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Modern video games suck because modern gamers suck.
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| Originally posted by Arbiter Modern video games suck because modern gamers suck. |
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| Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN the ability to write un-biased reviews of something like a game is a skill that is hard to learn. |
Whatever.
Yeah, Mario World was amazing. Contra too.
But for every Mario World, and for every Contra, there were a dozen shitty games. We remember these classics with an eye of nostalgia, while easily forgetting the 95% of games from the same era that wern't memorable at all.
Yeah, a lot of modern games suck. But things are no different now than they were 15 years ago. For every dozen shitty games that get released today, we get a game like Ninja Gaiden, or Resident Evil 4, or Half-Life 2.
^^ thats exactly right. games are a freakin expensive business nowadays, and developers know if their titles dont have the newest & shiniest graphics people of jupiterone's era wont even bother looking at them. its as much the gaming public's fault as it is developers that things are in the state of affairs they are.
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What I meant to get at was... Personally, I don't think IGN is all that un-biased in their reviews, nowadays. :/ |
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| Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN well, i dunno about the console section, but i have no complaints re the PC side of things. |
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| Originally posted by Yan Don't often frequent that place but I believe all the score-fixing is going on in the console section, mainly. |
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| Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN oh really? i spose its always gonna be more prevalent in the consoles, coz theres much stiffer competition, as the platforms are in direct opposition. do you have any evidence or something that i could follow up? id like to know what was going on. |
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| Originally posted by Yan I definitely remember having some... but the articles have mysteriously disappeared off the net. Mainly it was a few people following every review posted by huge game rating sites. They made graphs and got all technical and shit. I'm trying to google it now but I'm having a hard time finding any results. |
thats pretty disappointing really. ive played a ton of the PC games theyve reviewed in the last 18 months, and their reviews seemed pretty solid and honest to me 
I do understand where you are coming from pkcRAISTLIN, I may not necessarily know much about gaming or too much of the history or marketing. I do work for an HL2 modding team as a 3d Modeller and sound engineer for Resistance & Liberation.
I'm just annoyed by the fact that the prime soul of sales usually is graphics. Which don't get me wrong is a great feature BUT companies such as EA Games suck the big one as far as support on lower/mid end computing goes. I'm pretty much pissed off at the fact that shit cost so much money to get a game looking decent on the PC.
Didn't think this thread would necessarily start somewhat of a flame war, but oh well it is the internet after all.
i think ill buy a nintendo Wii so that i can play Mario World.. OH and MarioKart too
..even tho i already have those on SNES 
I saw a Nintendo WII commercial for the first time tonight on TV...forgot what game was being advertised, but that shit looked sick! And the use of the 2 different controllers, now THAT'S innovation!
well, jupiterone, i certainly think you have a point re the graphics. unfortunately thats how games sell, and has pretty much been that way since the SNES & megadrive. i just think its hard to expect games to reinvent the wheel each release. writing games (as im sure you would know) isnt easy. they need to pay attention to other thigns than graphics, but really, the further we go, the harder it is for anyone to do anything remotely "new".
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| Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN unfortunately thats how games sell, and has pretty much been that way since the SNES & megadrive. |
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| Originally posted by Yan You might be able to even reach back further with this one. I'd go as far as to say that the Atari days were the start of it all. |
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| Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN nah, the atari didnt really have any competition. well, unless you count the very first "console" i owned, which was just a game of pong, and nothing else! |
I have to agree. The storyline and gameplay should come first, not the graphics. Having good graphics is good and quite enjoyable when lots of systems can run them. If you can run a game at max res then good on you. That's great. The major problem is when devs substitute quality for graphics. It's all about graphics now. I don't care how good something looks. If the story is shithouse or it doesn't play well then it's a bad game.
This is where games like Deus Ex, Half Life, Neverwinter Nights etc excel. It's story and gameplay first, graphics second
fuck i stabbed myself with a toothbrush and now my gum really hurts
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| Originally posted by ASFSE fuck i stabbed myself with a toothbrush and now my gum really hurts |
An extremely important detail seems to be forgotten.
As far as I see it the innovations from times past on the nintendo and sega systems were purely japanese product. The games were based on concepts that were foreign to the idea of fun as perceived in the rest of the world.
As mass marketing of video games grew more and more titles have become designed by companies in Europe and the USA. They significantly lack the crazy side that Japan offered, or for lack of a more detailled explanation, they are not standing on the sideline offering a different and fresh view of gaming.
The market has also grown into a billion dollar industry and companies are unwilling to take risks on innovative gameplay which could result in financial loses.
Lastly take into account the regionality of the gaming systems.
Xbox has the largest market share in the United States, Sony in Europe, Nintendo in Japan.
As I mentionned before the crazy aspect of japanese games mostly came through the Nintendo platform. With the regionality of the systems there is simply no space for Nintendo "crazy" to make it around the world ( well currently the only thing they have is the DS ... let's see how the Wii turns out ).
No more innovation?
Go and play Shadow of the Colossus.
Intel Rolls Out 'Quad-Core' Processors
My 141 Intel stocks rose 88 cents to 20.88, gaining 123 dollars from this one company just today.
Will gamers like these Quad-Cores?
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