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Oh and a ruling in the favor of the police officer sets a clear precedence for any case going forward to allow officers to taze as they please. What the hell happen to protecting and serving us when at any instant we can get tazered?

Want to know why I say this, because in NYC there are millions of people walking around with mp3 players and their earbuds in, god forbid you don't hear the officer request your attention should that be grounds for being tazed?

think about it and the reprecussions it may have if it's not properly handled and justice isn't PROPERLY served.

I agree, there are rules atleast here in this country about giving wrong information to police, or refusing to identify yourself, but that should be handled totally differnt.

Any news on what is going to happen?
The police officers best get there due.

That video destressed me a litt,e as imagine your in that blokes position that the police are treating you bad, and once they have you in their car, on the way to the police station, they are in control, and theres no way out at the time.

I'm appauled.

This is the best part

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Tabatabainejad was also stunned with the Taser when he was already handcuffed, said Carlos Zaragoza, a third-year English and history student who witnessed the incident. "(He was) no possible danger to any of the police," Zaragoza said. "(He was) getting shocked and Tasered as he was handcuffed."

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy This is the best part

Don't believe it 'best', but definately, most shocking part.

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Originally posted by Saka Don't believe it 'best', but definately, most shocking part.

You didn't really understand the use of "best" there did you?

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Originally posted by Saka Don't believe it 'best', but definately, most shocking part.

Hence the best.

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy Sadly, most Americans in 2006 will say it's his own fault for being belligerent and not showing his ID quick enough, especially since he's an arab. If you don't believe me, check out one of the lastest Anderson Cooper 360 blogs about Cyrus Kar, an American citizen and former Navy SEAL, who was captured by Americans in Iraq while shooting a movie on Cyrus the Great. He was in a cab where they found washing machine timers (which are used for IEDs apparently), but the driver confessed to owning the timers, not Kar. More than half of the 70 people who have responded so far think it's his own fault for being captured, held and tortured for 55 day, because he was in Iraq and is of Arab descent. Truly sickening. http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/and...ribes-iraq.html

If I was him and being an ex SEAL, I'd teach the insurgents everything I know.

Patriotism can only go so far when you're fucked over big time.

And this taser thing is just not on. I'd sue UCLA.

it didnt seem like he was trying to leave when he wouldn't get up off the floor.


these types of situations are kinda stupid IMO. Yea the police (or was it university police?) handled this like trash. Carry the bastard out if he would get up or walk, but first tell him why they are taking him away. but also how hard is it for someone to should a freaking ID or say I dont have my id?



and another thing, its blurry video showing the ending of it all. I doubt any video captured the start, unless the library has cams. So we wont really know what started it all til later, and even then its based on recall, which is crap.

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Originally posted by Jarvmeister I think it's fair to say the guy brought this on himself..... to a certain extent. Clearly the tazing went too far. But if he wasn't such a prick in the first place, and lets face it, he was being a prick of monumerntal proportions, he wouldn't have gontten into a world of pain. If a figure of authority asks me to do something I do it. It's a good rule to live by and you end up leading a simpler life for it. Jarv

you're absolutely despicable.

i wish i was this guy...
he went through pain for a few minutes, but with footage like this he will be on easy street for the rest of life life.
god bless america...is there an arab johnny cochran?

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Originally posted by Psy-T you're absolutely despicable.

thats exactly what i though about him too.

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Originally posted by Psy-T you're absolutely despicable.

i would use the word pathetic, it's the new wave in the states, bend over and comply.

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Originally posted by Jarvmeister I think it's fair to say the guy brought this on himself..... to a certain extent. Clearly the tazing went too far. But if he wasn't such a prick in the first place, and lets face it, he was being a prick of monumerntal proportions, he wouldn't have gontten into a world of pain. If a figure of authority asks me to do something I do it. It's a good rule to live by and you end up leading a simpler life for it. Jarv

I would like to thank you for coming to this thread as I would like to use your mindset, however serious it is, as an example of the common mindset of the American citizen; perhaps even as the paragon for the untermensch of our time.

We are taught to fit in, taught to conform and to act appropriately for fear of social reprisal, sometimes even authoritative punishment, as seen in the video and by "innocent" onlookers who witnessed the incident firsthand. It's something indoctrinated into us(Americans? westerners? whomever) from birth - in our stories, in our "culture", in our mindset. Take Santa Clause for example - what's the whole point behind it? Somebody is always watching you, watching if you're being good or bad, watching your every move waiting to see where you fuck up and punish you for it. The panopticon.

We are brought up to live in a world where our lives are not our own and the only reason we are alive is because somebody, somewhere, has decided to not push a button and make us die. In this world, we are lead to believe that our lives are not our own and that questioning is a dangerous thing, especially when you question an authority that has grown larger than any human being.

And it's all in your head...

Until they make you say the pledge of allegiance with a fucking gun to your head.

So where does it end? Does it? What do you guys think? I see it only getting worse, and all attempts to fight back are labeled as terrorist activities, villified by an american people that have been infected with propaganda ensuring their swift death if they allow something new, something avant-gard and liberating to rid them of their mind control infection. So how is it to be stopped?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061116...cameraphones_dc

Check that out.

Rediculase

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On I would like to thank you for coming to this thread as I would like to use your mindset, however serious it is, as an example of the common mindset of the American citizen; perhaps even as the paragon for the untermensch of our time. We are taught to fit in, taught to conform and to act appropriately for fear of social reprisal, sometimes even authoritative punishment, as seen in the video and by "innocent" onlookers who witnessed the incident firsthand. It's something indoctrinated into us(Americans? westerners? whomever) from birth - in our stories, in our "culture", in our mindset. Take Santa Clause for example - what's the whole point behind it? Somebody is always watching you, watching if you're being good or bad, watching your every move waiting to see where you fuck up and punish you for it. The panopticon. We are brought up to live in a world where our lives are not our own and the only reason we are alive is because somebody, somewhere, has decided to not push a button and make us die. In this world, we are lead to believe that our lives are not our own and that questioning is a dangerous thing, especially when you question an authority that has grown larger than any human being. And it's all in your head... Until they make you say the pledge of allegiance with a fucking gun to your head. So where does it end? Does it? What do you guys think? I see it only getting worse, and all attempts to fight back are labeled as terrorist activities, villified by an american people that have been infected with propaganda ensuring their swift death if they allow something new, something avant-gard and liberating to rid them of their mind control infection. So how is it to be stopped?

aren't you just describing society? without it I am should things would be a lot worse.

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Originally posted by Akridrot His name: Mostafa Tabatabainejad [Source: http://www.nbc4.tv/news/10325914/detail.html] Does anyone even care anymore? Look at how awful authority treats us in 2006. This is an extraordinary abuse of power. I can't even express outrage, it's just... too much..

theres not need he was asked to leave..and diddnt co-operate...he was asked many times...but he wouldnt listen so....

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Originally posted by darouge11 theres not need he was asked to leave..and diddnt co-operate...he was asked many times...but he wouldnt listen so....

listen, forgetting your ID is common on campus. and usually if you tell the pretencious mini-authoritarian pricks to fuck off, they do.

this occasion was an example of a common thing getting blown up to rediculous proportions.

also, im not sure if youre aware (im not) but i imagine itd be very difficult to walk with all that electricity flowing through your body.

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Originally posted by Boomer187 aren't you just describing society? without it I am should things would be a lot worse.

r u o.ok. tyvm

nvm you ok

LOL!

no spagheyttie.

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Originally posted by Boomer187 aren't you just describing society? without it I am should things would be a lot worse.

Yes I am describing society.

Without it, we would be social with and towards one another.

But seriously, I do not know when things changed...perhaps, at the root of it all, they truly haven't. Seems logical to believe that there have always been those in power and those underneath the authority who are helpless to resist...

Seems a sad human condition to me. I can see how some people are comfortable with it though - it favours them. So when does it end? Death? Even in death, are we to be judged by some higher authority for the sins against society in our previous life?

thank god im athiest.

i see death as true peace.

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Originally posted by darouge11 theres not need he was asked to leave..and diddnt co-operate...he was asked many times...but he wouldnt listen so....

Why must a man be forced to cooperate? Do what we tell you to or else you shall be met with violence? Since when did this become ok?

whats worse is that we teach this at school.

if you dont co-operate, you will be expelled. you'll be worthless. you will pay later in life.


wtf whats hindering more potential geniouses, abortion or our educational system?

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Originally posted by wizniz thank god im athiest. i see death as true peace.

Yet we live in a world where people believe that there is a God, a being that judges us at all times and rewards us when we do what it tells us to. Is this God in an oval office? Is this God raised on a pole at every sunrise to be saluted and battered around in the wind? Despite this hazy lack of substantial consensus, people will die for their God. Not only that, they will take your life for their God; for their reward.

You two make me wanna sing John Denver songs

Good to see this kind of response to thread. Although I was hoping a certain person or two would reply. I'd be interested in what they had to say.

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