix and the flow.

I have a technical Question
With these kind of mixing do you beatmatch tracks or their bpm's are just near or some are distant?


Thanks for the mix


Pepa


Posted by TearsInTheRain on Nov-14-2006 08:25:

Uncle Montana....

Agree that the first track seems out of place. Maybe it weeds out the impatient..? Reminds me of Moulin Rouge...... (see sig)

****************************************
Now - the curtains open.....

Have you created a new genre of music/mixing here? I mean that in a sincere way - I find myself wanting to turn off all of the lights, and hold my headphones tight to my ears listening to the art...

Next time you use rain - try grabbing some rooftop conversation from Blade Runner...... (see screenname) Or..the Cure - Prayers for Rain....

Sphongle's first album, and most of Richard James (Aphex Twin) old music gave me a "mind fuck" that I still remember. This mix does the same. I flippin love it.

42 mins in - still amazing. Pure genius. You've created a theater in my mind.

A+. Top Shelf mix.

-R&D


Posted by montana on Nov-14-2006 16:50:

@ Pinokio (+tearsintherain)

to really enjoy this one more you have to understand this is a continuing of the first part. i left the miles davis track in the first one in limbo, faded it out before finish because i knew that i was going to do a part 2. in a sense, the mix really actually starts at track 2, but it still doesn't.

about the technical question. True ambient music doesn't have a beat, that doesn't mean that it 0bpm (in reality most ambient tracks are at 40-100bpm), it's 0/0 instead of the normal 4/4. meaning you don't have restrictions there. which is why ambient dj's often overlayer tracks over each other. and also take advantage of throwing something that might be 4/4 or 3/4 or whatever over some ambient stuff, because it will not clash (well, yeah, it might keyclash but just because you don't have any restrictions to beat, you just stop using your ears).

uhhhm, hmm, where was i.... oh ye. the simple answer to your question, to the tracks that don't have a beat, i don't need to beatmatch them, to tracks that do have a beat, i try to use the intros & outros and also filters to make them slide together.

@ tearsintherain.

new genre of music/mixing, not really, pfft, that's like insulting the people was doing this 15/20years ago in the chillout rooms at the clubs. mixmaster morris, alex patterson, youth, jimmy cauty and all the others who reinvented ambient music for the club generation was the people that created this. they used to do big journeys in the smaller chillout rooms by taking all forms of ambient music, nature sounds, deep house and other music, fusing them together to create a seamless magical aural journey.

i actually was planning to use the blade runner conversation but thought it was really to cliche. plus, the segment of match point that i fitted dead on with clair de lune so i really had no intensions of changing once i snapped everything together

The cinematics of this mix that i added was something i wanted to do, it's making a soundtrack to a movie that doesn't exist, or something.

ye. cheers for both of you liking the mix.


Posted by kavanaghm on Nov-15-2006 00:54:

amazing

cant stop listing to this mix brillant hope to hear a lot more from you keep the good work up.


Posted by LuckyKarma on Nov-15-2006 09:14:

This is the first ambient, chill type music I've really listened to, and it is incredibly enjoyable! I'd like to find more of this stuff


Posted by Echo of Silence on Nov-15-2006 18:33:

TITLE "At Least It Was"
PERFORMER "Emiliana Torrini"



These two sets together (Four Phases and More Phases) are simply spectacular, Tony. Orgasmic. Two hours of happy time!


Posted by Pinokio on Nov-15-2006 22:43:

quote:
Originally posted by montana
@ Pinokio (+tearsintherain)

to really enjoy this one more you have to understand this is a continuing of the first part. i left the miles davis track in the first one in limbo, faded it out before finish because i knew that i was going to do a part 2. in a sense, the mix really actually starts at track 2, but it still doesn't.

about the technical question. True ambient music doesn't have a beat, that doesn't mean that it 0bpm (in reality most ambient tracks are at 40-100bpm), it's 0/0 instead of the normal 4/4. meaning you don't have restrictions there. which is why ambient dj's often overlayer tracks over each other. and also take advantage of throwing something that might be 4/4 or 3/4 or whatever over some ambient stuff, because it will not clash (well, yeah, it might keyclash but just because you don't have any restrictions to beat, you just stop using your ears).

uhhhm, hmm, where was i.... oh ye. the simple answer to your question, to the tracks that don't have a beat, i don't need to beatmatch them, to tracks that do have a beat, i try to use the intros & outros and also filters to make them slide together.

@ tearsintherain.

new genre of music/mixing, not really, pfft, that's like insulting the people was doing this 15/20years ago in the chillout rooms at the clubs. mixmaster morris, alex patterson, youth, jimmy cauty and all the others who reinvented ambient music for the club generation was the people that created this. they used to do big journeys in the smaller chillout rooms by taking all forms of ambient music, nature sounds, deep house and other music, fusing them together to create a seamless magical aural journey.

i actually was planning to use the blade runner conversation but thought it was really to cliche. plus, the segment of match point that i fitted dead on with clair de lune so i really had no intensions of changing once i snapped everything together

The cinematics of this mix that i added was something i wanted to do, it's making a soundtrack to a movie that doesn't exist, or something.

ye. cheers for both of you liking the mix.



Thanks for the Answer =)


Posted by Az on Nov-24-2006 15:56:

this is truly beautiful, it shall be listened to again tomorrow to help recover from mr scruff and claude vonstroke
on a side note, I want to put it in Sia


Posted by montana on Nov-24-2006 16:48:

who the hell doesn't. sia furler <3


Posted by Psy-T on Nov-27-2006 05:11:

beautiful stuff, i enjoyed this second part more than the first, and i truly hope for 2 more parts (phases) to complete this saga.

no negative nor constructive comments to hand out, this is great as it is. saved.


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