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Posted by DigDeep on Nov-15-2006 16:08:

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Originally posted by AdReNaLiNa
I say it's not so much about where the suit came from but how it fits and how the woman wears it. You can work it if it's properly tailored and you accesorize it appropriately. That way, you can make it work for many different occasions and also bring out your personal style.


You are bang on.


Posted by Moral Hazard on Nov-15-2006 16:10:

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Originally posted by Skipper
I don't wear a suit enough to make it worthwhile.


I would argue that the less you wear a suit the more worthwhile it is to buy a quality garment. The higher the quality the better the longevity (as well as cut and construction). If you only wear a suit a few times a year chances are you'll have one to three tops. That few makes it more reasonable to spend more on each one and the increased quality will result in getting many years out of it.


Posted by StereoPrincess on Nov-15-2006 16:14:

I don't think your agruement with your husband is about the suits.

He just doesn't want you to go out after work and is finding ways to argue about it without saying it flat out.


Posted by Dr. DAS on Nov-15-2006 16:18:

Hot. Hot. Hot.

Actually, it deserves two t's. HOTT!

Nothing like a hot girl in a suit...with the little skirt, perhaps a slit in the side that says, "I'm hot and I know it, but I'm also a professional so stop eye-fucking me because this little slit is all the skin you're getting tonight". I could go on. But I wont.


Posted by calamarnie on Nov-15-2006 16:25:

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Originally posted by Dr. DAS
Hot. Hot. Hot.

Actually, it deserves two t's. HOTT!

Nothing like a hot girl in a suit...with the little skirt, perhaps a slit in the side that says, "I'm hot and I know it, but I'm also a professional so stop eye-fucking me because this little slit is all the skin you're getting tonight". I could go on. But I wont.



Posted by Jem_hadar on Nov-15-2006 17:12:

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Originally posted by Tordan
carrying a change of clothes seems like such a hassle. most guys don't do it so why should women?


+1, but whatever u feel like.

if u dont care, then dont bring a change.

most girls i know though almost always have a change though ive noticed.


Posted by Abercrombie on Nov-15-2006 17:29:

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Originally posted by Skipper
I love a good power suit. I actually just bought one last week because my suits from biz school are all too big. We have a huge work function next week and I can't wait to wear it. (Abercrombie...are you going to that? It's downtown! I can take the TTC home! free drinks!)


Ok regarding what I said earlier... Skipper is one of those exceptions, and looks hot in her office attire.

Regarding the big office kick-off boozefest next week, I am unfortunately going to be stuck in Buenos Aires, I'm verclempt


Posted by 7-4-7 on Nov-15-2006 18:11:

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess
I don't think your agruement with your husband is about the suits.

He just doesn't want you to go out after work and is finding ways to argue about it without saying it flat out.


booyaka.


Posted by Skipper on Nov-15-2006 18:20:

quote:
Originally posted by StereoPrincess
I don't think your agruement with your husband is about the suits.

He just doesn't want you to go out after work and is finding ways to argue about it without saying it flat out.


love you


Posted by Skipper on Nov-15-2006 18:21:

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard
I would argue that the less you wear a suit the more worthwhile it is to buy a quality garment. The higher the quality the better the longevity (as well as cut and construction). If you only wear a suit a few times a year chances are you'll have one to three tops. That few makes it more reasonable to spend more on each one and the increased quality will result in getting many years out of it.


Longevity and durability are more important factors if you wear frequently.


Posted by Moral Hazard on Nov-15-2006 18:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
Longevity and durability are more important factors if you wear frequently.


While this is true most people that wear suits everyday own more of them, say 7-10. If you drop a grand or more on each that's a lot of money so it becomes more difficult to spend as much. This gets compounded by the fact that if you wear a suit every day and you own 10 you are wearing each 26 times per year. Regardless of quality you're not likely to get more then 3 years out of a suit at that rate. This is why I say buy a good one if you rarely wear it... you'll get way more use out of it and it's easiser to splurg on two or three suits then it is ten.


Posted by StereoPrincess on Nov-15-2006 18:39:

I would say get two expensive long lasting suits that are always going to be in style, classic cuts and colours.

Then each year get ones that may be a bit fancier or with silly trends of the year that can wear themselves out and you don't have to worry about the price too much.


Posted by Skipper on Nov-15-2006 18:39:

Most people who wear suits everyday (assuming M-F) don't own 7-10 suits...they probably own 3 or 4 and switch up pants/skirts/tops. (assuming we're talking about women)

All I'm saying is that I don't see the value in dropping more than 500 bucks on a 2 pc suit when I wear it once in a blue moon. 500 bucks is a perfectly reasonable amount to spend on a suit that is well made and will last a decent amount of time.


Posted by Moral Hazard on Nov-15-2006 18:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
All I'm saying is that I don't see the value in dropping more than 500 bucks on a 2 pc suit when I wear it once in a blue moon.


Fair enough.... as usual we have a slightly different view of things. This makes me wonder whether you and I would agree on anything.


Posted by FunkyCrew on Nov-15-2006 18:42:

quote:
Originally posted by AdReNaLiNa
I say it's not so much about where the suit came from but how it fits and how the woman wears it. You can work it if it's properly tailored and you accesorize it appropriately. That way, you can make it work for many different occasions and also bring out your personal style.

So far, my favourite suits have come from Jacob and I like them but I'm kinda glad that my office is fairly casual so I don't have to wear one everyday


very very valid point

something like - it's not the clothes that makes the person look good, it's the person who makes the clothes look good

IMO, even a suit from Suzy can look awesome, given the girl wears it well, with a nice shirt and shoes


Posted by girllovingtvibe on Nov-15-2006 18:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Tordan
carrying a change of clothes seems like such a hassle. most guys don't do it so why should women?


personally I kind of like going out after work dressed in a suit....


Posted by StereoPrincess on Nov-15-2006 18:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
All I'm saying is that I don't see the value in dropping more than 500 bucks on a 2 pc suit when I wear it once in a blue moon. 500 bucks is a perfectly reasonable amount to spend on a suit that is well made and will last a decent amount of time.


unless it's like a chanel one that will still be in style in like 10 years. the question is, will it fit in ten year? lol.


Posted by FunkyCrew on Nov-15-2006 18:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
"Decent" is highly subjective.


how would you know? it's ladies' store, and do you check the tags when you see the girl wearing a suit?

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
For a last minute suit, you can get away with it...perferably if you dont have to wear the jacket for very long and if you're in favorable lighting.

I haven't yet had the chance to fork over more than $500 for a suit yet...I'm working up to that. I don't wear a suit enough to make it worthwhile.


I would take your word for it I bought a suit jacket and a plain white 3/4 sleave shirt from there for a last minute recruiting session.. but i think for a suit that i'd wear on a regular basis I'd go somewhere like Mexx or Banana Republic


Posted by Moral Hazard on Nov-15-2006 18:47:

quote:
Originally posted by FunkyCrew
how would you know? it's ladies' store, and do you check the tags when you see the girl wearing a suite?


I shop with and for my wife quite frequently thus I have some understanding of women's clothing. Regardless of the aforementioned, the term decent is inheirently subjective as it is based on individual standards. What you find to be decent would likely be considered intolerably poor quality to someone used to wearing custom tailored suits.


Posted by Skipper on Nov-15-2006 18:47:

quote:
Originally posted by StereoPrincess
unless it's like a chanel one that will still be in style in like 10 years. the question is, will it fit in ten year? lol.


If I had the money to buy a chanel suit, I'd buy one...but I have too many other more important things to spend my money on.

And no, it probably wouldn't fit...though it might provide some good motivation to keep going to the gym!


Posted by Skipper on Nov-15-2006 18:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Fair enough.... as usual we have a slightly different view of things. This makes me wonder whether you and I would agree on anything.


because you assume that the number of suits one needs is the only factor in determining whether one should buy an expensive suit.

I'm saying that there are many other factors which cause me to place a different value on having an expensive suit.

cost/opportunity analysis ftw


Posted by FunkyCrew on Nov-15-2006 18:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
I shop with and for my wife quite frequently thus I have some understanding of women's clothing. Regardless of the aforementioned, the term decent is inheirently subjective as it is based on individual standards. What you find to be decent would likely be considered intolerably poor quality to someone used to wearing custom tailored suits.


i don't think everyone can afford "custom tailored suits" especially if they r just starting a career in the corporate sector or have an average wage job with a formal attire in their office

this is not about who wears the most exclusively made suit, as we said - given that the person has good taste, even a relatively cheap suit combo can look decent... even a Chanel suit can look poor on someone who cannot color coordinate, iron or chose the right size for themselves


Posted by Moral Hazard on Nov-15-2006 19:02:

quote:
Originally posted by FunkyCrew
i don't think everyone can afford "custom tailored suits" especially if they r just starting a career in the corporate sector or have an average wage job with a formal attire in their office


I agree, however, you totally missed the point. What one deems to be decent is dependant on what one is used to, therefore, what qualifies as decent is subject to one's tastes, demands, and experience. TO PUT IT SIMPLY, THE DEFINITION OF DECENT CHANGES DEPENDING ON WHO JUDGES IT.


Posted by Moral Hazard on Nov-15-2006 19:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
because you assume that the number of suits one needs is the only factor in determining whether one should buy an expensive suit.

I'm saying that there are many other factors which cause me to place a different value on having an expensive suit.

cost/opportunity analysis ftw


Indeed there are many factors to consider and I assure you I consdier them, just to differing conclusions. We just don't think alike.


Posted by FunkyCrew on Nov-15-2006 19:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
I agree, however, you totally missed the point. What one deems to be decent is dependant on what one is used to, therefore, what qualifies as decent is subject to one's tastes, demands, and experience. TO PUT IT SIMPLY, THE DEFINITION OF DECENT CHANGES DEPENDING ON WHO JUDGES IT.


fair enough

I just thought you are pressing the point of tailored suits, not the decency argument


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