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Posted by astroboy on Nov-13-2006 14:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Danny Ocean
what for? you seem to fail at that as well.

And Astro, i've seen clips and he's just not my thing. It's just the way he comes across as an idiot that kills it for me, i find him annoying.

There's other comedians who use political commentary that i enjoy more. Am i missing out? Maybe i'de have to watch the film instead of clips, but his character alone annoys me so i doubt i'de go see it.


I haven't seen the film so i can't vouch for it. I've just seen his work on the Ali G shows. All Cohen's character's rely to some extent on him convincing the interviewee that he is an idiot within the first few seconds or before the interview.

It's not just the fact that there is political content there, it's the method he uses. The brilliant thing about this satire is that he doesn't need to take the piss out of them, or state his opinion. He puts the people in a position where they take the piss out of themselves. A redneck making an idiot of himself is much funnier to me than a guy standing up and telling me why he thinks rednecks suck.


Posted by Vlad on Nov-13-2006 14:46:

If youre gonna watch the movie, and just watch Borat, than yea, you missed the point. Its not about what Borat is doing, its about how people react to him.


Now gypsy! Give me your tears!


Posted by Danny Ocean on Nov-13-2006 14:50:

quote:
Borat spanked by angry Yank


By EMILY SMITH
US Editor
November 13, 2006

COMMENT ON THIS STORY


BORAT star Sacha Baron Cohen was beaten up by a passer-by after he tried to play a prank as his alter ego.
He approached the man and said: �I like your clothings. Are nice! Please may I buying? I want have sex with it.�

But the bystander didn�t see the joke. He took one look at Cohen and punched him in the face.

The funnyman � known for his Borat catchphrase �Jagshemash!� � yelled for help but was slugged again and again.

He was rescued by actor pal Hugh Laurie who had been on his way to a New York bar with Cohen.

Rescue ... Hugh Laurie
Picture: SPLASH

Laurie rushed to help and pushed the man away as Cohen struggled to his feet. A pal of Cohen said: �Sacha couldn�t resist playing the fool as Borat, but picked on the wrong person.

�I guess this guy thought he was being attacked by someone unstable and lashed out. Sacha is very lucky he didn�t get a much worse beating.�

The incident took place after Laurie and Cohen appeared on the US TV show Saturday Night Live. The Brit comics were on their way to a late dinner when Laurie suggested they visit a bar in Manhattan.

Laurie, 47, told friends he feared Cohen was going to get badly beaten up. Luckily, 35-year-old Cohen did not receive any lasting scars.

Studio chiefs have warned Cohen to avoid pretending to be the spoof Kazakhstan TV reporter on the streets. Since the film was launched he has only appeared in character while promoting the movie on American television shows.

Borat: Cultural Learnings of America For Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan is tipped to become the highest grossing comedy of all time.


source


Astro, i understand the beauty of the method, and i could appreciate it. I just don't appreciate his characters.
Check out this story i posted, the lines in bold: �I like your clothings. Are nice! Please may I buying? I want have sex with it.�
I guess this is were hes trying to come off as an idiot..i don't find it funny at all though. Dosen't he say similar phrases to everyone else?

Im sure the scenario he gets people into may be funny, but him just being there would keep me from enjoying it..i guess it's just me.


Posted by zokissima on Nov-13-2006 14:52:

Its amazing that as soon as something goes mainstream or explodes, it doesn't take too long for someone to protest against it, and claim it to not be 'the next big thing'.
Thing is, no one ever claimed this to be any such thing. It does appeal to a wide demographic, and it is light-hearted humour. Besides that, what exactly don't you get about it? It's over-rated? By whom? What exactly ISN'T over-rated? It's not over-rated, it is merely popular.


Posted by Vlad on Nov-13-2006 14:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Danny Ocean

Astro, i understand the beauty of the method, and i could appreciate it. I just don't appreciate his characters.
Check out this story i posted, the lines in bold: �I like your clothings. Are nice! Please may I buying? I want have sex with it.�
I guess this is were hes trying to come off as an idiot..i don't find it funny at all though. Dosen't he say similar phrases to everyone else?

Im sure the scenario he gets people into may be funny, but him just being there would keep me from enjoying it..i guess it's just me.



This is the exact point I made mention to, youre too focused on Borat... the funny part of the whole thing is that he got the shit kicked out of him. Its not about how he interacts with society, its about how society interacts with him.


Posted by Danny Ocean on Nov-13-2006 14:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
This is the exact point I made mention to, youre too focused on Borat... the funny part of the whole thing is that he got the shit kicked out of him. Its not about how he interacts with society, its about how society interacts with him.


yeah but this thread is about Borat himself being lame, as well as his jokes. Like i said, im sure the scenarios might be funny, but the guy is just annoying. Anyone have a clip that they consider funny and wouldn't mind posting it?


Posted by Slylee on Nov-13-2006 15:02:

Re: Borat is lame.

quote:
Originally posted by Danny Ocean
Am i the only one who thinks this guy completely sucks goat cock and he's overrated like shit? i haven't seen his movie, and it dosen't really catch my attention...i saw him at the Tonight Show and it just seems like he tries too hard and entertains the easily amused.
Definitely not my type of humor...but why is everyone going so nuts over him? i just don't see it. I don't think the guy deserves all the attention he's getting either, tool.


we're not friends any more.


Posted by Danny Ocean on Nov-13-2006 15:05:

Re: Re: Borat is lame.

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
we're not friends any more.



Posted by Cro_Addict on Nov-13-2006 15:18:

Ive been watching BORAT since 1997, thats 9 years now....and he never disappoints...always funny....

like everyone said ur missing the big picture... but everyone is entitled to their opinion.


Posted by Vlad on Nov-13-2006 16:15:

If anyone can find a vid of Borat at the Pedicostal Church... post it, that shit is hilarious.


Posted by kr00t0n on Nov-13-2006 17:07:

Altogether now!

"Throw Danny Ocean down the well!
That the CORe may be free!
Grab him by his horns!
And we'll have a big party!"


Posted by Silky Johnson on Nov-13-2006 17:10:

He's making a mockery of Americans and their ignorance and hypocrisy, what's not to like??


LOL


Posted by Vlad on Nov-13-2006 17:12:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
He's making a mockery of Americans and their ignorance and hypocrisy, what's not to like??


LOL



He could do it anywhere. Its not like US is the only place.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Nov-13-2006 17:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
He could do it anywhere. Its not like US is the only place.




Agreed, but it's the US he's always chosen.


Posted by bas on Nov-13-2006 17:17:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Agreed, but it's the US he's always chosen.

Not really, he just finished up with all of England. Before the Ali G show he did Borat for another comedy show and he went all over England and Europe. I guess with Ali G's success over seas, he was alot more recognizable.


Posted by LiveTheDream on Nov-13-2006 17:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
He could do it anywhere. Its not like US is the only place.


Not really, Americans are the best at being ignorance and hypocrisy

I dont really like the clips i have seen of Borat, but i understand where he is coming from and he makes a good point.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Nov-13-2006 17:20:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_bas
Not really, he just finished up with all of England. Before the Ali G show he did Borat for another comedy show and he went all over England and Europe. I guess with Ali G's success over seas, he was alot more recognizable.




Ahh, I didn't know that. The only Borat I ever saw was on Ali G.


Anywho, he makes a mockery of ignorance and hypocrisy ANYWHERE. What's not to like??


LOL


Posted by Vlad on Nov-13-2006 17:21:

quote:
Originally posted by LiveTheDream
Not really, Americans are the best at being ignorance and hypocrisy

I dont really like the clips i have seen of Borat, but i understand where he is coming from and he makes a good point.



Pleaaaaaaase... Hes going into the backwoods of the country. The major cities dont have brainwashing (to that level) - too diverse.


Posted by dj tek on Nov-13-2006 17:22:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Agreed, but it's the US he's always chosen.

anywhere besides US wouldnt be as funneh because going to US is like going to 20 different countries at the same time..


Posted by kr00t0n on Nov-13-2006 17:22:

Anyone who can get a bunch of rednecks to sing along to 'Throw the jew down the well' is funny by my books


Posted by Vlad on Nov-13-2006 17:30:

quote:
Originally posted by kr00t0n
Anyone who can get a bunch of rednecks to sing along to 'Throw the jew down the well' is funny by my books



The thing at the church in the movie is 100 times funnier.


Posted by RJT on Nov-13-2006 17:33:

Oddly, after all my excitement for the film, I don't think I'm even going to bother seeing this movie until it's out on DVD. Borat was absolutely terrible on almost every talk show he appeared on to promote the film, and the immense overexposure has really, really doused my desire to see the film at all.

The sketches he did on the Ali G show were terrific - Why he chose to appear on all these talk shows where the humor of Borat simply (and obviously) doesn't work is beyond me...


Posted by Vlad on Nov-13-2006 17:37:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
The sketches he did on the Ali G show were terrific - Why he chose to appear on all these talk shows where the humor of Borat simply (and obviously) doesn't work is beyond me...



You could tell that hes nervous as hell on the talk shows to do some of the shit he was thinking.


Posted by RJT on Nov-13-2006 17:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
You could tell that hes nervous as hell on the talk shows to do some of the shit he was thinking.


Beyond that, I just don't think the character works in the least when you have someone like Conan or Jon Stewart who is so clearly "in" on the joke. It's the interviews and sketches he's done where people have no clue who he is or what he's going to do that are gold; That Conan interview in particular was painful to watch.


Posted by Slylee on Nov-13-2006 17:41:

oh and i saw the movie before really knowing about the Ali G show. i don't watch that much TV...maybe one or 2 shows, so I hadn't heard of him. i thought the movie was the first time he came out with that.


so i was at a friend's on saturday and we were watching it...hilarious!! he was acting like this gay austrian reporter and he was interviewing football players. lmao

i was dying laughing.


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