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Originally posted by RickyM What I mean is, from what I've heard, I think minimal is crap, although obviously there is the odd exception...surely there are genres that you think are mainly crap, but yet there is the odd track in that particular genre that you like?

Theres also a slight flaw in Mikey's argument, I would write off all of Happy Hardcore as shit.

A lot of misconception about what minimal is and what its not.

From people who like and from people who hate it.

Keep in mind that minimal is not a genre itself, the concept of minimalism is what music tends to achieve in the "minimal" genre

Minimalism also exists in other forms of arts.

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Originally posted by Clovis Theres also a slight flaw in Mikey's argument, I would write off all of Happy Hardcore as shit.

cant say minmal is really my cup of tea either. to tell you the truth I couldnt even name one track off the top of my head that i like in that genre.however my knowledge of that genre is somewhat limited...

does Booka Shade count as minimal.. I like Booka Shade. Its kinda blippy and spaced out sounding. More proggy than anything I rekon.

if you want to basically narrow minimal as genre use these criterias

1- Drum oriented

2- Melodies created of drum patterns

3- Short samples

4- Snares are switched to samples of voice, music, clicks, beeps, etc.

5- 99% no synths

HOWEVER, keep in mind that minimalism is a concept. This is why we know see the emergence of genres such as minimal-trance (neo-trance or nu-trance) and microhouse/ketamine house

Ok, but minimal it's not only what holden played in his last compilation. Minimal is not only trentemoller and certainly it's not new as Holden stated in one of his interviews.(Minimal as progressive with plug-inS?!?WTF?Progressive???)

Hence how about some classic minimal techno...

Maurizio- "Track-1"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF19-01-01-01.mp3

Maurizio- "track-2"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF19-01-02-01.mp3

Basic Channel- "Loop"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF129377-01-01-01.mp3

Basic Channel- "Q 1.2"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF129377-01-01-09.mp3

Fluxion- "Lark" (best minimal producer ever!IMO ofcourse)

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF34502-01-01-01.mp3

Monolake- "remoteable"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF85314-01-01-06.mp3


How about some classic "microhouse"/"click-house"/"glitch-techno". They now call this "minimal" as well. Everything is fucking minimal now,minimal this, minimal that...but then, this genre was always a minimal sub-genre i guess...

Akufen- "Moon over Plateux"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF96383-02-01-01.mp3

Akufen- "whore-house"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF86605-01-02-01.mp3

Matthew Dear- "Another"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF180713-02-02-01.mp3

Matthew Dear- "Juice"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF180713-02-01-08.mp3


Pantytec- "Candy coated conspiracy"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF95324-01-01-02.mp3

Peter Grummich- "Arcona"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF180713-02-01-07.mp3


And i bet that you haven't heard of "minimal" guys like Steve Reich, Philip Glass, John Cage, Terry Riley, John Adams...The TRUE minimal!!!Heh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuJCp9wsaj8

Dude I love Phil Glass

I never really got into minimal too heavily myself, but I don't understand how people can be really into something for awhile and then get completely tired of the entire genre. You obviously didn't like it very much to begin with. Either that, or you never really explored it.

My two kroner.

^^We already discussed that matter. YES, the original post in this thread came from an individual which has got his head deep inside his rectum.

This has now been accepted as a fact.

Thank you for sharing

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Originally posted by julien2 ^^We already discussed that matter. YES, the original post in this thread came from an individual which has got his head deep inside his rectum. This has now been accepted as a fact. Thank you for sharing

Sorry Mr. Moderator

I love Philip Glass too!!!"Koyaanisqatsi" right?A piece of art. The same goes for many of his works. My favorite minimal composer must be Steve Reich though. He has this energy expressed through dynamic intense pulsating patterns that characterise his compositions ("Reichisms")... the kind of atmosphere he sets is second to none...but yea philip glass is excellent as well i reckon!

was meant as a joke + an insult towards the thread starter

wow! never heard of any of those artists mentioned... definitely checkin them out later.
thanks

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Originally posted by PETRAN I love Philip Glass too!!!"Koyaanisqatsi" right?A piece of art. The same goes for many of his works. My favorite minimal composer must be Steve Reich though. He has this energy expressed through dynamic intense pulsating patterns that characterise his compositions ("Reichisms")... the kind of atmosphere he sets is second to none...but yea philip glass is excellent as well i reckon!

I like Reich's stuff too, what I enjoy most from Glass are his piano works and film scores.

Re: Tired of minimal

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Originally posted by Akazi anyone else tired of minimal and all that clicky, deep and wannabe meaningfull, "intellegint", pretentious music? i know i am...

I know the cosistent producers/labels out there so I know what to listen out for and know what to skip passed and i find plenty decent tunes to keep me going.

I'm more sick of people labelling everything thats produced under 130bpm as minimal, most of it's bordeline prog, I think a lot of people are to quick to bash 'minimal' as a genre (which it isn't by the way), before they even know what it really is.

bpm has nothing to do with minimalism.

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Originally posted by julien2 bpm has nothing to do with minimalism.

if you read half carefully you'll see that's exactly the point i'm making..

Minimal to me is easy to listen to. It's more of a background music!

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Originally posted by Arnozilla Minimal to me is easy to listen to. It's more of a background music!

If you listen to it as background music you're probably not hearing what makes minimal so good...

The other TA members are right, you can't just brush off a whole EDM genre/sub-genre just because you don't like a lot of the productions. Even though minimal isn't my "cup of tea" either.

wow,, all the minimalist in here are making me sick..

personally i enjoy it very much as upfront music, altough at times it seems as if people look down on you because your joining the "fad." even after big names stop playing it il def keep listening and playing it, admitedly i prefer variation in my sets and dont play pure minimal sets everything in moderation is good.



can someone define Tech-House for me? because ive always found it difficult to classify as most sites call that minimal...

what would things like:
Mason - Exceeder
Thomas Schumacher - Rotor
Marc Romboy vs Stephan Bodzin - Atlas

come under?

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Originally posted by julien2 was meant as a joke + an insult towards the thread starter

no probs man, im not offended. i didnt want to start naming names (how far i explored this music and such), i dont like that kinda stuff... i know what i know.

lauschgoldengel is fucking trance

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Originally posted by bobba lou wow,, all the minimalist in here are making me sick..

i love all the recent digs from you

No, I love it

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