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Posted by Psy-T on Nov-16-2006 20:18:

quote:
Originally posted by chesco
Point taken, however..

a promoter can only charge so much for ticket prices without the general public being put off. If he puts tiesto on for 3 hours from 12-3 (scottish licensing states clubs close at 3 ) he'll make a far greater profit off ticket sales than paying for tiesto from 10-3.


not necessarily - by having tiesto on from the very begining of the night and thus insuring a much higher attendance in the early hours + more punter rotation he's gaining a lot more from the bar than he would otherwise.


Posted by chesco on Nov-16-2006 21:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Psy-T
not necessarily - by having tiesto on from the very begining of the night and thus insuring a much higher attendance in the early hours + more punter rotation he's gaining a lot more from the bar than he would otherwise.


I'm not sure how it works in other countries but here in glasgow, the venue is rarely the one putting on the club nights. Promoters hire the venue and so have nothing to do with bar takings.

+ the fact someone of tiesto's stature would be a ticketed event, so once all tickets are sold, doors are closed regardles of how many people leave the club over the course of the evening


Posted by Dan1584 on Nov-16-2006 21:31:

I love when the opening DJ ends up being BETTER than the main act. It doesn't happen too often but sometimes it does.


Posted by Dan1584 on Nov-16-2006 21:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Psy-T
naturally, yeah... but it's not like i don't 'walk the walk'.

note: i am aware this post is even more pretentious than the one it is discussing


lol


Posted by Pinokio on Nov-16-2006 22:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Dan1584
I love when the opening DJ ends up being BETTER than the main act. It doesn't happen too often but sometimes it does.


Isn't that what people call a bad warm-up?

People say that it's not good to steal the show.

I still don't understand exactly

What if I play great music and I get the crowd crazy, I think the main DJ should be able to keep the crowd happy.

What do you think?


Posted by Tony Morello on Nov-16-2006 22:30:

it's still possible to be better without stealing the show, sort of

say the opener plays a wicked opener set, did his/her job well

and the headliner still plays well, but it's the same old stuff you've been hearing them play already, still good, but expected


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Nov-16-2006 22:31:

I saw Paolo Mojo open for Sasha on the Fundacion tour and he was fantastic. He started out nice and slow, but by the time he was done he was dropping bombs, and Sasha just took it from there and continued it all night long. The transition was nearly seamless between the end of the warmup set and the beginning of Sasha's. It was a lot dirtier than what I was expecting from Sasha as well, which makes me wonder if he took his cue from Paolo, or vice versa.


Posted by idoru on Nov-16-2006 22:47:

I've never understood how people can show up 20-30 minutes before the headlining DJ begins. I'm the guy who'll get to the club early and wait at least 30-40 minutes before the door opens. A large part of the fun about going out is getting the feel of the entire night; starting of calm, relaxed, and five or six hours later you're dancing your ass off to some "banging" tunes.

I've never seen a bad warm-up DJ. The only time I've been displeased with a flow is when the warm-up DJ's set is easily better than the headliner's and I find that that happens more often than not.


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Nov-16-2006 23:01:

Best warmup sets I have EVER heard in my 'clubbing career' in order, are from these 3 men:

Paul van Dyk
Ashley Casselle
Leo Belchetz


I've often come away having enjoyed the warmup set more than the main act. Last year at Roxy for example I thought Jerry Bonham's warmup shat all over PvD's 6 hour set.


Posted by bas on Nov-17-2006 00:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
I saw Paolo Mojo open for Sasha on the Fundacion tour and he was fantastic. He started out nice and slow, but by the time he was done he was dropping bombs, and Sasha just took it from there and continued it all night long. The transition was nearly seamless between the end of the warmup set and the beginning of Sasha's. It was a lot dirtier than what I was expecting from Sasha as well, which makes me wonder if he took his cue from Paolo, or vice versa.

Prime example of what I'm talking about. I've never actually been there for Paolo & Sasha but I have a set they did together. Paolo's set was so sick! I can only imagine how much fun it must have been waiting for Sasha to get on. When Sasha plays in LA he has Mark Tabbernar open for him, pretty much every time. Mark Tabbernar is by far the WORST dj I have ever heard...EVER. And for some reason, he's always opening...it's disgusting. Anyway, openers ftw, I love them


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Nov-17-2006 00:35:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_bas
Prime example of what I'm talking about. I've never actually been there for Paolo & Sasha but I have a set they did together. Paolo's set was so sick! I can only imagine how much fun it must have been waiting for Sasha to get on. When Sasha plays in LA he has Mark Tabbernar open for him, pretty much every time. Mark Tabbernar is by far the WORST dj I have ever heard...EVER. And for some reason, he's always opening...it's disgusting. Anyway, openers ftw, I love them



Yeah, Paolo rocked it. I'd never heard of him before actually, so it was quite a surprise how good he was. I actually had the time completely messed up for the start of the show -- so I got there like 10:00 and Paolo didn't come on til midnight. Nice thing about the club was that they had a rock band -- Dishwalla -- playing that evening, and they were better than expected as well!

By the time Sasha was on, I was exhausted, but running on pure adrenaline. I slept in til 4 the next day


Posted by Clovis on Nov-17-2006 00:36:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_bas
Prime example of what I'm talking about. I've never actually been there for Paolo & Sasha but I have a set they did together. Paolo's set was so sick! I can only imagine how much fun it must have been waiting for Sasha to get on. When Sasha plays in LA he has Mark Tabbernar open for him, pretty much every time. Mark Tabbernar is by far the WORST dj I have ever heard...EVER. And for some reason, he's always opening...it's disgusting. Anyway, openers ftw, I love them



Paolo Mojo @ Axis Boston 6-15-05 or something like that...

he plays that hale bopp mashup and leaves sasha off with discopolis, and Sash0r brings in the daft punk accapella over discopolis.


SEX!


Posted by farley on Nov-17-2006 00:38:

A few weeks back in Denver Lee Burridge essentially warmed up for his own set, playing from open to close and his progression for the first few hours was absolutely insane. I haven't heard programming like that in a long time, easily one of the best sets I've heard period let alone warm up. By the time our 'headliner' DJs usually get on (12ish) he had the crowd in the palm of his hand, and of course proceeded to throw down an absolutely rediculous set. I don't know what was more impressive though, the warm up or his peaktime set, as both were unbelievable.

He played a similar style during a few gigs in his 365 residency here in April, all of which were great and something unexpected. I'm not sure how much he plays 'warm up' time sets in his touring, but if you get a chance to see one (or him period) you won't be dissapointed.


Posted by DJ Dingel on Nov-17-2006 00:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Yeah, Paolo rocked it. I'd never heard of him before actually, so it was quite a surprise how good he was. I actually had the time completely messed up for the start of the show -- so I got there like 10:00 and Paolo didn't come on til midnight. Nice thing about the club was that they had a rock band -- Dishwalla -- playing that evening, and they were better than expected as well!

By the time Sasha was on, I was exhausted, but running on pure adrenaline. I slept in til 4 the next day


I saw Sasha at Fabric back in May 2005. We got to the club at 11pm or so, and I tried saving energy until Sasha took to the decks at 2am, but damn Paolo Mojo was playing such an excellent set that we couldn't avoid dancing. Love that in a warm up DJ!


Posted by Protege on Nov-17-2006 00:59:

quote:
Originally posted by |Thrax|
I agree with bas, openers do a great job when they draw a crowd but do their job.

some of the best openers I have seen

Bas
John Do and Justin from BasicLA
Kazell
Mark Tabbener


fixed


Posted by Lunar Phase 7 on Nov-17-2006 01:56:

It's somewhat of a mystical art...

Some just read warm up as "boring shit tunes no one headlining wants to play."

The best ones make it "we're the string intro on that track you love, only that track is a dj"

make sense or stfu lunar?


Posted by bas on Nov-17-2006 02:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7
make sense or stfu lunar?

Uhmm...neither?


Posted by winston on Nov-17-2006 15:47:

D-Rod's warm ups for Lee in New York are legendary.


Posted by Beethoven on Nov-17-2006 16:54:

I know, Warm up DJ is very important. However, the popular DJ always play during late time.


Posted by Psy-T on Nov-17-2006 17:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Beethoven
I know, Warm up DJ is very important. However, the popular DJ always play during late time.


hey, can you help me out with a tough math problem?

what's one plus one?


Posted by TOR on Nov-17-2006 17:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Psy-T
hey, can you help me out with a tough math problem?

what's one plus one?


There is no general consensus unfortunately, but 'oneone' is what I've encountered most frequently over the last few years.


Posted by GoSpeedGo! on Nov-17-2006 18:08:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
Paul van Dyk


I love his opening sets. They are better than the regular predictable stuff he plays when he�s supposed to fully rock the crowd. Always starts out really slowly, always watching crowd�s reaction and builds up... I really enjoy watching him dj.


Posted by Clovis on Nov-17-2006 18:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Beethoven
I know, Warm up DJ is very important. However, the popular DJ always play during late time.



Time for late is the popular dj happy!


Posted by basd on Nov-17-2006 18:47:

Jimmy van M is among the best of em.


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Nov-17-2006 18:48:

quote:
Originally posted by paulandrews
I love his opening sets. They are better than the regular predictable stuff he plays when he�s supposed to fully rock the crowd. Always starts out really slowly, always watching crowd�s reaction and builds up... I really enjoy watching him dj.


I know mate, they're tip top. I've seen quite a few of them over the years - particularly when I used to frequent his Vandit Nights in Berlin. My favourite set was when he warmed up for Sasha in 2003 - it was absolutley fucking magic how he progressed. Not a trance record in sight; it was awesome.


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